Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
Originally posted by: CptFarlow
Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: CptFarlow
Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf
CptFarlow,
One of the videos/papers posted showed that different floors fell at different speeds. The first floor collapsed slowly, and then they progressivly collapsed faster as it fell apart.
And do you really believe that fire did all of that?
Intertia and basic physics says.
Yes.
Then explain to me how these are the
only three steel-reinforced buildings in history to fall from fire. The fires in both towers had gone out well before they collapsed. When you see black smoke you know that a fire is either going out or starving for oxygen. I cannot stress it enough. The jet fuel burnt off within the first few seconds, and the rest within the first ten minutes. Are you telling me that furniture, carpeting, and office supplies was hot enough to melt steel? Steel doesn't melt until it is heated well above 2800 degrees Celsius.
What about the tapes of the firefighters radio transmissions. At one point, a firefighter found "two isolated pockets of fire," and that he "should be able to knock it down with two lines." If the fires were hot enough to melt steel and collapse a 110-story building, why was he certain he could put it out?
Remember, there was 200,000 TONS of steel in each of those building. I just don't get how somebody can really believe that fires could melt any of it.
Think about this. Who was in charge of cleaning up after the disaster? Controlled Demolition. What happened to all of the debris? By May 2002 it was shipped off to other countries and destroyed. That was ILLEGAL! In essense, they cleaned up a crime scene and destroyed ALL OF THE EVIDENCE.
Lastly, why were none of the black boxes found? They are made out of the most resilient materials know to man, yet they weren't recovered. (Despite one firefighter saying otherwise.) While the black boxes were "destroyed in the disaster," the passport of the "hijacker" was found. Do you really believe that a PAPER passport could survive that?
I coud go on and on...
I'm sure you could.
You don't have to liquify all the steel in a skyscraper to make it collapse. Long before it liquifies it becomes brittle. When it is brittle, it loses most of its strength.
Explain to me any other examples of fully fueled airliners crashing into the sides of 60+ floor buildings. These are unique events.
As for objects being destroyed, did you see any of the info on the vaults within the buildings? These were high security VAULTS. All the fragile contents were destroyed. Now, depending on where the passport was, it could have survived. Paper is really only vulnerable to fire. You can drop 100 tons on a stack of paper and it would be fine. Do the same to a black box and it probably won't.
Yes steel obviously loses strength when it is heated. But again, the fires couldn't have gotten hot enough to do that. Those fires were out long before the towers collapsed. Yes, it's in the movie, but it is the
perfect example.
How do you explain the damage to the lobby? The marble walls were cracked and windows were broken. There were bodies of dead and injured people. Did the plane do that? No. Did a fireball come down the elevator shaft and blow out the door? No. They are airtight. Even if they were punctured, I highly doubt a fireball could retain enough oxygen to fall over 80 floors and blow the windows off the lobby below. Why can you hear distinct explosions in countless eyewitness videos. Why are there explosions coming out well below the destruction wave. Why did it all collapse at once? Why was every other building being told to evacuate when people in the South tower were told that there was a fire in the North tower, and that they could go back to their desks or go home?
Why did one WTC employee hear two distinct blasts, from two distinct directions? These are vital questions that need to be answered.
As far as the passport...hold on. You need to hear what you are saying. You are telling me that a paper passport survived that massive fireball explosion and just happened to land on the streets of New York so that we could identify who did this? Well how nice of him! He even fire-proofed it and everything!:roll:
Somebody mentioned that I speak a lot of Loose Change. Yes, that was what I first saw when I began doing this research. I didn't believe it either. But when you look at all the evidence, it gets a point where I just can't deny it. This is the only explanation that makes sense.
Why would they do this? It's simple. If you had bothered to watch Loose Change, or do any research for yourself, you would have come across
Operation Northwoods. Approved by JFK, it was a campaign to destroy planes over Cuba, sink ships, attack marines, and incite riots, among other things. This is just like Hitler, burning the Reichstag building and blaming it on the communists. It has been proven that FDR knew about the attacks on Pearl Harbor. He used that to gain support for his war with Hitler.
You know that it has been done throughout history, but are you going to notice it when it happens again? To sum up motive: oil. To be a bit more complex,
Problem Reaction Solution
It works out perfectly...they blow up some buildings, we demand an action, they reaction with their "solution" of reduced liberties in exchange for protection from "terrorism." Which in reality is better well put as "scarism." What has 9/11 done? It has given this administration the chance to invade Iraq. While that specific leader isn't somebody I would want to have as my neighbor, we went their for false reasons, for a false attack on the American people. The Patriot Act, which Congress was
not allowed to read, is another example of the noose tightening around the American people.
Did you know that many of the hijackers turned out to be
alive.
And ya know...it's funny to note that
Flight 93 and
Flight 175 were just cancelled as of 09/28/2005.
That should be enough. Look, I don't really have anything to gain from believing this or any other side. I didn't even lose direct friends or family in the events of 9/11, but I care enough about those who died from that and the resulting war in Iraq to fight to find the truth.
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