Ack, my XP 3200+ is a 2500+ 1.833 ghz

[mikeford]

This thread got messed up, consolidating to this other one please, http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=28&threadid=1947729&enterthread=y


Thought I found a good deal at the local computer swapmeet, Athlon XP 3200+ for $50, got it home, had some fun finding where I hid my heatsink goop, never did find my tube of artic, but did find the little free one PC Cooling includes with most purchases, carefully installed, and BLEH its showing up as a 2500+ with all the utilities I have tried including Amdcpuid. Its a barton, but telling the bios to try OC (turbo) and windows kacks 100% of the time.

I won't see the guy for a month either. Pulling it in a min and putting in the old 2600+ Sempron, just to eyeball the chip again, but very sure it said 3200 in the code.

 

[Trippytiger]

Does your board support a 400 MHz FSB? The 3200+ has a 200*2 MHz FSB and an 11x multiplier - so 11*200=2200 MHz. However, if your board is running the chip at a 333 MHz FSB, then 11*166.5=1833 MHz...

 

[myocardia]

It sounds to me like you're trying to run an XP3200 with PC2700 RAM, that won't run @ 200 Mhz. That wouldn't be the guy you bought it from's fault.

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: myocardia
It sounds to me like you're trying to run an XP3200 with PC2700 RAM, that won't run @ 200 Mhz. That wouldn't be the guy you bought it from's fault.

You can run asynchronously.

mikeford, when I got mine I took pics (better yet, I scanned it) and posted at AMD's forum. Have them verify:

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=65455&hl=

 

[mikeford]

Dunno, maybe I have cheese ram, hmmm 512M of Kingston DDR400 valueram KVR400, and 512M of looks like Frys on sale, chips are Bravo ADP328TM-50, it is running 166/333, but I was looking at the AMD CPU thing that reads the CPUID string from the chip for the Athlon XP 2500+ info.

 

[myocardia]

Originally posted by: sm8000
You can run asynchronously.

You can run asynchronously on a few of the higher-end, overclocking Socket A motherboards. Most of them, you can't. Besides, it absolutely kills performance with Skt. A.

And Google says that your "other" stick of RAM is PNY PC3200, also, so you shouldn't have any problems running @ 11x200. Oh, and with Skt. A, the motherboard is what sends the data that CPUID reads, not the processor itself. So, what motherboard do you have it in? Some motherboards simply won't do 200 Mhz fsb, others will do much higher.

 

[CKXP]

OP i remember your previous thread

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid=28&threadid=1946819

your board (ECS N2U400-A) should have no problems supporting a XP 3200, in your BIOS have you tried manually setting the FSB to 200mhz, instead of using the (turbo) option.

you might want to give these settings a try:

System performance= Expert
FSB frequency= 200mhz
CPU interface= Aggressive
Memory frequency= By SPD

 

[mikeford]

The N2U400A I actually found sold as a combo with a 3200+ (OOS now of course) on a few places, and yes it SHOULD work.

Expert and 200 etc coming up, but last time it would post, but not make it to windows, and turbo I think I had to reset the cmos to get any response back.

I also have all the latest bios afaik. First time I booted seems like it gave me a funny response in the post screen like 1100 mhz, but went too fast to be sure. Sure would be sweet if I can make this work right.

 

[mikeford]

Well here I am with it saying 3200+ now, more details providing it doesn't crash.

 

[mikeford]

OK, with Sys Perf = Expert, FSB 200, cpu aggressive, and memory by spd, I see cpu 52 C, core 1.63, with memory timing 8 4 4 3.0, posts, does long mem check 3x, but alway freezes when it starts to go to hard drive and boot windows. Also locks from time to time in setup and I have to press reset. cpu slowly climbed to 52 but hasn't wiggled from that, and this is using the AMD cooler that came with my Sempron 2600+. My IR temp meter shows cpu heatsink about 107, but the chip on the MB below CPU with just a heatsink and no fan 120, and video card hsf about 115, ambient is 74. I put in a couple Live CDs, ubuntu 5.10 freezes sometimes at the boot info screen, always as it starts to boot with halt out of memory, similar with Linspire 5.0.

I set memory to 83%, 166 and that "almost" booted.
Also set FSB to 190 and here I am.

Case is open on both sides right now (like it has been for last year or two), thinking I may look for a better HSF for cpu, and maybe put something on the MB chip.

I get the feeling I am about to learn some stuff.

 

[BassBomb]

Get new ram?

I had a 1400mhz AMD Athlon that accidentally booted at 233 or was it 166 FSB and i was like WTF why is it running at 1100 mhz?? Realized bios reset itself

 

[Trippytiger]

Originally posted by: mikeford
I also have all the latest bios afaik. First time I booted seems like it gave me a funny response in the post screen like 1100 mhz, but went too fast to be sure. Sure would be sweet if I can make this work right.

My computer would always reboot with the chip running at 1100 MHz if I screwed the BIOS settings up too much. It's kind of a 'safe mode,' with a reduced FSB speed to keep the system stable until it can be set up properly again.

 

[mikeford]

Ah thanks, so likely it tried to do 3200+ 200/200, failed and dropped to 1100 that first boot.

I was so wrong headed on the first part of this thread I started a new one, clearing the decks and working from its sort of going now at 3200+ 190/163.

 

[myocardia]

mike, try running your RAM in single-channel mode, instead of dual-channel. RAM always required more vdimm to run in dual-channel on Skt. A, it seemed. If you can't give the RAM more vdimm, just try it in single-channel, since all three of your sticks are PC3200, they should all have no problems running at 200 Mhz.

Also, what are your voltages running, and what psu are you using? A 9800 Pro with a 1.65v XP 3200 requires a bit of power. It actually sounds to me like your psu doesn't have the power that's required.

 

[mikeford]

OKIA - 450ATX is the power supply, case and PS cost me a good $25, how much better could I need?

Unfortunately a major known weakness of the ESC N2U400A is lack of voltage sensors, I think. I haven't found a temp/volt display proggy that works yet, other than one or two values I don't care about.

P/S Type ATX 2.03
Max Power 450w
Form Factor Std ATX, PS/2
Fans 1 x 80mm
Input Voltage 115~230v (Switching)
Input Current 10/5A
Input Frequency Range 60/50Hz
Output
+3.3V @ 28A, +5.5V @ 50A, +12V @ 18A, -5V @ 0.8A, -12V @ 1.0A, +5VSB @ 2.5A
+5V & +3.3V Combined Load 230w
+5V, +12V & +3.3V Combined Load 422w
Total Output 450w Max