Acer launches Nvidia HDMI 3D compatible monitor

[happy medium]

Now this is the kind of monitor I've been waiting for, and the reason I kept using my CRT for so long.
I wanted something that was gonna give me something new, not just a slightly bigger picture.

500$ is a little much, but I suspect in 6 months with some competition, they will be under 400$.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/02/09/acer-launches-nvidia-hdmi-3d-compatible-monitor/

" Acer has also cleverly embedded the IR emitter into the screen bezel which means that the problem of position the USB IR emitter that Nvidia supplies with its 3D glasses is no longer an issue. "

 

[OVerLoRDI]

I have no interest in 3d unless it gets a lot cheaper, I care more about 120hz 2d. However it is nice to see someone trying to minimize the issues with 3d.

 

[Rifter]

I have no interest in 3d unless it gets a lot cheaper, I care more about 120hz 2d. However it is nice to see someone trying to minimize the issues with 3d.

completely agree, 120hz 2d is where its at.

While ive never used 3D on a computer a few buddys have 3D TV's now and im VERY underwhelmed with them. Total 100% gimmick IMO that will be dead in 2 or 3 years and honestly im looking forward to 3d dying so the TV manufactores can put money into some feature that doesnt suck really bad.

 

[Annisman*]

I'll throw my two cents in the bucket:

120Hz at 2D is worth the extra cost of a 120Hz monitor, the ability to do 3D is just an added bonus imo. I have 3D, and though most of the time I cannot justify the fps loss to use it, in older games it adds a huge amount of realism and life. Even if you never invest in 3D, it is something that should be witnessed by all, it is not a gimmick anymore.

 

[Rifter]

I'll throw my two cents in the bucket:

120Hz at 2D is worth the extra cost of a 120Hz monitor, the ability to do 3D is just an added bonus imo. I have 3D, and though most of the time I cannot justify the fps loss to use it, in older games it adds a huge amount of realism and life. Even if you never invest in 3D, it is something that should be witnessed by all, it is not a gimmick anymore.

is it better than 3d TV's? i hear on PC it is better but have ony seen it on TV's.

 

[ViRGE]

Now this is the kind of monitor I've been waiting for, and the reason I kept using my CRT for so long.
I wanted something that was gonna give me something new, not just a slightly bigger picture.

500$ is a little much, but I suspect in 6 months with some competition, they will be under 400$.

http://www.semiaccurate.com/2011/02/09/acer-launches-nvidia-hdmi-3d-compatible-monitor/

" Acer has also cleverly embedded the IR emitter into the screen bezel which means that the problem of position the USB IR emitter that Nvidia supplies with its 3D glasses is no longer an issue. "

Perhaps I'm just being dense here, but other than the built-in IR transmitter what does this monitor do that's new? Using HDMI instead of DL-DVI isn't really a feature any more than mustard not being ketchup is a feature.

 

[Creig]

24", TN panel, 2ms response... The specs are no different than the other 120hz monitors out there with the exception of the built-in transmitter.

 

[SirPauly]

The difference with these displays is the ability to not only use 3d stereo with Dual DVI ( 3d vision full resolution gaming) but also allows the standard 1.4 HDMI, which any compatable 1.4 device can utilize 3d stereo, including, maybe, AMD products.

 

[SirPauly]

Perhaps I'm just being dense here, but other than the built-in IR transmitter what does this monitor do that's new? Using HDMI instead of DL-DVI isn't really a feature any more than mustard not being ketchup is a feature.

Actually there are differences between the DL-DVI 3d stereo/3d vision interface and HDMI 1.4. The 3d vision DL-DVI allows full resolution 3d stereo gaming, and the HDMI 1.4 Interface does not.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

I'd like to see higher quality screens from the 120hz monitors. I don't understand why I'd care about being able to use hdmi?

 

[Creig]

The difference with these displays is the ability to not only use 3d stereo with Dual DVI ( 3d vision full resolution gaming) but also allows the standard 1.4 HDMI, which any compatable 1.4 device can utilize 3d stereo, including AMD products.

Actually there are differences between the DL-DVI 3d stereo/3d vision interface and HDMI 1.4. The 3d vision DL-DVI allows full resolution 3d stereo gaming, and the HDMI 1.4 Interface does not.

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding these two statements, but it seems that you're contradicting yourself here.

HDMI 1.4 does allow for 3D at 1080P. So does DVI-D.

Now, I'm not totally up on my 120Hz monitors, but it's possible that this one is one of the first to offer HDMI 1.4 and thus that may be an additional feature over current models.

 

[OILFIELDTRASH]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding these two statements, but it seems that you're contradicting yourself here.

HDMI 1.4 does allow for 3D at 1080P. So does DVI-D.

Now, I'm not totally up on my 120Hz monitors, but it's possible that this one is one of the first to offer HDMI 1.4 and thus that may be an additional feature over current models.

Is being able to use hdmi really worth $150 over the already available acer 3d monitor? I don't think so. Being able to use hdmi on a computer monitor when every single gpu has the ability to use dual link dvi is a useless feature. Unless I'm missing something?

 

[SirPauly]

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding these two statements, but it seems that you're contradicting yourself here.

HDMI 1.4 does allow for 3D at 1080P. So does DVI-D.

Now, I'm not totally up on my 120Hz monitors, but it's possible that this one is one of the first to offer HDMI 1.4 and thus that may be an additional feature over current models.

Sure, but not full resolution 3d stereo gaming and is limited to 24hz at 1080P. This is why nVidia may of worked with display manufacturers to bring full resolution 3d stereo gaming now and for some time.

 

[Vdubchaos]

I will hold off on 120hz until it gets cheaper. I'm sorry paying double the price for 120hz vs 60hz simply doesn't make sense to me.

 

[wahdangun]

meh, did anyone know that nvdia 3d over hdmi is just 24 fps, so not realy impresive,

 

[Grooveriding]

Pass on TN, pass on small monitors, pass on heavy price-gauging on 120hz monitors, pass on unimpressive and still flawed 3D gaming.

3D has a long way to go until it is even viable and worth spending on money on, imo. And very well may not even make it to that point until something better comes along.

 

[SirPauly]

How would you address this issue? Of 3d has a long way to go?

 

[Grooveriding]

How would you address this issue? Of 3d has a long way to go?

- Crappy panels only support 3D currently; small low quality TN panels in one resolution and grossly overpriced. Buyers want selection, doesn't matter what 23" 120hz monitor you buy, they're all the same. Need more sizes, and better quality and cheaper.

- No universal 3D standard, proprietary implementations currently.

- Huge resource hog. 3d vision cuts your framerate in half.

And subjectively, having used 3dvision, it's not that impressive.

Mostly a gimmick you try out and put away, at least it was for me.

Colours are very washed out and lack the quality you get looking at a screen normally. It's also awkward and only suited to a few games whereas in others, particularly online FPS games, it's useless and hampers gameplay.

 

[SirPauly]

They're not all the same, like Planar, has different cross-talk characteristics over others.

All the so-called negatives and yet didn't even touch on cross-talk, which is the biggest negative of them all, for me. The newer models handle cross-talk a bit better than the older ones and slowly evolving and maturing. One needs to find the right balance of depth, pop-out and cross-talk tolerance.

The colors are not really washed out but there is a slight dimming based on how the glasses darken a bit -- all one has to do is add a bit of positive gamma to address this.