Accused of cheating

boi

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I've been accused by my professor of cheating, but I didn't! The midterm was setup like this: There would be 5 questions on the test, the professor posts 50 questions on his site, of these 50 questions, he's going to pick 5 questions out of the 50 to put on the midterm. The solutions to the 50 questions were posted with the questions so I studied them like mad because I thought everyone else in the class would do the same. It turns out that did very well, way above the average, because i memorized the answers. I got the email saying that I brought the solutions to the test and I have to see the professor later. What should i do?
 

notfred

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Tell him you memorized the answers. Tell yhim yough thought that seemed like a good idea since he gave them to you before the test. If he doesn't beleive you, recite one of them from memory in his office.
 

JinLien

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He have to prove it and show him that you can recites the other solutions while standing infront of him.
 

boi

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Originally posted by: Goosemaster
WTF...that isn't a test...that a forced regurgitation :|


why you lucky ****** **** :|

Yea I know, I don't know why he setup this test like that.
 

gsethi

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if you studied that hard, you should know all the answers. Again, study them (as if you have another exam). Go to the Prof, tell him to ask you any question and recite it verbally in-front of him.

If this is your final exam with that prof, after he has cleared you and given you the score (and grade for the exam), express your dissatisfaction to him and to the department. Dont do this before you know your score/grade though.

Good Luck.

I had a similar issue with one of our final exams. Exam was open book open notes. We went to the prof website for previous quarter (took some guess work). Prof had a sample final exam with solutions on the previous quarters site. Since it was open book/open notes exam, we (me and our friends) printed out the solutions, just in case.

On the final exam, there were about 2 (very hard) questions that were exactly the same as from that previous quarters sample exam. Since we had the solutions, we just copied it down. He reported us to the SJA for cheating...we just showed the solutions to SJA the prof website for previous quarter and SJA let us go. We argued that if the prof was so concerned about this, he should have removed his website for the previous quarter. (and this was for a CS class...not like the prof didnt know about computers)

The crappiest part was that professor left the classroom in mid-exam and there was no one in the room while the class was taking the exam. The entire class was cheating on the exam with each other (it was a very hard final exam as compared to his mid-term exam)

Some Profs are just like that....they will think that students cannot solve a question that they put, and when couple of students solve those questions, they will think that the students cheated.
 

blahblah99

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Originally posted by: notfred
Tell him you memorized the answers. Tell yhim yough thought that seemed like a good idea since he gave them to you before the test. If he doesn't beleive you, recite one of them from memory in his office.

^^^ what he said.

Ask him to ask you ANY question on the test, and you will recite the answer.
 

zanieladie

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Originally posted by: blahblah99
Originally posted by: notfred
Tell him you memorized the answers. Tell yhim yough thought that seemed like a good idea since he gave them to you before the test. If he doesn't beleive you, recite one of them from memory in his office.

^^^ what he said.

Ask him to ask you ANY question on the test, and you will recite the answer.


:thumbsup:
 

jagec

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Originally posted by: blahblah99
Originally posted by: notfred
Tell him you memorized the answers. Tell yhim yough thought that seemed like a good idea since he gave them to you before the test. If he doesn't beleive you, recite one of them from memory in his office.

^^^ what he said.

Ask him to ask you ANY question on the test, and you will recite the answer.

That's not a good idea, because chances are the OP doesn't have all 50 answers perfectly memorized. Instead, pick a couple answers that you DO know, and recite those.
 

McGyver

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it's so easy to cheat in college. you can practically bring your notes in. prof's & ta's usually tell u to bring ur own legal pads, just write down ur notes in them. they won't and can't check them all.
 

gsethi

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Originally posted by: McGyver
it's so easy to cheat in college. you can practically bring your notes in. prof's & ta's usually tell u to bring ur own legal pads, just write down ur notes in them. they won't and can't check them all.

LOL...and if you get caught, then you get a 0 on that exam and possible suspension. I see where you are headed ;)

btw, most of the exams that I have had in CS classes were open book/open notes :p You just cannot cheat there...you have to actually show your work

 

screw3d

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I don't see why you even have to recite it again just because he accused you because the burden of proof is his, not yours.
 

Jeff7

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That sucks. So you're basically being punished for having good memory. Nice.

I was accused of plagiarism at a community college for a research paper I did. I told the teacher, "Fine, here are my sources, you're welcome to read them and tell me exactly where you think I copied from. You'll not find anything though, because I didn't copy anything."
Wound up with an A on the paper, and no apology from the teacher.



Hopefully this turns out ok too.

That is funny. He posts the answers for you to study, then accuses you of wrongdoing for studying the answers.
 

sundev

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The professor is a complete moron for thinking you cheated on an exam that HE GAVE THE ANSWERS TO BEFOREHAND.

Give me his email address and I will tell him that (btw this will likely not work in your favor).
 

Injury

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So wait... you did good on a test and he makes the assumption that you obviously did something wrong? What are we missing?

If this is all true without you hiding something, don't tell him "prove it"... because that's like saying "Yeah I did it, but you don't have evidence."

Tell him you studied... like people are supposed to... and that it worked.

Either way, file a complaint with his department after you have your final grade.
 

UncleWai

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Lazy professors like him should suck a cock. He can't prove anything, go complain to the dean.
 

gsethi

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Originally posted by: UncleWai
Lazy professors like him should suck a cock. He can't prove anything, go complain to the dean.

Dont do that before you have your grade though. Also, when you are accused of cheating, the burden is on you to proof yourself innocent (I know that this is wrong but this is how the Profs/teachers think).

You can appeal but obviously, the Prof words will have more weight than yours. So whatever you say/do, think wisely.

I would say, go and talk with your prof calmly. Tell him you studied hard, and ask him to ask you few questions. (do remind him that you may not know answers for all 50 questions though)

if he still insists, let him first complain at the deans office or the student affairs office and then handle it with them.

Again, Dont mess with him before you have your grade. Also, where were you seating during the exam - towards the front or back ? Were you seated near the prof/TA during the exam ? If you were, you might want to bring this up. (How can you cheat and not get caught if the prof/TA is near you :confused: )