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Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: CPA
A hooker would be a lot less expensive.

A lot less expensive? Than $100? What fantasy world are you living in? Maybe if you get some $20 streetwalking skank that will give you the gift that keeps on giving, or worse. If you get a quality hooker, it'll cost you a lot more than a hundy.
 

PepePeru

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i'd buy 50 of the $2.00 ones at a single station.

I don't know why. Bigger prizes, I guess.

/shrug
 

BUTCH1

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Originally posted by: Led Zeppelin
Originally posted by: CPA
A hooker would be a lot less expensive.

A lot less expensive? Than $100? What fantasy world are you living in? Maybe if you get some $20 streetwalking skank that will give you the gift that keeps on giving, or worse. If you get a quality hooker, it'll cost you a lot more than a hundy.

Sounds like experience talking there! :)
 
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I'd rather spend $25 on booze and $75 on steak to celebrate. I think sratching card after card without winning anything would actually get kind of depressing.

Good luck though! :beer:

KT

Fixed.

Better yet, just buy a nice bottle of cognac. Sit in front of a fireplace swirling your brandy snifter and smoking a cheap cigar in your crushed velvet robe and think, "Who's the man? That's right, bitches, it's ME!"
 

Led Zeppelin

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Originally posted by: BUTCH1
Originally posted by: Led Zeppelin
Originally posted by: CPA
A hooker would be a lot less expensive.

A lot less expensive? Than $100? What fantasy world are you living in? Maybe if you get some $20 streetwalking skank that will give you the gift that keeps on giving, or worse. If you get a quality hooker, it'll cost you a lot more than a hundy.

Sounds like experience talking there! :)

LOL, no, I just browse Craigslist a lot in my spare time. :D
 

ondarkness

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Originally posted by: SpiderWiz
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Maverick2002
Originally posted by: SpiderWiz
Buy all $100 from one place.

I thought about that too. I wonder if I should spend all $100 on a single one though or spread it out over several cards. Probably a single one?
Sure, buy a single one. Get the disappointment over with early. :thumbsup:

They have $100 scratch offs? I was suggesting buy 100 of the $1 scratch offs. Buy the same kind also. Pic of the winning cards also.

I say buy $100 of the $5 ones

or fuck it and do a thou
 

acheron

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Originally posted by: ondarkness

I say buy $100 of the $5 ones

or fuck it and do a thou

I lost track of the thread and thought you were talking about hookers. Twenty $5 hookers FTW?
 
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Look up on your state lottery website which scratch off tickets still have the big prizes and buy those.

Also, don't bother w/ $1 tickets, go for at least $10 tickets. Hell I say you should buy 5 $20 tickets or higher denomination.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: Pacemaker
Originally posted by: Maverick2002
Originally posted by: Pacemaker
A good strategy would be to throw 20 dollars in the trash and keep the rest. This will probably save you money.

As for doing it for fun, I'd rather spend 100 bucks on something else.

that wasn't my question, and good for you

A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. How about a nice game of chess?

Well Played!

OP, since the odds are that you'll only win $7 for the $100 invested, I'll make you a deal. Send ME the $100 and I'll send you $15...more than doubling your winnings! :D
 

funkymatt

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Originally posted by: Injury
I know the strategy and it is called 3-7-5 and works 99% of the time. The hard part is convincing a cashier to do it for you as I'm sure it violates most state lotto policies, but whatever. Luck obviously has nothing to do with it.

You have to start out trying to figure out where in the pattern the current roll is... if you notice a roll of tickets has not been touched, start with those as it will be easiest, but still not "a sure thing".

Start off buying one ticket at a time. Scratch it, and repeat, one at a time until you find a winner. This starts the pattern. You might be able to determine where in the pattern you are if you don't have a winner after the first couple, but essentially every multiple of those numbers is a bigger winner. Every third ticket is a winner. This sounds great, but with most scratch-offs the "third" winner (as some people call it) maxes out at giving you your money back. A fifth winner is a minor prize but more than the cost of the ticket... ie on a $2-3 ticket it'll be about $5-$10. Maybe up to $20 on a $5 ticket. A Seventh winner is the big one. Without them you'll really only have about a 50% return on the entire roll. A seventh winner will net you about $20-$40 on a $2-$3 ticket. Now here's the best part. They combine. So every 35 tickets will have a ticket totaling anywhere from $25-$100.

The exact amount of each one is random, but it's based on a multiplier that coincides with the ticket price. For instance, a $2 ticket might have half of the thirds being for .5 times the cost, and half of them being 1 times the cost... and so on.

Here's the catch: The numbers don't start fresh with the roll, they start by the day the roll was made. So the start of a roll could be the 100th roll made in the day and you really have no idea what the roll starts on, so a fresh roll won't guarantee that the 35th & 70th tickets are big money.

The grand prizes are flukes, really. They make those rolls once or twice a month and randomly throw them in with other rolls. There is nothing as systematic as the rest of it involved, you really do just get lucky with the grand prizes (But it doesn't stop them from advertising the hell out of it!)

I had a buddy that worked for a scratch-off printing company and while he was ineligible to play (he could get jail time if turned in a ticket because they immediately have to suspect him) he would go with me to buy them on boring weekends and we'd work out to about 125% of our investment. The only thing that kept us from doing it all the time is that it's not only time consuming, but stores have a duty to turn people away if they think there is a gambling addiction involved! hahaha! Well, I guess that and the fact that it's not really a fast way to earn money.

i see what you did there
 

SirStev0

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Nov 13, 2003
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One of the kids in my high school robbed a gas station but only took lottery tickets. Wasn't caught until months later turning in a $20 winner he had lost and then found again. Apparently he made shit tons. They dropped the hammer on him.
 

Xavier434

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Oct 14, 2002
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Christ...can you asshats just let the man do what he wants to do with his money without enduring bucket loads of useless criticism that he is already very much aware of?
 

DrPizza

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Originally posted by: Injury
I know the strategy and it is called 3-7-5 and works 99% of the time. The hard part is convincing a cashier to do it for you as I'm sure it violates most state lotto policies, but whatever. Luck obviously has nothing to do with it.

You have to start out trying to figure out where in the pattern the current roll is... if you notice a roll of tickets has not been touched, start with those as it will be easiest, but still not "a sure thing".

Start off buying one ticket at a time. Scratch it, and repeat, one at a time until you find a winner. This starts the pattern. You might be able to determine where in the pattern you are if you don't have a winner after the first couple, but essentially every multiple of those numbers is a bigger winner. Every third ticket is a winner. This sounds great, but with most scratch-offs the "third" winner (as some people call it) maxes out at giving you your money back. A fifth winner is a minor prize but more than the cost of the ticket... ie on a $2-3 ticket it'll be about $5-$10. Maybe up to $20 on a $5 ticket. A Seventh winner is the big one. Without them you'll really only have about a 50% return on the entire roll. A seventh winner will net you about $20-$40 on a $2-$3 ticket. Now here's the best part. They combine. So every 35 tickets will have a ticket totaling anywhere from $25-$100.

The exact amount of each one is random, but it's based on a multiplier that coincides with the ticket price. For instance, a $2 ticket might have half of the thirds being for .5 times the cost, and half of them being 1 times the cost... and so on.

Here's the catch: The numbers don't start fresh with the roll, they start by the day the roll was made. So the start of a roll could be the 100th roll made in the day and you really have no idea what the roll starts on, so a fresh roll won't guarantee that the 35th & 70th tickets are big money.

The grand prizes are flukes, really. They make those rolls once or twice a month and randomly throw them in with other rolls. There is nothing as systematic as the rest of it involved, you really do just get lucky with the grand prizes (But it doesn't stop them from advertising the hell out of it!)

I had a buddy that worked for a scratch-off printing company and while he was ineligible to play (he could get jail time if turned in a ticket because they immediately have to suspect him) he would go with me to buy them on boring weekends and we'd work out to about 125% of our investment. The only thing that kept us from doing it all the time is that it's not only time consuming, but stores have a duty to turn people away if they think there is a gambling addiction involved! hahaha! Well, I guess that and the fact that it's not really a fast way to earn money.

It really depends on the particular scratch off ticket. For one particular scratch off game, someone somewhere in Asia had mathematically decoded what the process was for determining which tickets were winners based on serial numbers - how the state verifies that the ticket is valid. It's sort of like with credit card numbers - visa? mastercard? Based on the number alone, it can be determined which credit card company it belongs to.

People have to remember that it's only pseudo-random. One of the main reasons for this is to prevent fraud. (How hard would it be to forge scratch off tickets?) But, you wouldn't forge the grand prize winner, but people could forge tickets for the maximum value that could be paid out at convenience stores. All they'd need to do is print a ticket with 3 matching 7's to get $77 or whatever the goal/payout is of those things.

By purchasing 20 $1 tickets from 7 different stores (all with the same scratch off game), I was able to actually calculate the modular arithmetic necessary to figure out which tickets were winners. I didn't have many larger winners, but I found an arithmetic process which could be applied to the serial number to determine which tickets would be $2 winners. So, I marched right back to one of the convenience stores and purchased $20 more to see if my prediction would work. Yep. It worked perfectly. I had 5 $2 winners in the pile, and went 5 for 5 predicting. Essentially, I found a way to double my money.

Unfortunately, no one will sell tickets from the middle of the roll. If I worked at a convenience store, I'd be able to take advantage of this, but by the hour, it really wouldn't be worth it. Then again, I'd have access to the winning numbers of the bigger prizes. I'm pretty sure they would use the same method. All I'd have to do is search for the correct two prime numbers. (Hint, they're not that big of prime numbers; it took my computer only a week to run the algorithm I wrote to find the primes that yielded the solutions for the $2 winners.
 

music

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Me and 9 friends each put in $100, and I went and bought $1000 in scratch off tickets. Each ticket was $50. I wanted to buy all 20 tickets from the same place, but I had to go to 3 different places, since I couldn't find a store that had 20 available. The first place I went to, I think I bought $700 in tickets, and the guy behind me said, "You got some big balls." LOL.

We wound up only winning something like $1400. It was fun, but I wouldn't do it again.
 

TuxDave

Lifer
Oct 8, 2002
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Originally posted by: Fritzo
Yes: Get 100 $1 tickets (all the same ticket), then scratch them off in the following order:

2
4
8
16
32
64
1
3
9
18
36
72
6
12
24
48
96
......
*profit*

I prefer lining them all up in a row. Flipping all the ones multiple of 2. Flipping all the ones multiple of 3 (flipping both those that are face up and down) and so on until you only have 1 card face up. Then you scratch that one.

Then you take a random pile of 64 of of them and arrange them in an 8x8 square. Figure out which 8 could hold a queen without killing each other and then scratch those 8 off from left to right.

Then you get a friend to take a scratch off a hide it behind 3 doors, one of which has the scratch off and the other two contain nothing. You pick a door but don't open it and then your friend opens one of the other two that he knows contains nothing behind it leaving only 2 doors left. You then have a choice to switch to the other door and if the door you settle on still has a ticket behind it, you scratch that off...


 

skillyho

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Nov 6, 2005
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Originally posted by: Injury
I know the strategy and it is called 3-7-5 and works 99% of the time. The hard part is convincing a cashier to do it for you as I'm sure it violates most state lotto policies, but whatever. Luck obviously has nothing to do with it.

You have to start out trying to figure out where in the pattern the current roll is... if you notice a roll of tickets has not been touched, start with those as it will be easiest, but still not "a sure thing".

Start off buying one ticket at a time. Scratch it, and repeat, one at a time until you find a winner. This starts the pattern. You might be able to determine where in the pattern you are if you don't have a winner after the first couple, but essentially every multiple of those numbers is a bigger winner. Every third ticket is a winner. This sounds great, but with most scratch-offs the "third" winner (as some people call it) maxes out at giving you your money back. A fifth winner is a minor prize but more than the cost of the ticket... ie on a $2-3 ticket it'll be about $5-$10. Maybe up to $20 on a $5 ticket. A Seventh winner is the big one. Without them you'll really only have about a 50% return on the entire roll. A seventh winner will net you about $20-$40 on a $2-$3 ticket. Now here's the best part. They combine. So every 35 tickets will have a ticket totaling anywhere from $25-$100.

The exact amount of each one is random, but it's based on a multiplier that coincides with the ticket price. For instance, a $2 ticket might have half of the thirds being for .5 times the cost, and half of them being 1 times the cost... and so on.

Here's the catch: The numbers don't start fresh with the roll, they start by the day the roll was made. So the start of a roll could be the 100th roll made in the day and you really have no idea what the roll starts on, so a fresh roll won't guarantee that the 35th & 70th tickets are big money.

The grand prizes are flukes, really. They make those rolls once or twice a month and randomly throw them in with other rolls. There is nothing as systematic as the rest of it involved, you really do just get lucky with the grand prizes (But it doesn't stop them from advertising the hell out of it!)

I had a buddy that worked for a scratch-off printing company and while he was ineligible to play (he could get jail time if turned in a ticket because they immediately have to suspect him) he would go with me to buy them on boring weekends and we'd work out to about 125% of our investment. The only thing that kept us from doing it all the time is that it's not only time consuming, but stores have a duty to turn people away if they think there is a gambling addiction involved! hahaha! Well, I guess that and the fact that it's not really a fast way to earn money.

LOL. Nice!
 

tfcmasta97

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I'd rather spend $75 on booze and $25 on steak to celebrate. I think sratching card after card without winning anything would actually get kind of depressing.

Good luck though! :beer:

KT

No, that just means hes getting closer to the jackpot! dont you know anything about gambling?
 

iamwiz82

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Jan 10, 2001
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Originally posted by: tfcmasta97
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
I'd rather spend $75 on booze and $25 on steak to celebrate. I think sratching card after card without winning anything would actually get kind of depressing.

Good luck though! :beer:

KT

No, that just means hes getting closer to the jackpot! dont you know anything about gambling?

And what exactly do you have left after finishing the booze and steak? Nothing. I don't get the arguement.
 

manowar821

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What a god damn scam. It's like income tax, but instead of just laying down and taking it in the ass, they literally drive someplace and ask to pay it.