Absolute train wreck (My 600lb Life Show)

[UsandThem]

'Lacey's Journey' - Aired on Dec 2.

1. I've never been to Washington, but based on what I saw on this episode, in Kennewick drugs are prevalent and salad/vegetables must not be available (every person in the episode was big and looked like they've had very rough lives).

2. If I had to be in a car with Sharon for longer than 10 minutes, I'd seriously buy and bite down on a cyanide pill to end my suffering of being near her. That is one very opinionated, loud, and angry person.

3. What an absolute shit-show of humanity by all parties involved (but mostly by Sharon the loud, opinionated, angry devil woman). Some people apparently don't care how badly they present themselves on TV...... basically a real life version of the Jerry Springer Show.

Spoiler

On the first road trip down to Houston with her boyfriend (Steven) and Sharon (devil woman), Lacey decides to shit herself in the car.

On the 2nd road trip down with the same people, Sharon goes absolutely insane on her, and it ends with Lacey calling the police and being left in Texas at a gas station, breaking up with her boyfriend (and thanking him for wiping her ass), and all of her possessions in the U-Haul trailer being "donated" by Sharon and Steven in College Station, TX after they left.

 

[Torn Mind]

It's easy to gain weight. Just stuff easily digestible carbs into the diet and it will go up in no time. Throw in drugs and booze, and there is no limit.

Obesity is a lifestyle disease, and proper dieting is the most neglected component of the "fix". +

Surgery is a quick fix and a bandaid solution that doesn't cover all the problems a bad diet can cause. Low carb is the pathway.

 

[Dr. Detroit]

Obesity - heart disease - diabetes - kills how many people a year, yet we still allow people to buy Oreos. It's a problem!

 

[BoomerD]

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[Iron Woode]

Obesity - heart disease - diabetes - kills how many people a year, yet we still allow people to buy Oreos. It's a problem!

it gets worse with the Fat Acceptance Movement. Watch some of those videos and you will start getting angry at the denial and the stupidity on display.

 

[Iron Woode]

'Lacey's Journey' - Aired on Dec 2.

1. I've never been to Washington, but based on what I saw on this episode, in Kennewick drugs are prevalent and salad/vegetables must not be available (every person in the episode was big and looked like they've had very rough lives).

2. If I had to be in a car with Sharon for longer than 10 minutes, I'd seriously buy and bite down on a cyanide pill to end my suffering of being near her. That is one very opinionated, loud, and angry person.

3. What an absolute shit-show of humanity by all parties involved (but mostly by Sharon the loud, opinionated, angry devil woman). Some people apparently don't care how badly they present themselves on TV...... basically a real life version of the Jerry Springer Show.

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Spoiler

On the first road trip down to Houston with her boyfriend (Steven) and Sharon (devil woman), Lacey decides to shit herself in the car.

On the 2nd road trip down with the same people, Sharon goes absolutely insane on her, and it ends with Lacey calling the police and being left in Texas at a gas station, breaking up with her boyfriend (and thanking him for wiping her ass), and all of her possessions in the U-Haul trailer being "donated" by Sharon and Steven in College Station, TX after they left.

Why are you torturing yourself watching that show?

 

[snoopy7548]

These morbidly obese people need hobbies. First step... turn off TLC, cut the cable cord, get off the couch, and just walk around.

 

[UsandThem]

Why are you torturing yourself watching that show?

I don't know.

I've always watched it since it first started, and I generally hate most "reality TV" shows (I think this is the only thing I watch anything on the TLC channel).

It's interesting to see why someone decided to eat themselves to 600lb - 900lb. Some of the people you feel bad for, some of the people you just can't stand.

 

[nakedfrog]

Kennewick is on the wrong side of the mountains, so it's basically West Idaho. MAGA Country.

 

[pete6032]

These morbidly obese people need hobbies. First step... turn off TLC, cut the cable cord, get off the couch, and just walk around.

I agree with you. Unfortunately most of our country was designed without walking in mind. Unless you live in a core city or a retirement community, walking opportunities are limited.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I bet you singles guys of ATOT might have a chance with her if you make over $19k a year. You should go to Washington and try to find her.

 

[Captante]

These morbidly obese people need hobbies. First step... turn off TLC, cut the cable cord, get off the couch, and just walk around.

I'd say step 1 for most people needs to be put down the damn fork.



Sorry but fat is not beautiful or even okay in any way.... its disgusting and unhealthy.

Unless a person genuinely (and VERY few actually are) is diagnosed with a health condition mental or physical preventing them from losing weight I have very little sympathy.

I can see getting depressed and putting on 15-20lbs but wth .... if you literally eat yourself to the size of a smallish elephant you need to be institutionalized for your own good.

 

[RearAdmiral]

While only anecdotal the only insanely obese folks I've known have some pretty clear mental issues.

 

[Captante]

While only anecdotal the only insanely obese folks I've known have some pretty clear mental issues.

I strongly suspect this is the case with the vast majority of "uber-fatties", even those with another physical condition that contributes.

Most people who are overweight, are that way simply because they take in substantially more calories then they burn on a daily basis. (and often don't exercise or even move around much)

The excuses provided for this eating behavior are as varied as the individuals involved BUT the base explanation is nearly always the same.

(people don't like to hear this because it puts the responsibility for their condition SQUARELY on them)

 

[JM Aggie08]

My 84 y/o grandmother watches this show. Beyond me how she endures it regularly.

 

[Captante]

My 84 y/o grandmother watches this show. Beyond me how she endures it regularly.

Same with my ex-wife.... I just can't see the attraction.

(maybe like not being able to look away from a train-wreck?)

 

[Torn Mind]

I'd say step 1 for most people needs to be put down the damn fork.



Sorry but fat is not beautiful or even okay in any way.... its disgusting and unhealthy.

Unless a person genuinely (and VERY few actually are) is diagnosed with a health condition mental or physical preventing them from losing weight I have very little sympathy.

I can see getting depressed and putting on 15-20lbs but wth .... if you literally eat yourself to the size of a smallish elephant you need to be institutionalized for your own good.

I would not put lack of effort as one of the higher reasons people stay fat.

Dietary guidelines are in contradiction to proper eating and weight maintenance. The sheer encouragement of grains and other starchy foods leads to a hormone cycle that encourages weight gain. The seasoning of most foods with sugar does the same. Insulin is great for gaining mass, be it muscle or fat, by signaling cells to take in glucose and fat. The "crash" of insulin in the bloodstream also leads to the feeling of hunger. Fatty foods and protein-rich foods, in the absence of easily digestible carbohydrates, trigger satiation much sooner. Add rice, sugar, etc, and the the starch/sugar increases the threshold in the amount a person can eat.

There is also the matter of budget. Grains are super cheap, sometimes even free. If someone is getting food from a food bank or church program, there's plenty of cereal, pasta, bread. I know because my mom has nabbed that kind of food for over 14 years and still does.

I've gained weight from 54.1kg(119lb) in mid-October to 57.5kg(126lb) yesterday by reintroducing breads, pancakes(rice and regular), pizza, etc into my diet. I fucking felt cold and didn't like it, and knew what to do.

 

[Captante]

I would not put lack of effort as one of the higher reasons people stay fat.

Dietary guidelines are in contradiction to proper eating and weight maintenance. The sheer encouragement of grains and other starchy foods leads to a hormone cycle that encourages weight gain. The seasoning of most foods with sugar does the same. Insulin is great for gaining mass, be it muscle or fat, by signaling cells to take in glucose and fat. The "crash" of insulin in the bloodstream also leads to the feeling of hunger. Fatty foods and protein-rich foods, in the absence of easily digestible carbohydrates, trigger satiation much sooner. Add rice, sugar, etc, and the the starch/sugar increases the threshold in the amount a person can eat.

There is also the matter of budget. Grains are super cheap, sometimes even free. If someone is getting food from a food bank or church program, there's plenty of cereal, pasta, bread. I know because my mom has nabbed that kind of food for over 14 years and still does.

I've gained weight from 54.1kg(119lb) in mid-October to 57.5kg(126lb) yesterday by reintroducing breads, pancakes(rice and regular), pizza, etc into my diet. I fucking felt cold and didn't like it, and knew what to do.

"Grains" themselves are not the issue here..... the problem is that Americans for the most part only eat HIGHLY processed grains which are stripped of nearly all nutritional value by bleaching etc.

WHOLE grain bread without a butt-ton of added sugars for example has more then enough fiber and other healthy parts to make up for the carbs, BUT they are chewy, dense and relatively small in appearance compared to the "poofy" stuff like Wonder Bread that is converted directly to sugar once eaten. Americans don't buy them.

Look at the ingredients on a box of Kelloggs Raisin Bran cereal.... the first one is wheat bran and you won't see sugar listed till #4, HOWEVER it actually contains sugar in 3 DIFFERENT forms for a whopping 17 GRAMS of sugar per 1 cup serving.... its like eating poison.



BUT ..... you know what excuses are like and everybody has one!

I agree with JMAggie08.... mental illness is the most reasonable explanation, supplemented by physical problems made worse by an individual's a$$ out-weighing some small sedans.

Barring an extremely serious medical condition, what other possible explanation could there be? Have you watched these shows and seen what these folks do to themselves? (we're not talking about gaining a few pounds over a month here)

Just like serious heavy drinkers its suicide on an installment-plan.

 

[Torn Mind]

Kennewick is on the wrong side of the mountains, so it's basically West Idaho. MAGA Country.

The lady featured is a Bernie gal and her Twitter in 2017 had her posting that Trump should show her tax return.

She also retweeted

https://twitter.com/x/status/883487958191398912

.

I think it's clear where her leanings lie.

https://twitter.com/buckingham118

 

[UsandThem]

I would not put lack of effort as one of the higher reasons people stay fat.

Dietary guidelines are in contradiction to proper eating and weight maintenance. The sheer encouragement of grains and other starchy foods leads to a hormone cycle that encourages weight gain. The seasoning of most foods with sugar does the same. Insulin is great for gaining mass, be it muscle or fat, by signaling cells to take in glucose and fat. The "crash" of insulin in the bloodstream also leads to the feeling of hunger. Fatty foods and protein-rich foods, in the absence of easily digestible carbohydrates, trigger satiation much sooner. Add rice, sugar, etc, and the the starch/sugar increases the threshold in the amount a person can eat.

There is also the matter of budget. Grains are super cheap, sometimes even free. If someone is getting food from a food bank or church program, there's plenty of cereal, pasta, bread. I know because my mom has nabbed that kind of food for over 14 years and still does.

I've gained weight from 54.1kg(119lb) in mid-October to 57.5kg(126lb) yesterday by reintroducing breads, pancakes(rice and regular), pizza, etc into my diet. I fucking felt cold and didn't like it, and knew what to do.

"Grains" themselves are not the issue here..... the problem is that Americans for the most part only eat HIGHLY processed grains which are stripped of nearly all nutritional value by bleaching etc.

WHOLE grain bread without a butt-ton of added sugars for example has more then enough fiber and other healthy parts to make up for the carbs, BUT they are chewy, dense and relatively small in appearance compared to the "poofy" stuff like Wonder Bread that is converted directly to sugar once eaten.



BUT ..... you know what excuses are like and everybody has one!

I agree with JMAggie08.... mental illness is the most reasonable explanation, supplemented by physical problems made worse by an individual's a$$ out-weighing some small sedans.

Barring an extremely serious medical condition, what other possible explanation could there be? Have you watched these shows and seen what these folks do to themselves? (we're not talking about gaining a few pounds over a month here)

Just like serious heavy drinkers its suicide on an installment-plan.

I've watched this show since 2012 (when it started). Outside of maybe 2 people who have been on the show, the reason that 99.9% of them weigh so much is this:

Most of them had a pretty traumatic event early in their lives (many being raped/molested as kids), some with some mentally ill parents who pretty much sabotaged their health to keep them dependent, but pretty much all of them dealt with anxiety and depression.

 

[Captante]

I've watched this show since 2012 (when it started). Outside of maybe 2 people who have been on the show, the reason that 99.9% of them way so much is this:

Most of them had a pretty traumatic event early in their lives (many being raped/molested as kids), some with some mentally ill parents who pretty much sabotaged their health to keep them dependent, but pretty much all of them dealt with anxiety and depression.

I don't doubt this for a moment....

*(this would count as a legit medical condition IMO)

More fallout from our disgraceful excuse for a healthcare system in America doing next to nothing for peoples mental health.

 

[Torn Mind]

"Grains" themselves are not the issue here..... the problem is that Americans for the most part only eat HIGHLY processed grains which are stripped of nearly all nutritional value by bleaching etc.

WHOLE grain bread without a butt-ton of added sugars for example has more then enough fiber and other healthy parts to make up for the carbs, BUT they are chewy, dense and relatively small in appearance compared to the "poofy" stuff like Wonder Bread that is converted directly to sugar once eaten. Americans don't buy them.



BUT ..... you know what excuses are like and everybody has one!

I agree with JMAggie08.... mental illness is the most reasonable explanation, supplemented by physical problems made worse by an individual's a$$ out-weighing some small sedans.

Barring an extremely serious medical condition, what other possible explanation could there be? Have you watched these shows and seen what these folks do to themselves? (we're not talking about gaining a few pounds over a month here)

Just like serious heavy drinkers its suicide on an installment-plan.

Whole grains are slightly better because of a more complete nutritional profile and less total amount of food consumed due to the fiber content. But the starchy part still gets cleaved by enzymes into glucose, which triggers the release of insulin and thus the "cycle" of hunger.

Haven't watched the shows, but if they are medicated for mental problems, is it the mental issue itself or the medicine side effects? I mean, we do have a 400 lb member here(Larry), and he downs energy drinks because they are the few things that make him feel a bit better from his meds' side effects.

It would be a lack of effort if they lapse after informing them of what to eat and what not to eat on a general level.

 

[UsandThem]

I don't doubt this for a moment....

*(this would count as a legit medical condition IMO)

More fallout from our disgraceful excuse for a healthcare system in America doing next to nothing for peoples mental health.

There's only so much you can do for people who don't care.

Many of these people are on medications for their mental health, and have received mental health treatment. However, much like someone who wants to drink themselves to death, as long as they aren't posing a risk to others (like drinking in driving), there's only so much that can be done. Hell, even people who do things like smoke cigarettes or eat crap diets just don't care. The doctors obviously tell them they need to stop doing those things, but unless someone physically forces them to stop, I don't know what else could be done.

Personally I wouldn't want to live in a country where the government could force people against their will to be involuntarily held because they simply don't care about their health. That would open up a Pandora's box on what the government could get involved in.

 

[Captante]

Whole grains are slightly better because of a more complete nutritional profile and less total amount of food consumed due to the fiber content. But the starchy part still gets cleaved by enzymes into glucose, which triggers the release of insulin and thus the "cycle" of hunger.

Haven't watched the shows, but if they are medicated for mental problems, is it the mental issue itself or the medicine side effects? I mean, we do have a 400 lb member here(Larry), and he downs energy drinks because they are the few things that make him feel a bit better from his meds' side effects.

It would be a lack of effort if they lapse after informing them of what to eat and what not to eat on a general level.

More like reasonable quantities of whole-grains are HEALTHY and ANY amount of processed grains are really bad for you.

High-fiber foods do not cause anything like the blood-sugar spike you get from a serving of processed flour even if they also contain carbs.

Don't take my word for it, ask a medical professional.

 

[Torn Mind]

I've watched this show since 2012 (when it started). Outside of maybe 2 people who have been on the show, the reason that 99.9% of them way so much is this:

Most of them had a pretty traumatic event early in their lives (many being raped/molested as kids), some with some mentally ill parents who pretty much sabotaged their health to keep them dependent, but pretty much all of them dealt with anxiety and depression.

Pizza has a substantial flour component.
Lady two has fried chicken and bread, again starches.

I myself am a starch addict, and thus bare minimum I have to eat at least a little low sugar fruit like blackberries so I don't feel miserable. The body's response to glucose makes people feel good, so I'm not surprised if someone with issues turns to foods containing glucose's complex precursors to get their fix.