Accidently busted tabs off fcpga socket - HELP

Wiz

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On my main machine I busted off the tabs on the socket that you plug the cpu into.
It's an Asus CUSL2-C mobo.
I was trying to improve cpu cooling by adding a peltier and copper coldplate to my alpha hsf and obviously I applied too much pressure on the little tabs that are there to hold the heat sink in place.
Busted them right off.
A little research told me that ASUS has some kind of design flaw in the chemistry they use on these things and they are a bit more brittle than you expect.
Regardless, now I am stuck. I am currently using bailing wire (19 guage steel wire)
running through the heat sink, around the offset tabs that are on the side of the socket, the one on the back is down low and the one in the front is up high. THis puts the hsf cockeyed and not exactly flat on the cpu.
At idle it runs at 10C according to MBM 5.04 but when I start seti it rapidly rises to 60C when I quickly shut seti off, then the temp rapidly falls back to 10C.
I have ordered the 'repair kit' for this problem from millisec.com but I don't know if it will help when you have busted both sides.
I have thought about using thermal adhesive instead of compound. I know this is generally a big no-no but in this case it may be justified.
Please share any ideas you may have, at this point I am all ears! ô¿ô
 

mastertech01

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Damn brother that sucks! Well Ill share what I did and you can laugh your AZZ off if you want but it works..of course this one only had one side broken off. I purchased it that way, as the original purchaser broke it off. This is an Abit SA6R Raid board with fgpga socket. I being an auto technician for years have a set of carburetor main jet drills. Tiny drill bits that you use with a hand held tool that they lock into..It would be about the size of an exacto blade if you know what that is. With this mini drill I drilled a tiny hole into the center of the area where the heatsink retainer used to be. Then I screwed in a very small round headed crosstip screw into the socket approx 3/16 of an inch with about 1/8 inch left protruding. This screw is much stronger and works just great.. and sure beats tossing a 160.00 motherboard in the dumpster.. :) I am interested in this kit you are talking about.. please post an URL on that.. thanks.
 

Wiz

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Yes, I know what all that stuff is... Have used it myself a couple times. Don't have any of those tools now as I have been trying to make a living with these computers for the past 6 years...
I was tempted to take a 1/16th drill and do just what you described. No reason it wouldn't work on bith sides. Here's what I've done up to now tho..
With my handy 19 guage bailing wire (or tie wire some call it) I ran a loop across so it hooks to one of the offset lugs and then another loop across to hook up to the other offset lug. Then a lot of twisting and tightening and adjusting and foul language later I kind of have it working. Which is to say I can run it at stock speed and under full load of seti it only goes up to 48C. If I overclock from stock 700 up to 933 the temp goes up past 60C under load and I am not comfortable with that. With no load the temp stays down where mobo and cpu are equal at about 32C.

Here's the place where I ordered the repair kit
 

mastertech01

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Yikes thats scarey.. :eek: But if it works it works.. Looks like that repair kit will only repair one side though.. but you sound engenius enough to figure something out.. :) Maybe one day they will make a socket that these can be replaced on. Wouldnt take much to make a modification like that.
 

Wiz

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Or they could make them a little less fragile.
Don't they know we are putting alpha's on these things???
Those things were made from pretty brittle plastic, it broke like it was a crystalline matrix. I've busted my share of stuff as I am sure you have and you know you get a feel for the quality of things as you are breaking them. Twisting 3/8 drive socket extensions until they break off tells you what that company uses for steel. If it snaps like chrystal or if it twists slowly like taffy these things tell you what you are dealing with. This plastic ASUS is using is crap!
That being said, I can't believe I snapped the second one off - I guess I was just getting desperate.
I'll be running at stockl speed until I get the kit from millisec and spend yet another day farting around with this processor. Maybe my new ram from Steve will get here by then and I can make it a party! :D
 

clumsum

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There are now hsf's available w/retaining clips that have three slots on each side, for Socket A's and others, these will usually work on Socket 370 zif-sockets.......
If you broke the small center tab off of each side, you should still have a larger off-set plastic tab on each side ..............?
I am looking at a slocket adapter w/Socket 370 zif-socket ...........

If you still have at least one intact tab on each side of the socket then the above hsf retaining clip will work, ................
The brands that come to mind are:

Taisol CGK-742092 - Large hsf designed for Socket A - Not easy to find in-stock $20. - $30.
Cooler Master DP5-5H53-01 - Small hsf designed for Socket A - cheap about $15.

There are probably others available, no need to jury-rig your mb zif-socket, just do a search of the Mfg.'s web site and go from there............!
Good luck ................ post your results, it may help someone else ..........?
 

Wiz

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clumsum, thanks I have been looking at the taisol tonight and saw their mechanism. Looks lie a better idea anyway. I hate to decommission my alpha but I need a good solid heat sink solution right now.
I would like to find a taisol without fan, then use my 7200 rpm delta on that baby;)