About to jump on the SERO plan.

fuzzybabybunny

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I really like the SERO plan for the data. I've already got a Mogul ready for use.

The latest Consumer Reports did a thing on cell phone plans. Sprint was consistently rated the WORST for dropped calls and coverage... I currently have Verizon, which was rated the best. Is Sprint really that bad?

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Ok, I'm confused. I'm trying to get the SERO plan, but it keeps asking for what phone I want to purchase along with the plan... I already have a Sprint Mogul that I got from eBay. I don't want to purchase a phone... can't I just purchase the plan by itself, port my number, and activate my Mogul?
 

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I've been on SERO for six weeks now, was Verizon for five years, all in metro areas of Ohio. I travel a bit, mostly to Detroit and Pennslyvania's boonies to visit relatives.

As far as CS goes, I ***never*** had to call Verizon CS. I have had to call Sprint CS a few times now, and its been hit or miss. I've dealt with the overseas guys, the North American guys, etc. My first issue was in getting the phone activated, which was less a Sprint issue than it was a Verizon issue (Verizon is notorious for being slow to port). Most of the people I dealt with were good, though I had one little fucking cuntrag in India try the 'you're breaking up trick' when he was obviously getting frustrated. Of course, I was calling from a landline, asked for his manager, and got a discount for that month. I talked with a few North American people on my next few daily checks and they were polite, but on the day the port went through, I was connected to India CS again. The girl I got there got me through activation seemlessly. I had a billing issue for the first month as well, the discount for a 2 year contract on my Mogul was applied to my first bill. The first lady I dealt with got me squared away and applied a $5 discount without me prompting (nice!). As far as dropped calls go, the only time I've dropped calls were in bumfuck nowhere Pennsylvania roaming on Alltel... whilst in some major valleys. Understandable. No one gets service out there anyways. In metro areas, even indoors, my signal has been acceptable. I've only noticed a few areas where signal is grossly different. Data coverage in Cleveland is excellent. Between metro areas, data is meh to decent, phone service is good if you start roaming, bad to decent if you aren't.

For CS, here's what I've come up with my gameplan:
-Make sure I'm calm beforehand
-Make sure I can accurately describe my problem beforehand
-Call from landline if at all possible (Overseas reps are notorious for the 'You're breaking up' line when they're clueless)
-Be polite
-If within two minutes, you can't get the CS rep (especially overseas people), ask to go up to the next level. Never ask for transfer to NA reps, they'll stonewall there.

I've found the discount totally worth it, especially with the awesome data. There's a lot of good software for the mogul, as well as working roms that fix BT issues. Once you're comfortable with the device, TINKER until its set up just the way you like
 

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I think its worth it. I switched from AT&T and the coverage is not as good. It is more noticeable inside of larger buildings, most irritating in walmart. The data is also hit or miss on the speed, but I think my phone(Moto Q) is partly to blame. But considering I am saving over $50 a month compared to the same plan on AT&T it is worth it.
 

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It really depends on your location. Dropped calls are often phone dependent. They are also the result of weak signal strength. I have been on Sprint now for over 5 years - travelled all over- Oregon to Ohio - and coverage has been excellent.

I asked a Sprint tech if there was any difference between phones and dropped calls. The answer was affirmative. He said that Sprint had fewer problems with Sanyo phones because they were made exclusively for Sprint, and did not have to have design compromises enabling them to work in other systems.

Anyway, I find that if I have 4-5 bars, I won't get a drop. With 2 bars or less, it is hard to even get a connection.
 

fuzzybabybunny

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Thanks for the input guys. The Consumer Reports thing really scared me rating Sprint the worst and all. But I think I'm going to jump on it because of the data.

A few more questions:

SERO has unlimited data. Is it REALLY unlimited? I plan to use my Sprint Mogul as a modem for my laptop when I travel, and I may be streaming video (youtube) or music (internet radio). I heard on the news about a guy getting charged like $100,000 for data on a supposedly unlimited data plan, although he was actually using it as his primary ISP and downloading entire movies and stuff.

How long does it take to port from Verizon to Sprint? Am I going to be without phone service for a week or something?
 

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunnySERO has unlimited data. Is it REALLY unlimited? I plan to use my Sprint Mogul as a modem for my laptop when I travel, and I may be streaming video (youtube) or music (internet radio).

Check it out carefully before committing. I found that you can have data or PCS, but not both on some phones. That is why I decided to go for the Sierra Merlin S720 connection card, EVDO with Rev. A. It is unlimited data but for $60/month. For me that is worth it.

I used phone as modem (PAM) a few years ago - and it was passable but not for heavy downloads - strictly text email.

My current Sprint phone can access the Internet, but I get dinged for charges everytime I do it. So, I stopped doing it. The air card in the laptop rules.

 

kedlav

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I've used my phone as a modem without issues. So long as you don't roam much on data, Sprint seems to be happy
 

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My company in Southern California uses sprint so I was asking my Boss about his coverage as I'm considering Sero too.

He said he hasn't really had beef with their coverage, and it's been superior more often than not to AT&T's. I use verizon so I'm in the same boat you are wondering what king of drop in quality I'll have. FWIW The little bit I've used a work cell phone (moto razr) It hasn't blown me away, but it hasn't been worse (or at least much worse) than my verizon handset.
 

blackangst1

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Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Thanks for the input guys. The Consumer Reports thing really scared me rating Sprint the worst and all. But I think I'm going to jump on it because of the data.

A few more questions:

SERO has unlimited data. Is it REALLY unlimited? I plan to use my Sprint Mogul as a modem for my laptop when I travel, and I may be streaming video (youtube) or music (internet radio). I heard on the news about a guy getting charged like $100,000 for data on a supposedly unlimited data plan, although he was actually using it as his primary ISP and downloading entire movies and stuff.

How long does it take to port from Verizon to Sprint? Am I going to be without phone service for a week or something?

Dont confuse CS with service. IMO, Sprint is the best out the. I've never had an issue in 8 years of service.

As far as SERO data goes...yes it is unlimited. I tap data every day for the most part whether it be for streaming Sprint TV, GPS/Google maps, internet browsing, whatever. Ive racked up a shitload of data, never had a bill over 32 bucks (Im on the 500/$30 plan).

It just cant be beat.
 

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The secret to dealing with Sprint's customer service is to ALWAYS email them. They are surprisingly responsive over email, and I've yet to get a clueless tech on it.

And their service kicks ass. If you need data, they're your best choice, no doubt about it.
 

zig3695

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yeah but ive been told in email to call them for the specific problem...

just remember- SPRINT CS SUCKS, but they will do what you need- just be patient. be NICE and patient. it pays off even if it takes two hours

ALSO ALWAYS USE THE SERO CS NUMBER not the regular sprint number. SERO CS- 1-888-882-4030
 

Svnla

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Funny thing, I just order one q9c from Sprint last Friday 12-21 and as of today 12-27, nothing yet, no phone nothing nada.

Not sure I want to keep Sprint. I am thinking about staying with ATT. Been with them for years, not unhappy but the SERO for $30/month (with Internet included) is a steal.
 

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Originally posted by: erwos
The secret to dealing with Sprint's customer service is to ALWAYS email them. They are surprisingly responsive over email, and I've yet to get a clueless tech on it.

And their service kicks ass. If you need data, they're your best choice, no doubt about it.

Exactly. I just got the SERO 500 plan and when I logged into my account it said I had the SERO 1250 plan. Great I get to deal with Sprint CS I thought. At the suggestion of people on another forum, I E-mailed E-care and within a couple hours, I had a reply apologizing for the problem and that I was switched to the proper SERO 500 plan I had ordered. Sure enough, I checked my account and it was switched.

I've only had SERO for a week in the DC/NoVa area but so far I love it. Surf the internet on my HTC Touch whenever I want, unlimited text messaging, good quality on a calls so far for just $30!
 

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no doubt SERO is a steal, but there is also no question that SPRINT is NOT implementing the plan well (i doubt they care). if you dont call the SERO support number, you will have problems.

also, Svnla, did you order online? online orders are NOT processed without a confirmation call! call SERO support now at 1-888-882-4030 and have your printed order receipt ready. dont get mad if they have no idea about your order, it was likely erased. trust me!
 

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Originally posted by: zig3695
no doubt SERO is a steal, but there is also no question that SPRINT is NOT implementing the plan well (i doubt they care). if you dont call the SERO support number, you will have problems.

also, Svnla, did you order online? online orders are NOT processed without a confirmation call! call SERO support now at 1-888-882-4030 and have your printed order receipt ready. dont get mad if they have no idea about your order, it was likely erased. trust me!

I ordered SERO online on the 26th and received my phone today. I did not have to call or anything. I had no problem setting it up online either, and the plan was correct.
 

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I have sprint and an older phone, and I gotta say, my wife's phone has the shittiest coverage, and dropped calls, but mine has awesome coverage, and I never drop calls.

I think its mainly the newer phones like razr katana etc with the shitty internal antennas, because every phone I've had is older w/extending antenna and I always got better signal than any of her last three phones.

I don't have sero, but my older plan is very good, and it costs like $30 a month (2 phones w/ unlimited data, text, n&w @ 7, sprint to sprint, etc...)
 

zig3695

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Originally posted by: sciencewhiz
Originally posted by: zig3695
no doubt SERO is a steal, but there is also no question that SPRINT is NOT implementing the plan well (i doubt they care). if you dont call the SERO support number, you will have problems.

also, Svnla, did you order online? online orders are NOT processed without a confirmation call! call SERO support now at 1-888-882-4030 and have your printed order receipt ready. dont get mad if they have no idea about your order, it was likely erased. trust me!

I ordered SERO online on the 26th and received my phone today. I did not have to call or anything. I had no problem setting it up online either, and the plan was correct.

thats great news. what email adress did you use to login to sero?

hopefully our experience was just a bad week to order or something then. both mine and my friends orders were completely changed after ordering online. it was a nightmare....
 

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Beware that SERO specifically says PAM (phone as modem) is not allowed.

I switched from AT&T in October and then moved my wife in November. As of yet I have spent more time fixing simple screwups from Sprint on moving my wife over, mine was simple as I was not doing anything "special". Here is the horror story on getting my wife set up. Called into the SERO center to order my phone as I wanted to port her 10yr old cell number over. She was looking at the Samsung upstage, knowing how small the phone was I had her go to the local sprint store to play around with it and she decided she wanted it, so that was the phone I ordered. After talking with the rep when I placed the order the phone was supposed be sent activated with a sprint number and then once we got it and played with it for a week we we call in and do the port. Problem 1, the phone arrived with the port already in process. The port also took a week to complete so during this time she had to carry both phones. We the upstage was crap, dropped calls, flipping only worked 90% of the time, menu key stopped working, so we called up CS to get an exchange. She wanted to go back to the razr (gasp) since this is what she used on AT&T and was used to it. They were supposed to send out the razr and then we would call in once we got it and activate the razr with the now ported#. After 3-4 days and no phone, was supposed to be sent over night, we call back and get the oh I am sorry you have to send the upstage back first and then we will send out the razr, OK first time I have ever heard it done this way, but we need the phone so we send the upstage back, send it on wednesday, they get it back into thier system on friday. come wednesday of the next week still no razr, again this was supposed to be overnight shipping. We call back in and are told, ever so friendly, they cancelled that account, upon getting the phone back. At this point I am furious as we have no phone, our 10 year old # is caught is limbo, AT&T is saying it is not in thier system and would need to be done as a port in to them now, Sprint says they number cannot ported out for 60 days. So off to the store I go. SERO or not I have to keep this number. In the store they were great, activated another line on the account and then started with the programming of the new phone with the ported number, but ran into a problem and had to call into the porting department, got the typical indian person and the sprint store rep even said "give me someone who speaks ENGLISH". The store reps were unanimous in saying that customer serviced being outsourced has made their jobs 1000 times worse and they spent most of thier days fixing their mistakes. Finally we got the number ported to a brand new red razr and all seemed well. Then we got Decembers bill. See when we sent the upstage back, the credited the sprint account $163.99 so my bill in November showed a credit of such on the account and that is what $52.50 of service was paid with. Since we had already paid for the razr in the store, which the manager only charged me $10.00 for I wanted my $161.99 that I had paid for the upstage back, well guess what, Sprint doesn't issue refunds back to credit cards was the story I got. After a little arguing about how absurd this was the finally sent a check for $109.49. This was the $161.99 - $52.50, OK now everything seems good. Phone are right, money is right, loving my centro and unlimited data. Then comes Decembers bill. On it we are showing a previous balance of $52.50, we are being charged a @26.00 activation fee for the line the had to activate to get our ported number back and a months service on that line. Had to call back in and get this all straigtened out. Another 2 hours of my time. I must admit on the last call I actually called the SERO support line instead of regular CS and it went alot smother. So as others have said always use them and not *2 or the regular CS #. After getting all this fixed my bill dropped to 48.15. I paid this but I am waiting on the surprise that will January's bill. I told the rep I still didn't think the bill was right as I have 2 phone on the @ $ 30.00 so my bill should have been around $65.00. He assured me it was right but we will see. Also they tried to deny the rebate on my centro and I had to call the rebate center to get that fixed. On that call I felt like I was back on AT&T, call was answered quickly, gentleman spoke very good english, understood the problem and had it resolved and expedited within 10 minutes. They denied my rebate saying my model was not eligible but when I told him the flyer they sent with the phone, had it listed as one of the models, he said it had to do with the phone being called the "Palm Centro" and the "Palm Treo 690" in different areas of the system. Coverage has been great for us. We actually get a signal in church and other building where we did not before with AT&T but the CS is severely lacking. Again other than the rebate my account has been flawless. My wifes has been all the problem. So I guess if you don't do anything "special" you should be ok. Beware that SERO specifically says PAM (phone as modem) is not allowed.
 

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Ok, I'm confused. I'm trying to get the SERO plan, but it keeps asking for what phone I want to purchase along with the plan... I already have a Sprint Mogul that I got from eBay. I don't want to purchase a phone... can't I just purchase the plan by itself, port my number, and activate my Mogul?
 

Svnla

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Originally posted by: zig3695
no doubt SERO is a steal, but there is also no question that SPRINT is NOT implementing the plan well (i doubt they care). if you dont call the SERO support number, you will have problems.

also, Svnla, did you order online? online orders are NOT processed without a confirmation call! call SERO support now at 1-888-882-4030 and have your printed order receipt ready. dont get mad if they have no idea about your order, it was likely erased. trust me!

The phone was delivered around 6 p.m. on Wed 12-26. I didn't have to do any calls. So far, so good but two problems. I created another thread and see if any of you can solve it.

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2136673&enterthread=y