Active shooter at YouTube HQ

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Kneedragger

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To be more specific... ban all guns that can kill 17 kids and injure 15 others in 6 minutes.

Yes, 2A purists are stupid and likely have small penises or fear that their penises don't measure up to better men's penises (they likely don't).

Sure, you replied to me in this thread but you are not worth repeating myself. Not even close to worth it.

"If I cared about what you have said I would have just muted you. Life's too short to worry about the dribble that comes out of your mouth from behind the internet." <--- you might be limiting yourself too much in your usage of the/your mute feature poodle.

Shooting at a range but with a gun that shoots one bullet at a time.

I'm good. Slept well last night (and every night) thanks for your unnecessary concern. While we're doling out advice might I suggest you smarten the fu*k up sweetcakes? Try it, you might like it. If you do, that right there son will be a scenario in which everyone wins. If you don't, no harm no foul you still get to be your dumb self you're so clearly attached to being. *bring it in for a really awkward unwanted hug special boy*


Lol one bullet at a time. You keep doing you..

While you might have a higher education on paper that doesn't mean shit. It shows in your classy debating skills and use of going to penis size every other sentence...

Good day clueless lady..
 
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DrunkenSano

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I'd prefer to get back to the topic at hand.

Finally, where did she get the handgun? Her family says they had no idea she owned a gun. Was it purchased legally or recently? If so, how does one pass a background check when they have a missing persons report filed??

It appears the handgun was legally owned by her:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-43645812

Nasim Aghdam, who made videos on the platform, legally owned the semi-automatic handgun used in the shooting, police chief Ed Barberini said.

Looks like another unfortunate case of someone who was fucked up in the head.
 

Darwin333

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I'd prefer to get back to the topic at hand.

Why was the family's warning not heeded? Did authorities even pass along the threat info to YouTube facilities management/security? Were they made aware of the threat?

Also, police near San Bruno found the shooter sleeping in her car 24 hours before the shooting, and saw that the license plate was flagged on a missing persons report filed by her family 3 days ago. Did they even notify the family before releasing her? Were they made aware of these she had made before releasing her?

Finally, where did she get the handgun? Her family says they had no idea she owned a gun. Was it purchased legally or recently? If so, how does one pass a background check when they have a missing persons report filed??

It seems this is as yet another shooting that would not require a gun ban to have been prevented by authorities if information had been shared...just my initial take.

Not sure if a missing persons report would make it to the database but the cops didn't really have a reason to hold her. When they questioned her she obviously wasn't missing and I'm not aware of any specific threats she made against YouTube. Being angry or having a grudge against someone or an entity isn't a crime.

This is what I found on what the family told the police, from what both the police and family are saying the police didn't have anything to hold her on:

"The father confirmed to us that the family had been having issues at home, but did not act in any way concerned about why his daughter had left. At no point during that conversation did either Aghdam's father or brother make any statements regarding the woman's potential threat to, or a possible attack on, the YouTube campus," Mountain View police said.
"Roughly one hour after our phone call to Aghdam's family, her father called us back to let us know that she made a series of vegan videos for her channel on YouTube and that the company had recently done something to her videos that had caused her to become upset."
But once again, police said, "At no point did her father or brother mention anything about potential acts of violence or a possibility of Aghdam lashing out as a result of her issues with her (YouTube) videos."
 

Darwin333

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The police didn't have to arrest her on any suspicion of a crime...based on the fact she was sleeping in a car and was subject of a missing person's report, they could have referred her to a health facility for observation. At some point they determined she was not a threat to herself or others, but I'd like to know how that determination was made and whether they had communicated at all with her family or San Diego authorities regarding the missing person's report. Also, not much probable cause needed these days to search a vehicle, especially if you're Iranian.

She is an adult so she wasn't really a missing person, her family just reported her as one. As an adult she has the right to get up and leave without telling her family shit. They don't throw you into a mental health facility for that. Hindsight is 20/20 and while we would all have loved for them to do something anything they did would have been a violation of her civil rights.
 
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Hayabusa Rider

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It's not. The news you are seeing is just a stupid media reporting a statistical abnormality caused by low sample size. London had one third the violent crime as New York City last year with a very similar population size, and will probably have similar stats this year.

EDIT: Or if you want to look at just homicides since 1990 the average number of homicides in NYC has been 1134 per year, London on the other hand has averaged only 171.


I don't think going back almost three decades is indicative of what is happening now.

Stupid Trump comments aside it seems that the Brits agree. 335 murders compared to 290 in NYC. One is far far more likely to be the victims of other serious crime in London. Check out the stats.
 

Fern

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That's still incorrect.

The right to bear arms is strictly a civil right. It never was and never will be a human right. If you want actual human rights, the UN has a handy list of them. There's some overlap in the Constitution, but the document is not strictly about human rights (otherwise, you wouldn't have things like the since-repealed prohibition amendment).
The SCOTUS and others disagree: http://www.davekopel.com/2A/LawRev/Natural-right-self-defense.pdf

Fern
 

Younigue

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Lol one bullet at a time. You keep doing you..

While you might have a higher education on paper that doesn't mean shit. It shows in your classy debating skills and use of going to penis size every other sentence...

Good day clueless lady..
You seem overly insecure pumpkin.

As for guns and penises um yeah, I will always make that argument. Even if a man's insecurity for wanting a gun isn't specifically about his penis most men still fear a woman making fun of them. It's hilarious. And still based in insecurity due to their low cavemen like intellect.

If masculinity is in doubt drop the guns and sow the field bitch. Show the world your worth not your insecurities.
 

Fern

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I'd prefer to get back to the topic at hand.

Why was the family's warning not heeded? Did authorities even pass along the threat info to YouTube facilities management/security? Were they made aware of the threat?

Also, police near San Bruno found the shooter sleeping in her car 24 hours before the shooting, and saw that the license plate was flagged on a missing persons report filed by her family 3 days ago. Did they even notify the family before releasing her? Were they made aware of these she had made before releasing her?

Finally, where did she get the handgun? Her family says they had no idea she owned a gun. Was it purchased legally or recently? If so, how does one pass a background check when they have a missing persons report filed??

It seems this is as yet another shooting that would not require a gun ban to have been prevented by authorities if information had been shared...just my initial take.
Looks like quite a process to purchase a hand gun in CA.

I'm seeing testing is required and a 10 day waiting period: https://www.wikihow.com/Buy-Firearms-in-California

I've heard LEOs on TV speaking of similar situations. Basically when a person's family etc contacts them about someone making threats the easy and obvious thing to do is check to see if they've a gun purchase lately. If they have recently purchased a gun that is a clear warning sign. I mention this because if she purchased the gun legally her application would have been on record for at least 10 days.

Edit: Just saw police denial of warning by family members. So, nm.

Fern
 
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WHAMPOM

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There is no amount of draconian penalties that will prevent a murder/suicide and no gun ban that will prevent an illegal gun sale. People quit talking out of your asses.
 

Younigue

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White male = NRA deep state terrorist.
Not a white male = Why is this a story? Stop being racists and go blame a white male for something.

got it.
No, it just equals a very specific type of white male and they want to represent the people but not all of them and not all of them well. Those specific white men often think their skin color, no matter their genetics makes them special (ed. <--- they purposely forget that part). They are exactly the last people who should own guns yet they own the majority of them.
 

Younigue

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There is no amount of draconian penalties that will prevent a murder/suicide and no gun ban that will prevent an illegal gun sale. People quit talking out of your asses.
If you stop talking out of yours.
 

jtvang125

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She is an adult so she wasn't really a missing person, her family just reported her as one. As an adult she has the right to get up and leave without telling her family shit. They don't throw you into a mental health facility for that. Hindsight is 20/20 and while we would all have loved for them to do something anything they did would have been a violation of her civil rights.

Also her family only said that "she might do something". Well that something could've just been standing outside the building protesting with a megaphone. Now if they specially said they had reason to believe she was going to hurt herself or others then yes the police has probable cause to detain her.
 

Kneedragger

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You seem overly insecure pumpkin.

As for guns and penises um yeah, I will always make that argument. Even if a man's insecurity for wanting a gun isn't specifically about his penis most men still fear a woman making fun of them. It's hilarious. And still based in insecurity due to their low cavemen like intellect.

If masculinity is in doubt drop the guns and sow the field bitch. Show the world your worth not your insecurities.

I truly feel bad for your Husband. You are one crazy one in need of help. You two shouldn't go shooting.

Someone WILL get hurt.
 
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Younigue

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I truly feel bad for your Husband. You are one crazy one in need of help. You two shouldn't go shooting.

Someone WILL get hurt.
My husband loves me and agrees with me. He thinks gun nuts are dumber than I do. Well, maybe not dumber but he thinks the majority of them are garbage people.

We'll be safe, thanks. We're both super responsible human beings. But I think your secret desire is showing. Tuck that in won't you? I hear they make special underwear for such things. ... Do you have a drag name? Since your name suggests you do things on your knees ... Knee-Knee Dragun?

Holy shit! If you can't appreciate how funny that is you a lost cause son.
 
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Younigue

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I truly feel bad for your Husband. You are one crazy one in need of help. You two shouldn't go shooting.

Someone WILL get hurt.
Oh and thanks for feeling bad for me. I give it no value but you spend your precious feelings how ever you like. I mean, I'm honored and all you spending them on me what with you not knowing me even in the slightest.

You know how I "feel" about you? I don't care about you whatsoever honey bunches of stupid. You know what I know about you? You stupid. Sad story man.
 

Puffnstuff

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Oh and thanks for feeling bad for me. I give it no value but you spend your precious feelings how ever you like. I mean, I'm honored and all you spending them on me what with you not knowing me even in the slightest.

You know how I "feel" about you? I don't care about you whatsoever honey bunches of stupid. You know what I know about you? You stupid. Sad story man.
Don't let him troll you baby girl.:D
 
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Younigue

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You are right. She hasn't thrown out any insults in this thread to anyone at all...
I'll stop with you now. You're like an open wound it's making it (only marginally) less fun for me. *air kisses*

Whatever you do, don't change. Your devotion to stupid runs deep. Withdrawal is real. Be gentler with yourself than I would be, alright kiddo?