[Acer] Acer announces 4K Display with G-Sync

sontin

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I saw this a few minutes ago - 4K with TN display

2014-05-22 Acer Delivers World’s First 4k2k Display with NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology for Smoother and Responsive Gaming


TAIPEI, TAIWAN Acer Delivers World’s First 4k2k Display with NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ Technology for Smoother and Responsive Gaming

Editor’s Summary:

  • New Acer XB280HK monitor offers 4k2k display with NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ technology for a vivid and responsive gaming experience
  • Eliminates screen tearing and minimizes stutter and input lag
  • Flicker-less, low dimming and ComfyView technologies help reduce strain on eyes for heavy users
  • 28-inch display, part of the new XB0 line of gaming monitors
Acer announces the new Acer XB280HK gaming monitor as the world’s first 4k2k display featuring NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ technology to provide stunning, ultra-smooth, tear-free imagery and rich colors for outstanding gaming experiences. It features Acer’s flicker-less, low-dimming and ComfyView technologies that reduce strain on the eyes for smooth and comfortable extensive viewing.

Part of the new XB0 line of large gaming monitors, the Acer XB280HK is intended to be paired with enthusiast PCs for immersive, ultra high-end gaming. It features a spacious 28-inch LED backlit display with 4k2k Ultra HD (3840 x 2160 pixels) that’s four times the resolution of 1080p Full HD, and presents stunning high quality images for outstanding visual enjoyment.

With a GeForce® GTX™-powered PC, NVIDIA® G-SYNC™ display technology synchronizes the display’s refresh rates to the GPU to eliminate screen tearing and minimize display stutter and input lag to deliver smoother, faster, more breathtaking gaming experiences. Scenes appear instantly, objects look sharper and more vibrant, and gameplay is more fluid and responsive providing gamers with significant performance advantages.

The Acer XB280HK builds in several features that take into consideration prolonged usage by heavy users such as programmers, writers, and graphic designers:

  • Flicker-less technology – stable power supply eliminates screen flicker particularly beneficial for heavy users by helping to reduce eye strain.
  • Low dimming technology – adjust to as low as 15 percent brightness in low light environments to make it easy on the eyes. Standard monitor settings start at 30 percent brightness level.
  • ComfyView technology – the non-glare panel reduces reflection from light source.
The Acer XB280HK features 170/170 degree viewing angles so that brilliantly-colored images can be seen from almost every angle. DisplayPort™ v1.2 transmits video signals and four USB 3.0 ports are conveniently located at the side and bottom of the display for connecting to keyboard, mouse or mobile devices.

The Acer XB280HK monitor is made with post-consumer recycled plastic and features a distinctive red ring on the base stand. The multi-functional ErgoStand allows the screen to tilt from -5° to 35° to ensure the best viewing angle; the base rotates 120° from left or right for easy screen sharing; the panel height can be raised by up to 150 mm for optimum comfort; and the screen pivots from horizontal to vertical for more viewing perspectives.

This eco-friendly monitor features a mercury- and arsenic-free panel, LED backlighting for reduced power consumption, and is ENERGY STAR®(1) qualified.

The Acer XB280HK starts shipping in Q2 in Pan America, EMEA, Japan, and Taiwan.
http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/press/2014/77934


And the Asus 27" Display with G-Sync could be released in mid july according to their twitter account...
 

Mand

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Wow. I knew 4k G-Sync was coming, but I never expected it to be this fast.

I am assuming this is a 60 Hz max? And while TN, what is the color bit depth? 6 dithered, or 8?

Still need info, but this is some serious competition for the Swift.
 

sontin

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I've been spoiled by PVA/MVA/IPS. I won't buy another TN panel. Eh...

I dont know. I used to play games on AMVA(+) displays and they are to slow for gaming...

Biggest problem with TN is the 6bit+frc panel. Otherwise playing with 1ms response time is great.
 
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f1sherman

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I dont know. I used to play games on AMVA(+) displays and they are to slow for gaming...

Biggest problem with TN is the 6bit+frc panel. Otherwise i playing with 1ms response time is great.

Yes, dithering is terrible. And so is vertical and screen gamma dependency.
Everything else I can live with TN.

Are quality 8 bit TN any better with this?
 

Mand

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I dont know. I used to play games on AMVA(+) displays and they are to slow for gaming...

Biggest problem with TN is the 6bit+frc panel. Otherwise playing with 1ms response time is great.

The Swift from Asus is true 8-bit. I'd be very curious to know whether the Acer 4k is 6 or 8.
 

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How is it these companies manage to make press releases about their products and not put any real details in there at all. All those words amounted to:
- 4k monitor
- Gsync
- 170/170 viewing angles
- Matte screen
- DisplayPort 1.2
- LED backlighting

And its due in at most 5 weeks time. They might beat the ROG to market.

What is missing - screen tech, colour depth, gamuts supported, lots of talk of dimming but no actual figures on brightness, PWM details the power supply is not the backlight control etc etc. The really important facts always seem to be missing.
 

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No mention of refresh rate or response time, might be a reason for that. We don't have common cable that will do 120hz at 4k, so I'm sure it'll be 60hz.
 

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Well.. I know Gsync translates into a smoother overall experience, but I think with a 4K display you would be safe to disable vsync all together and not worry about tearing, how many people are going to have the hardware to break 60fps consistently @ 4K? :p
 

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Well.. I know Gsync translates into a smoother overall experience, but I think with a 4K display you would be safe to disable vsync all together and not worry about tearing, how many people are going to have the hardware to break 60fps consistently @ 4K? :p

Without vsync is going to tear horribly. The point of variable refresh is so that you don't get tearing when below 60fps.

I would never even consider this display. No way I would pay bug money for a TN display. I despise color shifting, if I am going to spend big money on a display, it better not be a downgrade from what I already have.
 

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Well.. I know Gsync translates into a smoother overall experience, but I think with a 4K display you would be safe to disable vsync all together and not worry about tearing, how many people are going to have the hardware to break 60fps consistently @ 4K? :p

Resolution has precisely zero impact on the severity of tearing.

Tearing doesn't just happen at frequencies above the max refresh rate of the display, it happens whenever the refresh rate is different from the framerate. Tearing happens at below 60 Hz, as well.
 

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Why the jump to 4k? How about 120hz IPS 1440p

You aren't going to see an IPS 120hz monitor for some time. They struggle to even switch the pixels within 16ms let alone the 8ms that is necessary. IPS just doesn't have the speed to support 120hz at this point and its not looking like it will anytime soon. Its a technology designed for colour professionals like photo and video editors, its not a gaming panel technology because while it looks good on a static image it looks blurry in motion.

Well.. I know Gsync translates into a smoother overall experience, but I think with a 4K display you would be safe to disable vsync all together and not worry about tearing, how many people are going to have the hardware to break 60fps consistently @ 4K?

I think you are under the mistaken belief that tearing doesn't happen when vsync is off and your frame rate is below the refresh of the monitor. That isn't true. Tearing will happen on every single screen regardless of the frame rate. Frame rates above the refresh will produce some screens with 2 or potentially more tear lines on there but there is always at least 1 99.9% of the time (about a 1/1080 chance it will be on the monitor boundary on a 1080p screen).
 

Capt Caveman

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You aren't going to see an IPS 120hz monitor for some time. They struggle to even switch the pixels within 16ms let alone the 8ms that is necessary. IPS just doesn't have the speed to support 120hz at this point and its not looking like it will anytime soon. Its a technology designed for colour professionals like photo and video editors, its not a gaming panel technology because while it looks good on a static image it looks blurry in motion.

I just ordered one of these - http://overlordcomputer.com/collections/27-monitors/products/tempest-x270oc-glossy
 

Madpacket

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4K with Gsync is a good idea. Unfortunately it'll be TN from the 170 degree viewing angles which is not cool.
 

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Bad buy. what you got is probably 5ms or soo. it wont be smooth even with gsync and gimmicks like that.

Acer sells cheap comps not monitors...... how can you trust the color pitch.

Look at what I got in sig. 1ms 1 billion colors I play with vsync ON and its soo smooth like UT3 mouse very god in that,, very instant.. no glare cuz shiny tv or video messes with my eyes and make me see myself in the tv... anyhow.......
 

SimianR

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Resolution has precisely zero impact on the severity of tearing.

Tearing doesn't just happen at frequencies above the max refresh rate of the display, it happens whenever the refresh rate is different from the framerate. Tearing happens at below 60 Hz, as well.

Resolution does have an impact on performance though. My point was that most systems won't be able to push 4K and frame rates well above the monitors refresh rate (60hz) where tearing would probably be most noticeable.
 

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Resolution does have an impact on performance though. My point was that most systems won't be able to push 4K and frame rates well above the monitors refresh rate (60hz) where tearing would probably be most noticeable.
still wrong. tearing happens more at high framerates but its actually LESS noticeable.
 

ViRGE

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4K with Gsync is a good idea. Unfortunately it'll be TN from the 170 degree viewing angles which is not cool.
It's almost certainly the same TN panel used in the Samsung and Dell 28" monitors, but with a G-sync capable TCON.
 

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Resolution does have an impact on performance though. My point was that most systems won't be able to push 4K and frame rates well above the monitors refresh rate (60hz) where tearing would probably be most noticeable.

The thing that makes tearing most noticeable is being at a harmonic of your refresh rate, which means your FPS divide or multiple evenly into your refresh rate. For 60hz monitors, 30, 60, 120, 180 FPS and on cause very noticeable tearing as the tearing doesn't move on the screen at those FPS.

One advantage to high FPS is that each tear is less offset from the previous part of the screen, making it blend a little more.