According to Political site "The Hill" some in the Democratic Party looking to Primary Ilhan Omar

Should the Democratic Party Primary Ilhan Omar

  • Yes

    Votes: 8 21.1%
  • No

    Votes: 14 36.8%
  • Don't really care

    Votes: 15 39.5%
  • stop bashing the Democratic Party!!!

    Votes: 1 2.6%

  • Total voters
    38
  • Poll closed .

blankslate

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The Hill story on Democratic party members looking to primary Ilhan Omar
Some Minnesota Democrats, aghast at controversial comments made by Rep. Ilhan Omar (D), are taking initial steps to recruit a candidate to run against her in next year’s primary election, seeking to buck history in one of the nation’s most progressive legislative districts.

Several party leaders said they have had discussions about finding a candidate to take on Omar, just two months into her first term in Congress.
A part of the challenge in fielding a competitor, Minnesota Democrats said, is that Omar is likely to win the endorsement of the state DFL, which comes with access to voter lists and data that unendorsed candidates do not receive.

“The DFL endorsement is a huge advantage,” said Corey Day, a former executive director of the Minnesota DFL. “The real fight is usually for the DFL endorsement or to block it.”

I'll just ask what people think about this....
and try a poll
and the 4th choice is really just a facetious dig for one person who shall remain unnamed....


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DrDoug

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Not only no but I also wrote my Rep. (DeFazio) and told him not to take the bait and go after her. She has been going after the cozy relationships between right wing Jewish groups and conservatives.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Contrary to what one Democratic Rep. said, our relationship with Israel CAN be questioned.
 

Jhhnn

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The Israel lobby is def giving her the stink eye. It'll be interesting to see who, if anybody, takes their money.
 
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UglyCasanova

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I don’t know much about her other than she wears a hijab, friends with AOC, and made that tweet that got her in trouble. I welcome people openly calling out the US relationship with Israel and it wasn’t worded diplomatically but oh well. Questioning the US/Israel relationship doesn’t mean one is an anti Semite.
 

brandonbull

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I wish she would. It would be another Democratic candidate that is joining the re-elect Trump campaign.
 
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Jaskalas

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I cannot say that I have an informed opinion on her.
As such I am viewing the criticism with skepticism.
If someone wants to challenge a junior Congresswomen, that's up to their voters.
 

woolfe9998

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Not only no but I also wrote my Rep. (DeFazio) and told him not to take the bait and go after her. She has been going after the cozy relationships between right wing Jewish groups and conservatives.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that. Contrary to what one Democratic Rep. said, our relationship with Israel CAN be questioned.

Questioning our relationship with Israel is an entirely different thing than questioning the loyalty of your fellow Americans.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Questioning our relationship with Israel is an entirely different thing than questioning the loyalty of your fellow Americans.

-Why? Half the country is questioning the loyalties of the other half of the country at the moment. Are they loyal to Russia, Immigrants, Israel, Saudi, peanut butter or jelly, etc...

It's not new, it's not unique, but it is fishy that the response has been so disproportionately severe...
 

woolfe9998

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-Why? Half the country is questioning the loyalties of the other half of the country at the moment. Are they loyal to Russia, Immigrants, Israel, Saudi, peanut butter or jelly, etc...

It's not new, it's not unique, but it is fishy that the response has been so disproportionately severe...

Omar uses multiple anti-Semitic tropes in these two comments. One is the notion of dual loyalties. Historically Jews have been accused of being loyal to some sort of phantom international Jewish organization, then, after 1948, to Israel. This particular trope was an important underpinning of the Stab in the Back myth whereby the Jews supposedly betrayed Germany, causing them to lose WWI.

We've been hearing for a long time from the left about this racist "dog whistle" whereby people are saying racist things without the most explicit slurs or other formulations. Anti-Semitism can just as easily be a dog whistle. I'm well aware that she didn't use the word Jews. But she used multiple common anti-Semitic tropes, and she made another offensive remark after apologizing for the first, suggesting her apology was insincere.

No one seems to have noticed that neither comment contains one single word of criticism of Israeli policy. These comments were directed at Americans who support Israel. Which is another reason this idea that someone is conflating mere criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism is totally off point and a massive straw man.

I'm afraid the left is borderline tone deaf about anti-Semitism.
 
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DrDoug

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Omar uses multiple anti-Semitic tropes in these two comments. One is the notion of dual loyalties. Historically Jews have been accused of being loyal to some sort of phantom international Jewish organization, then, after 1948, to Israel. This particular trope was an important underpinning of the Stab in the Back myth whereby the Jews supposedly betrayed Germany, causing them to lose WWI.

We've been hearing for a long time from the left about this racist "dog whistle" whereby people are saying racist things without the most explicit slurs or other formulations. Anti-Semitism can just as easily be a dog whistle. I'm well aware that she didn't use the word Jews. But she used multiple common anti-Semitic tropes, and she made another offensive remark after apologizing for the first, suggesting her apology was insincere.

No one seems to have noticed that neither comment contains one single word of criticism of Israeli policy. These comments were directed at Americans who support Israel. Which is another reason this idea that someone is conflating mere criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism is totally off point and a massive straw man.

I'm afraid the left is borderline tone deaf about anti-Semitism.

What is your view of conservative Christian groups that only support Israel because they need the world to fall apart so their Messiah will return?
 

FirNaTine

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Yes. But not necessarily because of something said or did.

No one should get a pass, just because they won the last general election. It doesn't automatically mean they are the best candidate their party can put forward the next time.

I also want voters paying attention to the actual people they send to Congress, not just the letter next to their name.

Luckily I am on vacation and not subject to drug testing for another week or so, and I can continue my hope of getting the best representatives we can, and not just the ones "the party" thinks we should.
 
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GodisanAtheist

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Omar uses multiple anti-Semitic tropes in these two comments. One is the notion of dual loyalties. Historically Jews have been accused of being loyal to some sort of phantom international Jewish organization, then, after 1948, to Israel. This particular trope was an important underpinning of the Stab in the Back myth whereby the Jews supposedly betrayed Germany, causing them to lose WWI.

We've been hearing for a long time from the left about this racist "dog whistle" whereby people are saying racist things without the most explicit slurs or other formulations. Anti-Semitism can just as easily be a dog whistle. I'm well aware that she didn't use the word Jews. But she used multiple common anti-Semitic tropes, and she made another offensive remark after apologizing for the first, suggesting her apology was insincere.

No one seems to have noticed that neither comment contains one single word of criticism of Israeli policy. These comments were directed at Americans who support Israel. Which is another reason this idea that someone is conflating mere criticism of Israel with anti-Semitism is totally off point and a massive straw man.

I'm afraid the left is borderline tone deaf about anti-Semitism.

-Issue with that reasoning is that Jews have been accused of damn near everything across time (being too rich, being too poor, being too cabalish, being too involved... I mean the list goes on and on with contradictory accusations).

The accusation that members of Congress are putting the interests of another nation ahead of our own are perfectly reasonable, and unless I'm badly mistaken, Rep Omar has made similar comments about Saudi buying American politics, which strongly suggests her concerns are earnest.
 

Bitek

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No reason that there shouldn't be some competition in the primary, so the ppl can hold their officials accountable. Let them decide if they like how she's representing them.

Overall I don't care tho.
 
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woolfe9998

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-Issue with that reasoning is that Jews have been accused of damn near everything across time (being too rich, being too poor, being too cabalish, being too involved... I mean the list goes on and on with contradictory accusations).

The accusation that members of Congress are putting the interests of another nation ahead of our own are perfectly reasonable, and unless I'm badly mistaken, Rep Omar has made similar comments about Saudi buying American politics, which strongly suggests her concerns are earnest.

So Jews "have been accused of everything" and that means effectively everything is an anti-Semitic trope, meaning nothing is an anti-Semitic trope. Sorry, you're wrong. Anti-Semtism isn't just a generic dislike for Jews. I has a specific architecture to it, and Omar's comments played right into it.
 

dank69

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I am also aghast from her comments. Until she said something that conservatives could use to really stroke my amygdala I didn't even know we elected a moosleman to Congress in lily white land. That cannot stand. First step to Sharia law dontchaknow.
 

blankslate

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Winning a seat does not entitle you to it. If a candidate becomes a liability, why not primary him or her.
She's only a liability to the easily bought Democratic Party members....
After all it's all about the Benjamins Beybey...


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sandorski

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The Democrats are going to have a number of Primary challenges to deal with. Time will tell how that all sifts out, but suspect the "Centrist" side is going to continue dwindling.
 

hal2kilo

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So Jews "have been accused of everything" and that means effectively everything is an anti-Semitic trope, meaning nothing is an anti-Semitic trope. Sorry, you're wrong. Anti-Semtism isn't just a generic dislike for Jews. I has a specific architecture to it, and Omar's comments played right into it.
Wow, this is getting into PC speech. I guess she needs to gin up.
 
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VRAMdemon

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I'll agree that she should be more careful with her messaging. She has said some things that were tone deaf as to the implications that could be assumed to her words, making her an easy target.

She hasn't accused them of supporting a (minor, local) foreign power; instead, she has accused them of “allegiance to a foreign country.” Support is one thing; allegiance is something completely different, which feeds into the classic antisemitic canard of dual loyalty. After all, an American can advocate that the U.S. support another country and still be a patriotic American, but one who gives "allegiance" - a claim that she does not support in any way - cannot.

I don't think Omar is anti-Jewish. She might be a little anti-Israel. Not that I want her or anyone to be anti-Israel. She's stepped on political landmines for sure.
 
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Starbuck1975

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She's only a liability to the easily bought Democratic Party members....
After all it's all about the Benjamins Beybey...


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I am not Jewish, so it is not for me to say what is and is not offensive, but there are plenty of Jewish Democrats who are none too pleased with her choice of words. It is one thing to criticize Israel. It is another to irresponsibly and immaturely evoke dog whistles on Twitter. It is not what she said but how she said it. She is a liability.