According to a new study, which is worse, driving drunk or driving while using a cell phone? w/poll

[thebigdude]

Read the article that summarizes a new study and find out.

 

[Doboji]

I don't care what that study shows... thats bullshyt

1) Using a handsfree set is the same as having a conversation with a passenger.

2) driving with a BAC of .08 is not any more dangerous for most people than being sleepy

3) driving with a handset pushed up against your ear is dangerous... it limits your head movement, and it limits you to one hand...

 

[artikk]

People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Doboji
1) Using a handsfree set is the same as having a conversation with a passenger.

Demonstrably false. When a road emergency happens, the passenger shuts up and lets you drive. When a road emergency happens, the person on the other side of the cell phone attempts to get MORE of your attention because you aren't responding. Thus, the cell phone is clearly more distracting than conversing with a passenger when it really matters. Many tests have proven this.

2) driving with a BAC of .08 is not any more dangerous for most people than being sleepy

Probably true. But driving while sleepy is dangerous.

This is your logic in work: playing Russian roulette is just as dangerous as having someone randomly push you or a friend of a skyscraper. Thus, you shouldn't worry about playing Russian roulette.

3) driving with a handset pushed up against your ear is dangerous... it limits your head movement, and it limits you to one hand...

Duh.

 

[Pacemaker]

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

I guess by your own logic you don't care about the safety of others (cell phone users and drunk drivers in this case) so you don't deserve to live.

I agree that something should be done, but killing them isn't the answer.

 

[junkerman123]

I personally cannot focus on driving when I'm talking on the phone, and it's even worse when I have to hold the headset. When I'm a little buzzed if anything I'm more focused on driving, and drive more carefully and better. So the argument makes sense to me.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Doboji
1) Using a handsfree set is the same as having a conversation with a passenger.

Demonstrably false. When a road emergency happens, the passenger shuts up and lets you drive. When a road emergency happens, the person on the other side of the cell phone attempts to get MORE of your attention because you aren't responding. Thus, the cell phone is clearly more distracting than conversing with a passenger when it really matters. Many tests have proven this.

2) driving with a BAC of .08 is not any more dangerous for most people than being sleepy

Probably true. But driving while sleepy is dangerous.

This is your logic in work: playing Russian roulette is just as dangerous as having someone randomly push you or a friend of a skyscraper. Thus, you shouldn't worry about playing Russian roulette.

3) driving with a handset pushed up against your ear is dangerous... it limits your head movement, and it limits you to one hand...

Duh.

bah... I disagree

 

[duragezic]

Bah, regardless, I could have a few in me, high on weed, high on opiates, and talk on the phone, in the dark, while raining, and still drive better than most people.

😉 Though there is some truth to that. Though throw in some zannies and I might start swerving. 🙂

edit: Yeah cell phones are pretty bad. I guess its a little different in a small town in a remote area... just not like the city where every person needs to be on the phone in bumper-to-bumper traffic. I use my phone freely in the car, but it amounts to answering and talking for a minute or two or making a quick call. There's plenty of roads with not much traffic to make this not a problem at all. Plus I do try and pay attention as much as possible while on it for a few short minutes, but its these idiots gabbing for hours on their commute to/from work. And yeah unless I'm totally hammered to where I shouldn't be driving, drinking a few and/or being high makes me more attentive and drive PERFECTLY so I don't get harasses by the pigs.

 

[Doboji]

Originally posted by: duragezic
Bah, regardless, I could have a few in me, high on weed, high on opiates, and talk on the phone, in the dark, while raining, and still drive better than most people.

😉 Though there is some truth to that. Though throw in some zannies and I might start swerving. 🙂

But there really is some truth to that statement... think of all the idiots on the road. While your example is a bit extreme... an attentive driver with a BAC of .08 is FAR better than an inattentive driver with no alcohol at all. A driver with a cell phone up to their ear is always an inattentive driver.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: junkerman123
I personally cannot focus on driving when I'm talking on the phone, and it's even worse when I have to hold the headset. When I'm a little buzzed if anything I'm more focused on driving, and drive more carefully and better. So the argument makes sense to me.

ditto. out of those choices, I would have to say that people on cell phones are definitely the most dangerous.

i cannot count the # of times I've seen someone almost pull into me changing lanes, swerve into another lane infront of me, or slam on their brakes and almost rear end someone, and then as soon as I pass them ... yep, they are on the cell phone.

when i've had a drink or two and i know i'm buzzing but still below that limit, i drive alot more cautiously than i normally do because i just focus more.

 

[artikk]

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

I guess by your own logic you don't care about the safety of others (cell phone users and drunk drivers in this case) so you don't deserve to live.

I agree that something should be done, but killing them isn't the answer.

I agree that killing them is an extreme sort of a solution but merely passing a bill won't stop them from using the cell phone(most of the people anyway) and drunk drivers don't care if they hit someone, they're drunk.

 

[thebigdude]

Originally posted by: artikk

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

I guess by your own logic you don't care about the safety of others (cell phone users and drunk drivers in this case) so you don't deserve to live.

I agree that something should be done, but killing them isn't the answer.

I agree that killing them is an extreme sort of a solution but merely passing a bill won't stop them from using the cell phone(most of the people anyway) and drunk drivers don't care if they hit someone, they're drunk.

QFT. The second time somebody hit me he was driving drunk. It was his 4th DWI. He had already killed one lady and was still drinking and driving.

 

[fitzov]

yeah, I'm sure this poll is more accurate than an actual study...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: artikk

Originally posted by: Pacemaker

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

I guess by your own logic you don't care about the safety of others (cell phone users and drunk drivers in this case) so you don't deserve to live.

I agree that something should be done, but killing them isn't the answer.

I agree that killing them is an extreme sort of a solution but merely passing a bill won't stop them from using the cell phone(most of the people anyway) and drunk drivers don't care if they hit someone, they're drunk.

Here's an idea. We set cell-phone driving laws = to drunk-driving laws, and see how damn fast people get off the phone.

 

[BooGiMaN]

speaking strictly from a non-politically correct stereotypical standpoint you forgot to add the options:

while a woman

while an asian

to the poll 😛

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
speaking strictly from a non-politically correct stereotypical standpoint you forgot to add the options:

while a woman

while an asian

while over the age of 60

to the poll 😛

fixed 😛

 

[Trikat]

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

Some people actually still drive well with a cell phone.
I have yet to see someone drive well while being fairly drunk. There are people who can take a few more than others, but i'm talking about when you are just that drunk.

I had to vote for drunk since the poll said which is worse.

 

[Soccerman06]

Originally posted by: Trikat

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

Some people actually still drive well with a cell phone.
I have yet to see someone drive well while being fairly drunk. There are people who can take a few more than others, but i'm talking about when you are just that drunk.

I had to vote for drunk since the poll said which is worse.

Driving fairly drunk and driving buzzed is different.

Its the difference between 3 beers and 10 beers.

 

[The Batt?sai]

Originally posted by: artikk
People driving drunk OR using a cell phone while driving should be shot on the spot. They don't care for their own safety or the safety of others. They don't deserve to live.

guess you'll have to be shot too 🙂

 

[UncleWai]

ban cellphones while driving. I've had enough of those soccermoms trying to kill me everytime they try to merge lane with a cellphone on.

 

[Baked]

I'd say something, but one of the mods is probably a DUI+cell phone while driving sympathizer, so I'll just leave what I have to say outside. But I will say this - Ban both.

 

[TGS]

I've noticed a great deal of the people not paying attention to the road, typically appear to be holding a phone with one hand.

 

[Brutuskend]

That doesn't surprise me in the least.

Talking on the phone, ANY Phone while driving should be illegal!

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: TGS
I've noticed a great deal of the people not paying attention to the road, typically appear to be holding a phone with one hand.

I've noticed a lot of people driving recklessly while not talking on a cell phone, what's your point?

It's all bogus. I'm not afraid to say I talk on the phone when driving. Goes all the way back to when I was 16 with a bag car phone. Just because a few people cannot handle it doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone. There are more idiot drivers who do not talk on cell phones, what's going to be done about them?

And I have been rear-ended by someone talking on a cell phone not paying attention thinking the light had turned green. Doesn't bother me, though. And I've been forced to be the middle car of three on a two lane interstate because a jackass never looked before merging, he wasn't on a cell phone, he pissed me off a lot more even though no damage was done.

 

[Brutuskend]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: TGS
I've noticed a great deal of the people not paying attention to the road, typically appear to be holding a phone with one hand.

I've noticed a lot of people driving recklessly while not talking on a cell phone, what's your point?

It's all bogus. I'm not afraid to say I talk on the phone when driving. Goes all the way back to when I was 16 with a bag car phone. Just because a few people cannot handle it doesn't mean it should be banned for everyone. There are more idiot drivers who do not talk on cell phones, what's going to be done about them?

And I have been rear-ended by someone talking on a cell phone not paying attention thinking the light had turned green. Doesn't bother me, though. And I've been forced to be the middle car of three on a two lane interstate because a jackass never looked before merging, he wasn't on a cell phone, he pissed me off a lot more even though no damage was done.

Yeah, and some people can drive perfectly well when they have had 12 beers. Others can't drive worth a damn if they had had ONE.

Drinking laws were made to protect people from the latter. Some people CAN drive just fine while on the phone and others can't, so like other laws made to protect the public for the AVERAGE or below average diver it should be illegal for ANYONE to drive while on the phone.