about to go cast my vote! any last attempts to swing me?

[zanejohnson]

going dem straight ticket vote

(because i'd like to see Texas go blue)

 

[bfdd]

Well you could vote for someone who doesn't enjoy infringing on others and vote for Gary Johnson.

Do you support blowing up civies? NDAA or Patriot Act? Drug War? I mean I really don't see how someone who cares about others can vote for either Romney or Obama. They both represent their parties and not us the people.

 

[Steeplerot]

Would be awesome to see Texas go blue in my lifetime. Young Texans, take it back from the haters, Texas could/should be a leader to the south into the 21st century out of stone age/cold war idiocracy.

Who else can carry that heavy banner?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Would be awesome to see Texas go blue in my lifetime. Young Texans, take it back from the haters, Texas could/should lead the south into the 21st century out of stone age/cold war idiocracy.

When Ca wised up and goes red.

 

[soundforbjt]

"Corporations are people my friend."

 

[shortylickens]

Dont respond, zane is the 2nd or third biggest troll on this forum.
He either already voted, or wont be voting at all.

 

[Steeplerot]

When Ca wised up and goes red.

Oh, we will go red alright, before we would ever go that kind.

Keep dreaming comrade.

 

[bfdd]

Steeple I have such a hard time living here in California now. Born and raised here, I cannot handle the radical nanny statism and socialism. It is driving me mad.

 

[Steeplerot]

Steeple I have such a hard time living here in California now. Born and raised here, I cannot handle the radical nanny statism and socialism. It is driving me mad.

Funny, cant remember the last time any nanny came around here.

Did a cop pull you over or something? What is this big evil terrible thing you speak of?

 

[glenn1]

Oh, we will go red alright, before we would ever go that kind.

Keep dreaming comrade.

You'd be the first to the gulag.

 

[Vic Vega]

Gary Johnson.

 

[Arkaign]

Would be awesome to see Texas go blue in my lifetime. Young Texans, take it back from the haters, Texas could/should be a leader to the south into the 21st century out of stone age/cold war idiocracy.

Who else can carry that heavy banner?

Texas will in fact go blue, perhaps as soon as 2016, but almost certainly by 2020.

Reason?

Tons of old white people dying off + exploding hispanic population.

This is assuming the GOP doesn't adapt significantly in order to appeal more to hispanic voters (which are fairly diverse, but break more D in Texas by a good margin).

 

[Vic Vega]

Texas will in fact go blue, perhaps as soon as 2016, but almost certainly by 2020.

Reason?

Tons of old white people dying off + exploding hispanic population.

This is assuming the GOP doesn't adapt significantly in order to appeal more to hispanic voters (which are fairly diverse, but break more D in Texas by a good margin).

Texas already has millions of Latino voters who vote Republican - so does FL. I always laugh when it is assumed a Latino person will vote for the Democrats. They are consistently swing voters.

Of course, all you hear in the media is that Latinos vote for Democrats. The media is for stupid people, incapable of independent thought. Their game is, if they repeat something long enough, people decide it's true.

 

[bfdd]

Funny, cant remember the last time any nanny came around here.

Did a cop pull you over or something? What is this big evil terrible thing you speak of?

Public school. Ever since going through the indoctrination process and seeing that we force even more children to go through it. Disgusting. Or how about our crazy EPA? Or how about all stupid shit farming regulations you can't even import certain strawberries because they say no it might hurt our strawberry industry. Or how about how hard/expensive it is to start a legitimate business here. You think all those hot dog vendors in LA have business licenses or get inspected? Tons and tons of it. So much crap every step of the way. We mandate everyone has car insurance for fucks sake. While I'm glad people do have it, that fucks up and socializes PRIVATE insurance by putting us all on the dole. There's a lot of shit I can't stand is FORCED upon us, anything the State does in our "best interest" is something I classify as nanny state. I simply do not fit in politically here in the state because I believe a strong individuals create a strong collective. The reverse is the dominate mentality here.

 

[Steeplerot]

Public school. Ever since going through the indoctrination process and seeing that we force even more children to go through it. Disgusting. Or how about our crazy EPA? Or how about all stupid shit farming regulations you can't even import certain strawberries because they say no it might hurt our strawberry industry. Or how about how hard/expensive it is to start a legitimate business here. You think all those hot dog vendors in LA have business licenses or get inspected? Tons and tons of it. So much crap every step of the way. We mandate everyone has car insurance for fucks sake. While I'm glad people do have it, that fucks up and socializes PRIVATE insurance by putting us all on the dole. There's a lot of shit I can't stand is FORCED upon us, anything the State does in our "best interest" is something I classify as nanny state. I simply do not fit in politically here in the state because I believe a strong individuals create a strong collective. The reverse is the dominate mentality here.

And most of that mess is to benefit big private agribuisness/corporate monopolies, not some strawman government collectivization of farming/industry.

This is what happens when you let deregulation run amok for a few peoples interests, you get unsustainable corporate monopolies with nothing else better to do with all the money but buy out government to get themselves..even more money.

 

[shortylickens]

Texas already has millions of Latino voters who vote Republican - so does FL. I always laugh when it is assumed a Latino person will vote for the Democrats. They are consistently swing voters.

Of course, all you hear in the media is that Latinos vote for Democrats. The media is for stupid people, incapable of independent thought. Their game is, if they repeat something long enough, people decide it's true.

The GOP stopped pretending they would kick out illegals.
They were never planning to anyway, but for a while they were anti-illegal. When they realized their bullshit posturing was costing them votes, they cut it out.

 

[Arkaign]

Texas already has millions of Latino voters who vote Republican - so does FL. I always laugh when it is assumed a Latino person will vote for the Democrats. They are consistently swing voters.

Of course, all you hear in the media is that Latinos vote for Democrats. The media is for stupid people, incapable of independent thought. Their game is, if they repeat something long enough, people decide it's true.

Several things :

(1)- I never said that all hispanic voters will vote D.

(2)- Texas legislature, dominated by Republicans, has been frantically scrambling the districting to minimize Hispanic-concentrated areas. Why would they do that?

(3)- Younger Hispanics overwhelmingly vote D (statistics everywhere on this), and that's the bubble that's about to hit. There's a massive group of hispanic teens and tweens right now that will begin to hit the voting age in 2016 and especially 2020.

(4)- Republicans still have time to get their message changed a bit.

(5)- To make sure it's understood, hispanics are an incredibly diverse group of people.

I live in Texas, and I pay attention :

http://www.texastribune.org/texas-r...anics-at-heart-of-texas-redistricting-debate/

and bam :

http://www.nationaljournal.com/poli...igned-has-texas-hispanics-up-in-arms-20110819

and bam :

http://www.aflcio.org/Blog/In-The-S...Redistricting-Discriminates-Against-Hispanics

 

[Arkaign]

The GOP stopped pretending they would kick out illegals.
They were never planning to anyway, but for a while they were anti-illegal. When they realized their bullshit posturing was costing them votes, they cut it out.

I'm not sure.

Romney's message of "let's make it impossible for them to survive so they self-deport", to say nothing of the blatant fear-mongering during the GOP primaries, says that they still have a ways to go.

The logical part of me says that they're not dumb enough to continue to try to beat down hispanics though.

 

[Arkaign]

To put a bullet on it, the 2010 elections were a huge win for Republicans, but there is a warning sign in this :

http://pewresearch.org/pubs/1752/po...tions-support-democrats-weak-voter-motivation

Raw statistics speak volumes. I maintain that whomever captures the hispanic vote and raises voter enthusiam in heavily hispanic states will be doing the necessary steps to survive.



Now it's entirely possible that Hispanics in California and Texas will break for Democrats, and Republicans might make gains in Florida. Who knows. One can't ignore that the national-level politicans cannot make too many stupidly xenophobic statements without alienating millions and millions of voters in the most rapidly expanding voter group.

 

[Agent11]

Yea but he went on telemundo in brownface so that off sets his policies... Right?

 

[Theb]

Vote Cthulhu. Don't settle for a lesser evil.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Public school. Ever since going through the indoctrination process and seeing that we force even more children to go through it. Disgusting. Or how about our crazy EPA? Or how about all stupid shit farming regulations you can't even import certain strawberries because they say no it might hurt our strawberry industry. Or how about how hard/expensive it is to start a legitimate business here. You think all those hot dog vendors in LA have business licenses or get inspected? Tons and tons of it. So much crap every step of the way. We mandate everyone has car insurance for fucks sake. While I'm glad people do have it, that fucks up and socializes PRIVATE insurance by putting us all on the dole. There's a lot of shit I can't stand is FORCED upon us, anything the State does in our "best interest" is something I classify as nanny state. I simply do not fit in politically here in the state because I believe a strong individuals create a strong collective. The reverse is the dominate mentality here.

And yet you are still under the delusion that voting will change that. The very definition of insanity according to albert einstein.

 

[Phokus]

Voting for Mitt Romney is like voting for the mystery box :awe:

 

[NoStateofMind]

Voting for Mitt Romney is like voting for the mystery box :awe:

Obama isnt any different. You partisan hacks are all the same.

 

[shortylickens]

I'm not sure.

Romney's message of "let's make it impossible for them to survive so they self-deport", to say nothing of the blatant fear-mongering during the GOP primaries, says that they still have a ways to go.

The logical part of me says that they're not dumb enough to continue to try to beat down hispanics though.

Nope, they lied for a few years about planning to deport them. Then they just said fuck it, and recently started courting them.
I'm actually surprised Romney didnt suck up to them more. He could have had california and easily the election.
55 fucking electoral votes? Not to mention the rest of the country is fairly simple minded, many states tend to follow CA no matter what they do. The whole bandwagon and tag-along thing.