Accepting new job/quitting old job...someone walk me through?

[HardcoreRobot]

accept the contingent offer, dont put in your notice until all contingencies clear and you have a start date

 

[Mxylplyx]

Dont give a 2 week notice until you have an actual start date at your new place of employment, which should not be determined until all pre-employment checks are complete.

 

[Mxylplyx]

you don't wanna even consider a counter offer. google counter offers and you will see how much of a bad idea it is.

you are obviously looking for a job because you are not happy at your current job. no amount of money will give you long term happiness there. sure if you did accept a counter offer it would be nice for a bit, but then you will just remember all the reasons you were looking for a job in the first place are still there and that you are miserable.

That is not necessarily true. For young professionals, your skills and marketability often quickly outpace your pay, and employers often know this, though they aren't going to pony up until you force their hand. When I was 23, I was only making 42K/yr as a junior programmer, though I possessed the skills and productivity of a senior programmer. I got another offer for $60K, and then got my then current employer to counter up to 70K. I worked for that company for several more years before ultimately leaving. Quibbling over only a few thousand, or entertaining an offer for only marginally more than what you are currently making is what can breed resentment.

 

[purbeast0]

That is not necessarily true. For young professionals, your skills and marketability often quickly outpace your pay, and employers often know this, though they aren't going to pony up until you force their hand. When I was 23, I was only making 42K/yr as a junior programmer, though I possessed the skills and productivity of a senior programmer. I got another offer for $60K, and then got my then current employer to counter up to 70K. I worked for that company for several more years before ultimately leaving. Quibbling over only a few thousand, or entertaining an offer for only marginally more than what you are currently making is what can breed resentment.

yeah obviously every scenario is different.

and if you were truly at senior level, $70k is way underpaid still.

if the ONLY reason he's looking elsewhere is for money reasons, then i would consider a counter offer. any other reason, nope.

 

[Corporate Thug]

you don't wanna even consider a counter offer. google counter offers and you will see how much of a bad idea it is.

you are obviously looking for a job because you are not happy at your current job. no amount of money will give you long term happiness there. sure if you did accept a counter offer it would be nice for a bit, but then you will just remember all the reasons you were looking for a job in the first place are still there and that you are miserable.

I know a lot of people who aren't happy with their jobs mainly because of $ and with more $ they would stay.

 

[CountZero]

I know a lot of people who aren't happy with their jobs mainly because of $ and with more $ they would stay.

Was coming here to say pretty much this. I did the counter offer thing and it worked great. When I was looking it was solely to bump up pay and that's what happened. I did leave two years later but that's because I was tired of Texas and even still that salary bump I got helped me negotiate a better pay yet again. It will depend on the company but where I was managers couldn't do anything about salary unless you started it, and so they harbored no hard feelings and were glad I finally did something.

As for OP counter offer comes before you accept the offer. If you put in your two weeks and take a counter offer there's a fairly high chance you burn that bridge and depending on industry and how insular it is that might be a stupid move especially if you are looking elsewhere for reasons other than pay.

 

[PenguinPower]

There are no restrictions that I am aware aware of as long its its truthful

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/backgroundcheck/f/whatemployerscansay.htm

Employers tend to air on a side of caution because they don't want potential liability for defamation, etc. But to say someone left without notice isn't even an opinion.

As a practical matter, I would hate to sweat out the possibility of what my former employer would say because I was too bone headed to give proper notice...it's not rocket science!

And quite honestly, if you're moving to another company in the same area, a lot of HR folks are networked and may officially follow company policy in regards to limited release of employment info, but find ways to tell each other all the details.

 

[IHAVEAQUESTION]

Was coming here to say pretty much this. I did the counter offer thing and it worked great. When I was looking it was solely to bump up pay and that's what happened. I did leave two years later but that's because I was tired of Texas and even still that salary bump I got helped me negotiate a better pay yet again. It will depend on the company but where I was managers couldn't do anything about salary unless you started it, and so they harbored no hard feelings and were glad I finally did something.

I assume your boss likes you but can't do anything unless you brought in a higher offer. Is that your situation?

 

[CountZero]

I assume your boss likes you but can't do anything unless you brought in a higher offer. Is that your situation?

Not exactly. I mentioned I was looking and was expecting an offer, never told them what my offer was (I actually got the counter offer before the offer). Just knowing I was looking was enough to get a counter offer but without that threat of leaving HR wouldn't approve a salary increase 1) that high or 2) off cycle.

 

[IHAVEAQUESTION]

That's interesting. I've heard similar situation from a friend of mine. But he had to bring in a higher offer for his company to counter. Just curious, is yours a fairly large corporation? Or is it more of a relationship type of situation in a small or mid-sized firm?

 

[CountZero]

That's interesting. I've heard similar situation from a friend of mine. But he had to bring in a higher offer for his company to counter. Just curious, is yours a fairly large corporation? Or is it more of a relationship type of situation in a small or mid-sized firm?

It was a huge company. Maybe top ten or twenty in # of employees.