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ActionScript vs PHP

NiKeFiDO

Diamond Member
So anyway, I haven't posted here in a while.

I usually post in the OTHER place now a days. it's double-plus fun over there (woot, 1984 reference!). However, I think you guys will appreciate it more since there are more techies over on this side of the fence. where the grass is not as green. MOW YOUR LAWN, PESKY NEIGHBORS!

Anyway, at my job, I am a php developer. theres also ActionScript developers over there, who I hang out with bc i like AS better than PHP any day of the week. and im friends with one of them.

But I digress -

I'm also bad at talking to girls, so this up coming analogy probably stems from that.

so, another semi-digression.

Anyway, I'ts my personal belief that Flash is like a hot spanish broad who plays hard to get. You have to work your ass off and try and fail again and again, but eventually you get good at it and you have something beautiful.

PHP is like the fat chick. Sure, sometimes you have to put some work into it. But that's just beating around the bush (so to speak). In the end, you're gonna get what you want.
And there's no finesse with that one. Coding in PHP is like drunken-sex with the loose fat chick. You just keep hammering away at it until something works.

But, oh, that lovely spanish chick. She even has her own entourage of followers who pick the best looking one of the day / week / month / year. She requires finesse, and skill. You can go about her in many different ways, even make her more .. uh .. efficient. She flourishes with multiple affects!

Of course maybe it's just the "better by comparison" effect. Many times they go out and play together. But we all know why fatty is there. Fatty is there for one reason and one reason only - to make the Spaniard look better, and to drive her home when she gets too wasted. That's two reasons. I don't even know how that driving analogy works.

Anway, cliffs:

1) use fertilizer.
2) laugh at my face.

 
I despise PHP. I love ECMAScript which Actionscript is based upon, and Python will be my next language.. it looks good 🙂
 
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

 
didn't mean to shit on your job. it's my job, too 😀

it's just my observation. interactive is more funnerer.
 
Originally posted by: NiKeFiDO
didn't mean to shit on your job. it's my job, too 😀

it's just my observation. interactive is more funnerer.

You aren't shitting on my job....believe me....

You are just making me think that you don't know the potential of PHP.

I push myself to learn as much as I can, and it just blows my mind how much more I have
to learn.

If I want interactive, I'll use Javascript. PHP is strictly server side.

It's a "limitation" but whatever, very easy to work around.

 
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

Wake up and smell the roses - Python, Ruby and Perl are all better programming languages than PHP. Who says you have to resort to VB.NET or C#?

Why do you think PHP is targeted to newbies who have no prior programming experience? It's the easiest to grasp. Python 10 years ago was more advanced than PHP is now.
 
Originally posted by: Woosta
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

Wake up and smell the roses - Python, Ruby and Perl are all better programming languages than PHP. Who says you have to resort to VB.NET or C#?

Why do you think PHP is targeted to newbies who have no prior programming experience? It's the easiest to grasp. Python 10 years ago was more advanced than PHP is now.

I'm a Perl programmer (my job), and I have to say that Perl's handling of complex data structures is not nearly as elegant as PHP's.
 
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

I can't think of anything I've done in PHP that I couldn't do in ASP 😉
PHP just has more built-in functions.
 
Originally posted by: Woosta
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

Wake up and smell the roses - Python, Ruby and Perl are all better programming languages than PHP. Who says you have to resort to VB.NET or C#?

Why do you think PHP is targeted to newbies who have no prior programming experience? It's the easiest to grasp. Python 10 years ago was more advanced than PHP is now.

anyone can learn syntax.

It's flow that's an issue.

And I've seen code that was done by (they had to be beginners). It's no where near the quality of the code that I've coded (and other professionals)
 
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

I can't think of anything I've done in PHP that I couldn't do in ASP 😉
PHP just has more built-in functions.

I know a guy that work that does both PHP and ASP

He keeps bitching about how horrible ASP is. There has to be a reason for it 😉

 
Have you tasted anything other than PHP? I don't think you should recommend anything if you haven't learned any other language.
 
Originally posted by: Woosta
Have you tasted anything other than PHP? I don't think you should recommend anything if you haven't learned any other language.

Yes I have.

Used C/C++, Pascal, Assembly, Visual C++, Visual Interdev, Visual Basic, Delphi, Perl, Bash, PHP, and a little bit of Ruby.

My point being though was that syntax is incredibly easy to learn in ANY language. (except maybe Assembly, that's still a nightmare!)

However, you can easily have perfect syntax but horrible flow.

PS: While there are many things I can do with PHP, if, for example, I have to write a system script, I'd probably write it in bash or perl.

For a web app, definitely PHP though
 
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Woosta
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

Wake up and smell the roses - Python, Ruby and Perl are all better programming languages than PHP. Who says you have to resort to VB.NET or C#?

Why do you think PHP is targeted to newbies who have no prior programming experience? It's the easiest to grasp. Python 10 years ago was more advanced than PHP is now.

anyone can learn syntax.

It's flow that's an issue.

And I've seen code that was done by (they had to be beginners). It's no where near the quality of the code that I've coded (and other professionals)

Way to wag that e-peen!
 
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: NiKeFiDO
didn't mean to shit on your job. it's my job, too 😀

it's just my observation. interactive is more funnerer.

You aren't shitting on my job....believe me....

You are just making me think that you don't know the potential of PHP.

I push myself to learn as much as I can, and it just blows my mind how much more I have
to learn.

If I want interactive, I'll use Javascript. PHP is strictly server side.

It's a "limitation" but whatever, very easy to work around.

i'm familiar with the feeling of "holy shit, i barely know a thing" while researching all sorts of stuff to get projects done. :thumbsup:
 
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Woosta
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
I might be a bit biased but I find there isn't much you cannot do with PHP.

If you don't like it, don't use it. Simple like that. Use something horrible like ASP if you don't like PHP 😛

Wake up and smell the roses - Python, Ruby and Perl are all better programming languages than PHP. Who says you have to resort to VB.NET or C#?

Why do you think PHP is targeted to newbies who have no prior programming experience? It's the easiest to grasp. Python 10 years ago was more advanced than PHP is now.

anyone can learn syntax.

It's flow that's an issue.

And I've seen code that was done by (they had to be beginners). It's no where near the quality of the code that I've coded (and other professionals)

Way to wag that e-peen!

and I can definitely backup my words with stuff I've worked on.
 
Originally posted by: Martin
420 is next Sunday dude.

hey, that's today!

Hyper - do you use any frameworks? I've learned code igniter (so easy to learn and use) and im moving on to Zend. Wondering what your thoughts on them were.

Also, I made some cool Flash thingies lately. Nothing too complicated. Just thought I'd put that out there. It was fun tango-ing with the spanish chick.
 
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