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ACLU Launches Nationwide Police Militarization Investigation

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monovillage said:
I'm glad this is being done, i'm glad it's being looked into and hope it gains some national media attention. It's just too bad it's being run by the ACLU with their lack of credibility.
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What is the credibility of all those who remain silent?

Even worse. Bush, Obama and Patriot Act sycophants who all support this sort of military police state? This country has a massive existential crisis on its hands.
 
Jaskalas said:
What is the credibility of all those who remain silent?

Even worse. Bush, Obama and Patriot Act sycophants who all support this sort of military police state? This country has a massive existential crisis on its hands.
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I was referring to their 40 year old 2nd Amendment stance.
 
Think the problem is that there isn't enough SWAT level crime occurring in most towns. The SWAT needs some job, so they take the high risk tasks. This doesn't mean they are high enough to warrant SWAT. I think the solution is to limit SWAT to the state police and city PDs. Small towns and such don't need them, spend the money elsewhere.
 
JTsyo said:
Think the problem is that there isn't enough SWAT level crime occurring in most towns. The SWAT needs some job, so they take the high risk tasks. This doesn't mean they are high enough to warrant SWAT. I think the solution is to limit SWAT to the state police and city PDs. Small towns and such don't need them, spend the money elsewhere.
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Yep, when you're a hammer everything looks like a nail. When you've spent a weekend a month running around a fake house with your AR after a while by God you just want to do it for real.
 
I wish the ACLU luck. There's far too much money and power involved to let silly things like the Constitution get in the way of terrorizing the populace.
 
Triumph said:
But...but...terrorism is funded by the drug trade, so they really need military grade police forces to arrest drug offenders, because of the chance that it will be a house full of heavily armed Al Qaeda.

How much "homeland security" money has been spent by the Federal Government to outfit these police forces so they can execute no-knock SWAT style raids on non-violent offenders?
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Who needs homeland security money when they can legally commit armed robbery (taking your shit at literal gunpoint) during the course of said no-knock raids on said non-violent offenders?
 
Darwin333 said:
Who needs homeland security money when they can legally commit armed robbery (taking your shit at literal gunpoint) during the course of said no-knock raids on said non-violent offenders?
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That's true...remember that material possessions can be seized with only a shred of proof that they may have been used in a crime, and not ever returned to the owner. I remember a case of some Mexicans being stopped in the upper midwest with a large amount of cash on them. There were no drugs to be found, but the "traces of cocaine" conveniently found on the money. (Meanwhile something like 80% of cash in circulation contains such traces) Since paper money has no inherent rights of its own, it does not need to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt that the money itself was used in an illegal transaction, therefore it is seized. Really quite pathetic.
 
Triumph said:
random saturday evening party
Jimmie: Hey Johnnie, nice to see you again. What are you doing these days?
Johnnie: Oh I started a new job. With the Department of Education SWAT team.
Jimmie:.........uh what?
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Johnnie: you DON'T want to be late on student loans man..

Jimmie: ..



really the Department of Education? ugh.
 
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