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I'm sorry, I just can't simply sit here and be thrilled that the defendant's life is completely destroyed. Yes, it is an awful tragedy, but destroying more lives doesn't seem to be the answer for me. There are so many things I could go on with here, but the bottom line is that this all is terrible and I feel just as badly for the driver, as I do the victim. Those of you who view this as simply black and white can do that, but know it's a bit more complicated than that. I hope for the best for all involved. and RIP our departed AT member.
 
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm sorry, I just can't simply sit here and be thrilled that the defendant's life is completely destroyed. Yes, it is an awful tragedy, but destroying more lives doesn't seem to be the answer for me. There are so many things I could go on with here, but the bottom line is that this all is terrible and I feel just as badly for the driver, as I do the victim. [/b]Those of you who view this as simply black and white can do that, but know it's a bit more complicated than that. [/b]I hope for the best for all involved. and RIP our departed AT member.
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No, it's not. Commit crime, get punished. It's very simple, and is as old as humanity itself. Frankly, if I did something this heinous, I would accept my punishment and not expect anyone to feel sorry for me.
 
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm sorry, I just can't simply sit here and be thrilled that the defendant's life is completely destroyed. Yes, it is an awful tragedy, but destroying more lives doesn't seem to be the answer for me. There are so many things I could go on with here, but the bottom line is that this all is terrible and I feel just as badly for the driver, as I do the victim. Those of you who view this as simply black and white can do that, but know it's a bit more complicated than that. I hope for the best for all involved. and RIP our departed AT member.
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I agree 100%. This was a 21 year old college student who made a terrible mistake. It cost a promising young man his life and another man will likely never fully recover. What happened was against the law and the defendent surely new that driving drunk was wrong. But still, the death of acemcmac was a mistake. Other than the empty satisfaction of revenge, a long prison term just adds to the tragedy. Maybe this kid could do something positive with his life instead. He could somehow atone for what happened through charitable works.

Stupid mistakes happen. They just don't usually end up as tragically as this one did. Under different circumstances, this could have happened to many of us-or many of our friends/family.
 
I wonder what the ages are of anantech members who are forgiving verse those who are unsympathetic. Do you think older members who have seen a little more of the world are less inclined to ruin another life over this terrible situation. I'm sorry to get off topic and just wrote what I was thinking.

Peace to acemcmac and his family.
 
Originally posted by: JoeyM

I agree 100%. This was a 21 year old college student who made a terrible mistake. It cost a promising young man his life and another man will likely never fully recover. What happened was against the law and the defendent surely new that driving drunk was wrong. But still, the death of acemcmac was a mistake. Other than the empty satisfaction of revenge, a long prison term just adds to the tragedy. Maybe this kid could do something positive with his life instead. He could somehow atone for what happened through charitable works.

Stupid mistakes happen. They just don't usually end up as tragically as this one did. Under different circumstances, this could have happened to many of us-or many of our friends/family.
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Driving drunk isnt a stupid mistake. Its a stupid choice. A choice was made by an individual and unfortunately for him and even more so for the other person it was a piss poor choice.
 
Originally posted by: JoeyM
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm sorry, I just can't simply sit here and be thrilled that the defendant's life is completely destroyed. Yes, it is an awful tragedy, but destroying more lives doesn't seem to be the answer for me. There are so many things I could go on with here, but the bottom line is that this all is terrible and I feel just as badly for the driver, as I do the victim. Those of you who view this as simply black and white can do that, but know it's a bit more complicated than that. I hope for the best for all involved. and RIP our departed AT member.
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I agree 100%. This was a 21 year old college student who made a terrible mistake. It cost a promising young man his life and another man will likely never fully recover. What happened was against the law and the defendent surely new that driving drunk was wrong. But still, the death of acemcmac was a mistake. Other than the empty satisfaction of revenge, a long prison term just adds to the tragedy. Maybe this kid could do something positive with his life instead. He could somehow atone for what happened through charitable works.

Stupid mistakes happen. They just don't usually end up as tragically as this one did. Under different circumstances, this could have happened to many of us-or many of our friends/family.
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I agree. This was probably an otherwise decent human being that made a stupid mistake. This "justice" is about revenge, not rehabilitation. Someone who was about to lead a productive life, doing something that most Americans have probably gotten away with before, is now probably destined for a life of poverty and crime after he leaves prison, and will be a drag on the system. I dont fault the family of the victims at all, because I would probably want to kill the son of a bitch to, but sometimes cooler heads should prevail in situations like this. You dont get second chances in America when it comes to felonies. Once you are branded a felon, you are ruined for life, because thats how our "payback" style of justice works.
 
I had a friend who did the same thing roughly 10 years back, however both victims died. He served 8 years got out and continues to drink, not sure if he drives anymore. I think it should be mandatory if you take a life drinking and driving that when you get out of jail, you spend X amt. of years educating high school students about the dangers of drinking and driving. This imo, is the only way for their to be some justice for the victims and their families.
 
Originally posted by: JoeyM
I wonder what the ages are of anantech members who are forgiving verse those who are unsympathetic. Do you think older members who have seen a little more of the world are less inclined to ruin another life over this terrible situation. I'm sorry to get off topic and just wrote what I was thinking.

Peace to acemcmac and his family.
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JoeyM, there can be both justice (punishment) and forgiveness. They are not mutually exclusive.

Just because I forgive someone, doesn't mean they don't have to pay for what they did.

Another way to put it is: forgiveness != pardon.

Modern America seems to have lost comprehension of this fact.
 
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
Originally posted by: JoeyM
Originally posted by: TheVrolok
I'm sorry, I just can't simply sit here and be thrilled that the defendant's life is completely destroyed. Yes, it is an awful tragedy, but destroying more lives doesn't seem to be the answer for me. There are so many things I could go on with here, but the bottom line is that this all is terrible and I feel just as badly for the driver, as I do the victim. Those of you who view this as simply black and white can do that, but know it's a bit more complicated than that. I hope for the best for all involved. and RIP our departed AT member.
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I agree 100%. This was a 21 year old college student who made a terrible mistake. It cost a promising young man his life and another man will likely never fully recover. What happened was against the law and the defendent surely new that driving drunk was wrong. But still, the death of acemcmac was a mistake. Other than the empty satisfaction of revenge, a long prison term just adds to the tragedy. Maybe this kid could do something positive with his life instead. He could somehow atone for what happened through charitable works.

Stupid mistakes happen. They just don't usually end up as tragically as this one did. Under different circumstances, this could have happened to many of us-or many of our friends/family.
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I agree. This was probably an otherwise decent human being that made a stupid mistake. This "justice" is about revenge, not rehabilitation. Someone who was about to lead a productive life, doing something that most Americans have probably gotten away with before, is now probably destined for a life of poverty and crime after he leaves prison, and will be a drag on the system. I dont fault the family of the victims at all, because I would probably want to kill the son of a bitch to, but sometimes cooler heads should prevail in situations like this. You dont get second chances in America when it comes to felonies. Once you are branded a felon, you are ruined for life, because thats how our "payback" style of justice works.
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No, this is whats know as a fucking deterrant. If you know that nothing will happen if you drink and drive then you are going to do it. However there are lots of people that when they read this will think "wow if i drink and drive im gonna be fucked" they may not be so apt to drink and drive
 
It's been one year as of yesterday... 🙁
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Originally posted by: RadiclDreamer
No, this is whats know as a fucking deterrant. If you know that nothing will happen if you drink and drive then you are going to do it. However there are lots of people that when they read this will think "wow if i drink and drive im gonna be fucked" they may not be so apt to drink and drive
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It's kind of sad and pathetic too that they don't think, "If I'm an ass and drive while I'm drunk, I could wind up killing another person."
No, apparently that is not enough of a deterrent for us civilized, compassionate beings.

 
Originally posted by: Brainonska511
It's been one year as of yesterday... 🙁
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And every day I've awakened and have seen the sun rising, I'm reminded of him and this event.
R.I.P. acemcmac, I'm sure you never dreamed that you would be remembered in such a fashion.

BW, I'm 50 and I think the drunk driver dude should sit in jail awhile. Not sure how long exactly, but awhile should do.
 
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
I agree. This was probably an otherwise decent human being that made a stupid mistake. This "justice" is about revenge, not rehabilitation. Someone who was about to lead a productive life, doing something that most Americans have probably gotten away with before, is now probably destined for a life of poverty and crime after he leaves prison, and will be a drag on the system. I dont fault the family of the victims at all, because I would probably want to kill the son of a bitch to, but sometimes cooler heads should prevail in situations like this. You dont get second chances in America when it comes to felonies. Once you are branded a felon, you are ruined for life, because thats how our "payback" style of justice works.
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You and your band of merry men have a warped sense of reality. What would you prefer? Give him a second chance? So then this goes on the news and every person who drinks and drives realizes you get a "get out of jail free" card everytime you kill a person and critically injure another? He should be lucky we don't have an eye for an eye system, or someone would be running him over for punishment. From my standpoint he is getting off lightly.

If you think it is a tragedy that we are losing another possibly useful person from society you should place your blame on that individual, the choices he made in his life, and drug awareness. NOT on his fair trial.
 
I hope He gets 7 to 10 years. Less than 7 would not be much of a deterrent, more than 10 makes it more difficult for him to re-adjust after his release.
 
Originally posted by: Skacer
Originally posted by: Mxylplyx
I agree. This was probably an otherwise decent human being that made a stupid mistake. This "justice" is about revenge, not rehabilitation. Someone who was about to lead a productive life, doing something that most Americans have probably gotten away with before, is now probably destined for a life of poverty and crime after he leaves prison, and will be a drag on the system. I dont fault the family of the victims at all, because I would probably want to kill the son of a bitch to, but sometimes cooler heads should prevail in situations like this. You dont get second chances in America when it comes to felonies. Once you are branded a felon, you are ruined for life, because thats how our "payback" style of justice works.
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You and your band of merry men have a warped sense of reality. What would you prefer? Give him a second chance? So then this goes on the news and every person who drinks and drives realizes you get a "get out of jail free" card everytime you kill a person and critically injure another? He should be lucky we don't have an eye for an eye system, or someone would be running him over for punishment. From my standpoint he is getting off lightly.

If you think it is a tragedy that we are losing another possibly useful person from society you should place your blame on that individual, the choices he made in his life, and drug awareness. NOT on his fair trial.
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I didnt see a coherent argument anywhere in that response.
 
At some point in that night (or day, w/e), the driver made the mental CHOICE (not mistake):

"Ok. I'm going to start drinking. I accept any punishment that is handed down to me as a result of whatever actions I undergo from this point onward."

Every single person effectively says that to themselves when they begin to drink.
 
Originally posted by: Skacer
You and your band of merry men have a warped sense of reality. What would you prefer? Give him a second chance? So then this goes on the news and every person who drinks and drives realizes you get a "get out of jail free" card everytime you kill a person and critically injure another? He should be lucky we don't have an eye for an eye system, or someone would be running him over for punishment. From my standpoint he is getting off lightly.

If you think it is a tragedy that we are losing another possibly useful person from society you should place your blame on that individual, the choices he made in his life, and drug awareness. NOT on his fair trial.
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My biggest problem is that apparently the pedestrians were drinking as well.

This guy was totally off his rocker drunk though and should have not been in anyway behind the wheel.

I am a big supporter against DUI/DWI law the way it stands now. 0.08 is way too low of a figure and the breath test is flawed by design.

Most people here are posting off heartstrings and not law/reality though. It sucks that one of our members died like this.
 
Posted on October 26, 2007 12:59 AM
Hip-hop concert to benefit student

An up-and-coming hip-hop artist, a fraternity, a family and a crowd of students will gather together for an altruistic cause tonight.

The Delta Upsilon (DU) fraternity, 229 Locust Lane, will hold a benefit concert at 9 p.m. for fellow fraternity brother Aaron Stidd in an effort to raise money for the Stidd family and to spread awareness about the dangers of drunk driving.

This is one of the several efforts DU and the Penn State community has made to support Stidd, 21, who was hit and critically injured by a drunk driver last October while crossing Atherton Street at Beaver Avenue.

"I knew [the fraternity members] were going to do something," Connie Stidd, Aaron's mother, said. "It sounds really nice, and I'm really grateful."

The concert, which is hosted by DU and Nittany Booking, will feature Pittsburgh rapper Wiz Khalifa, who signed to Warner Brothers Records in June and whose national popularity is steadily building by word of mouth.

"We wanted to get someone with a solid fan base, not someone we had to do a lot of promotion for," said Will Dzombak (sophomore-music management), co-founder of Nittany Booking.

Though only 19 years old, Khalifa has watched as his first major label single "Youngin' On His Grind" permeated the mainstream. Rolling Stone magazine honored him last December as a "New Artist to Watch" and he won "Best Male Artist" and "Lyricist of the Year" at the 1st Annual Pittsburgh Hip-Hop awards.

Khalifa's payment for the performance is being donated to the cause, in addition to all proceeds from attendees.

If the order of the billing on the concert's poster is any indication, the star of the show is Stidd.

"Aaron Stidd loves rap music, so we figured we would get a decently big name, instead of a punk band Stidd doesn't even like," Dzombak said. "We wanted to do something he can enjoy and others can enjoy."

Connie Stidd said she is not yet sure if Aaron will be attending the actual concert because he still tires easily and the late night might be too much, but said they plan to stop by and say 'hi' to his fraternity brothers earlier in the day.

DU social chair Larry Chertik (sophomore-marketing) said the concert for Stidd is particularly timely, as the trial for the accident concluded Sept. 26. The driver, Anthony Torsell, 21, was convicted of homicide while driving under the influence, aggravated assault while driving under the influence and three counts of driving under the influence. He fatally struck visitor Richard Smith, 21, and critically injured Stidd.

Torsell's sentencing date will be Nov. 7 at the Centre County Courthouse in Bellefonte.
"The goal of this concert is to make a huge profit for Stidd and for everyone to have a good time while doing it," Chertik said. "It offers more to those who are donating. It benefits them and it benefits Stidd."

Similar to the StiddStrong bracelets, T-shirts and other paraphernalia, the concert serves as an example of how students have banded together to support and empathize with a peer.

"He's one of the nicest, coolest kids. He was one of the reasons I considered pledging and kept pledging," Chertik said. "He's a great person to be around, always smiling."
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http://www.collegian.psu.edu/a...t_to_benefit_stud.aspx
 
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