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Absolute best LCD?

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What is the best LCD for a mixed use environment... moderate gaming, but a lot of web browsing and general use.

Size is not a huge issue.. 19" 1280x1024 is more than large enough.

How about that new viewsonic VX924? ANything better if I'm willing to put down more cash?
 
the VX924 was just in the hotdeals section at buy.com for like 389 plus shipping. i dunno though for my money id go with the hyundai l90d+ which is brighter and has better contrast than the viewsonic. the only thing you give up is response time. but im not sure if the human eye can detect the diff between 4ms and 8ms 😛 i could be wrong.

im also trying to get more info on the acer AL1951B which according to its specs might even be a little better than the hyundai. but that remains to be see.
 
I bought the viewsonic vx924 and im very happy with it. The image quality is great, the brightness can be adjusted to comfortable levels ( i had to adjust mine) , and this LCD is great for games. This thing is quality, i have spent many days staring at it all day long and no eye strain whatsoever!
 
Originally posted by: wasserkool
samsung 193P+ is hands down the best 19 inch LCD in the market right now.

i used to own a Samsung LCD and it burnt my eyes out. Even at the lowest brightness levels it was still unbearable. VX924 by viewsonic is easy on my eyes. Its plenty bright, just not too bright. Too bright = eye strain eventually.

 
Samsung 193P+ or Viewsonic VP191b.

Make sure you get the new version if you look at the Viewsonic.

If viewing angles matter, you're not going to want a TN panel such as the Viewsonic vx924. Those TN monitors also aren't capable of displaying as many colors as a MVA, PVA, or IPS panel.
 
The VERY best LCD is the Samsung 193P+. Although you could also get the fairly similar Viewsonic VP191B. Both of these LCD are the second to none for 19".
 
Originally posted by: Unkno
The VERY best LCD is the Samsung 193P+. Although you could also get the fairly similar Viewsonic VP191B. Both of these LCD are the second to none for 19".

VP191b >>> VX924. 924's BS "fast response times" compromise color and image quality too. I have a VP191b and I've compared it heads up to a Samsung 930B and the Viewsonic blows it away. Don't get a 6-bit TN panel (930B, L90) because those suck for general purpose use. They may be fast, but not great for day to day.

I game and I do video/picture editing on my VP191b, and it's great. If you have a bit more cash, feel free to buy the Samsung 193P+.
 
You should decide what kind of polarization you want as this makes a big difference and will dictate your choice. Most LCD's (all of the ones mentioned above) have a mat polarizer that reduces glare but also brightness. Some monitors come with a "glassy" coated polarizer that makes the image really come alive in my opinion. Clarity, brightness and color saturation are unmatched in my opinion. These latter finishes go by trade names such as xBrite (Sony) or Opticlear (NEC). Both of these manufacturers make highly rated 17" and 19" LCD's with this finish.

It goes without saying (perhaps) that you should really only consider a monitor with a digital DVI input for the best quality and least interference, assuming your graphics card does or will have this connection available. Also be sure to check the specs that the monitor you're considering supports full 24bit color and not 18bit.

Next, consider dot-pitch and therefore size. Do you want a .29 dot pitch or a .26 dot pitch. That's the difference between 19" and 17" displays. Note that both have the same resolution, one just has the pixels farther apart. If you are sitting close to your screen you might find a 19" display uncomfortable. If you are more than arms reach from your screen, the 19" is probably fine.

If you want a display for movies/gaming, the thought seems to be that you want a display with sub 16ms response times. However, I used a 25ms display for 2 years for gaming and video and never noticed any appreciable ghosting. My research has shown that manufactures will sometimes claim different specs even when the actual LCD panel is identical in both products so I'm not sure how much you can actually trust specs.

Finally, try to get down to your local Fry's, Best Buy, or whatever and have a look, even if you don't buy there, it will be a great opportunity to evaluate the image, size, style, and ergonomics before you buy elsewhere.

Good luck.
 
Another vote for the Samsung 193p+ which I use a lot for gaming ... very satisfied with it. I picked it up for $649 CAN so it's a bit pricey. No ghosting that I can discern.

On the Opticlear or xBrite technologies, make sure you check it out in the store and ensure that you like it. It certainly brings out the colours but it also has a LOT of glare in brightly lit rooms (I could see the fluorescent lights being reflected from the store ceiling along with my reflection etc.)
 
I'm well satisfied with Samsung TFTs.
2 x Samsung SyncMaster 213T Black 21.3? TFT
http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc...uct_detail.jsp?eUser=&prod_id=NB21BSAB
ATI Radeon 9800XT 256MB AGP retail/Asus P4T533-C
P4 2.8b\533MHz FSB retail/1GB OCZ PC1066 RIMMs
WinXP HE SP2 slipstream full/clean

I was used to ViewSonic CRTs
ie P817 21" shadow mask (likely the best they ever made)
P225f 22" Aperture grille

I'll never go back to CRTs.
Be prepared to game at the LCD's native resolution for best visuals.
My native is 1600x1200 60Hz (DVI monitor #1/ VGA monitor #2)
I'm playing at that with bf1942 (various mods) and bf2 & I don't notice any artifacts.
Response Time : .25ms
I'd be wary of Response Time specs.
Different mfrs appear to be measuring RT differently.

Happy trailz,
 
im also in the market for a decent lcd but cannot justify the expense for the 193p or the 191b. i was leaning toward the hyundai till someone said something about 6 bit tn panel....enlighten me?
 
Originally posted by: mrkun
The VP191b is the best overall. VX924 response time vs. VP191b


...as i said before the 193P+ has similar (if not better) overall response time than the VP191B, it also has a little more contrast. Get the 193P+ if it's not too much more expensive but both are very good products and you can't go wrong with either.
 
Originally posted by: longballmaniac
im also in the market for a decent lcd but cannot justify the expense for the 193p or the 191b. i was leaning toward the hyundai till someone said something about 6 bit tn panel....enlighten me?


All TN panels are 6-bit. To put it shortly: 6-bit panels (hyundai L90D+ is 6-bit) have less colors but offer faster response timings (TN panels).

But now, with the arrival of the Samsung 193P+ and Viewsonic VP191B (MVA panel), even though the response times aren't very low compared to TN panels, they can maintain the same responsetime (for example: the ms on them are something from: 12ms-18ms, while the TN panels that are rated 8ms have a range of 8ms-25ms or higher) Having a range like 8ms-25ms would result in ghosting in some colors and some not, while having a range of 12ms-18ms, it's not noticeable (well, barely if you focus hard enough).
 
I will give you some more general advice rather than recommend a specific model as it really depends on what matters to you most.

[*]MVA based monitors all better all-rounders than TN based ones[/li]
[*]Ignore the manufacturer's claims regarding response time, find some good reviews instead; preferably more than one.[/li]
[*]Do not give response time too much value. Currently on LCD screens ghosting is visible no matter what the response time is. As long as there is not a lot of it and it doesn't fluctuate much, you will get used to it and not even notice it after a while.[/li]

If you are going to be using your monitor for pretty much everything, including DVDs, pictures and office-type use, I would recommend finding a nice all around LCD screen with a stable response time of around 12ms and spending the extra cash elsewhere.
 
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