Accusations of US Doping coverup by US doctors!!

Pennstate

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[l]http://espn.go.com/oly/summer00/news/2000/0930/791937.html[/l]

[sarcasm]No it can't be.[/sarcasm] I thought only foreign athletes use it to gain the edge.
 

Czar

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If one athlete uses it then there is allways a chance that everyone else uses it to.

 

DABANSHEE

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It makes me sick, they take a gold medal away from a 15 year old Romanian athlete, because she had taken a cold tablet her doctor had given to her by mistake that contain a drug that was on the nono list, even though the it would have had no effect on her performance (one would need 20 Sudafeds to get enough Psedoephedrine in the system to get any sort off effect, but you'd get sick in the process), just so they look like the're doing their job. But they let the USOC get away with hidding the results on 18 different American Athletes, because they don't want to upset their billion dollar NBC Applecart, even though its already toppling over.
 

Mark R

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I've suspected this for years. Unfortuanetly, my sources aren't first hand.

I have a friend who is a senior medical biochemist, who has colleagues who have worked in sports drug testing laboratories, although he hasn't done so himself.

He tells me, that nearly 1 in 4 samples that are tested in the lab prove to be positive - admittedly he doesn't know how many of those samples are 'test' samples which are given to ensure the lab is up to scratch, but he does not believe that they can account for all, or even most, of the positives.
 

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Actually, among the swimmers in Sydney there has been talks about American swimmers being doped. Of course, it's totally unofficial and nobody has been caught, but some of the results by American swimmers has just been too good to be true.
For instance the gold medalist in the womens 200 m butterfly, Misty Hyman(spelling?), has lowered her personal record with about 4 seconds in only a couple of months just before the Olympic Games. It would normally take a couple of years to do that...
 

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PennState, and others:

All right, all right. Will the class please chill? First of all, most of the "coverups" were of asthma and cold remedies. Track and Field had the most, followed by cycling. Most of the kids had waivers for their asthma medications. For out-of-competition testing, ephedrine or pseudoephephrine, found in common cold remedies, won't and shouldn't get an athlete punished by most federations. That's a lot of it. A few athletes were found with evidence of steroids, a big no-no, but the number is relatively small.

The truth is that we have no effective test for Human Growth Hormone (HGH0, and poor testing for Erythropoitin (EPO). An athlete can stop taking EPO a week before his competition and it will not be detected, though the effect will still be very real. (EPO raises the number of red blood cells that can carry oxygen. Altitude training gives the same effect, but legally.)

Also, all the athletes have the right to appeal any positive drug test, so results are often delayed under current privacy procedures.

The real problem is that the federations, like U.S.A. Track and Field, protect the appearance money of their athletes by delaying the announcement of positive tests. Guys like CJ Hunter can go to Oslo, despite testing positive, while their appeals are pending, and pick up $15,000 (in this case). He also gets to go as his wife's coach, which makes Marion Jones very happy. If their star is happy, USTF is happy. In my view, all athletes should sign a confidentiality waiver saying in essence that any drug test result will be made public immediately. Otherwise, the whole system is compromised.

Also, USATF has a contract with a laboratory to do its drug testing. They do not encourage the laboratory to produce results quickly. Many suspect the laboratory is encouraged to take the longest possible time so the athletes can enjoy their careers longer. Obviously, this protects the athlete, but not the integrity of sports.

Misty Hyman was a world class swimmer as a young girl and developed a dolphin kick on your side technique for starts and turns that made her the best in the world at about age 15. She has always been very fast going out the first half of a race, but usually died. At the Olympics she held on just a little longer than usual and managed to squeeze out a victory. Was it EPO? Was it altitude training? Was it her training, still young age (20), and natural ability? I choose the latter because we have no evidence she cheated. Until we do, we must give the athletes the benefit of the doubt.

Strong allegations of drug use have been made about "Inky" deBruijn, Dara Torres, and Amy Van Dyken. We have no evidence they took drugs.

All of the drug allegations have been driven by jingoism and jealousy. None of them have a foundation in test results.

All of the world's various governing bodies have done a truly abysmal job policing drugs in the various sports. Until all drug testing is turned over to an independent international body, and the quality of drug testing improves, we won't know for sure who is clean and who is dirty.

This whole affair makes me very sad, but it has been brewing for 40 years and the chickens have finally come home to roost. My prayer is that amateur sports can be rescued, but I am as cynical as the rest of you about the likelihood of that happening.