About that free Quran...

[magomago]

I think one of the main problems in the United States is that people equate Islam and Quran with terrorism. As if to be a follower of the religion, you need to worry. Comments that explicity state to "watch out for the FBI because you ordered a Quran" are ridiculous and basically amount to the FBI supressing religion.
What I do not understand is why people see CAIR distributing Qurans as "OMG TEHY ARE TEH EBILLLL!!! THEREFORE THE BOOK IS AS WELL!!".
Feirydemise makes a VERY good point.


And I have noticed one thing among people here (this is coming mainly from the initial thread where people were advocating burning the Quran...and people from this thread as well, but you don't have to be religious to hate religion as seen here) is that there is an intense hatred for the Quran.....and I can't find this same hatred for the Gospel or Torah from Muslims. Apparantly many Muslims I have met actually RESPECT the books, despite the fact that they do not beleive in it. I'm currently visiting friends that have loads of Jehovah's Witness's pamphlets, A few copies of the Bible because of people going door to door, yet they respect it and keep it. They don't toss it in the trash, they don't claim that it can make great firewood, instead they disagree with it but they do not damage or harm it. It just sits in the back of the closest. This goes with the same for my family; my parents also have such stuff (even technologically advanced Christians have given us multimedia ) yet we do not disrespect it despite the fact that we disagree with most of it.

I think the first step for us to make is to learn to RESPECT Islam. Disagree with it, do not follow what it says, eat pigs every night, get drunk at a party...but have the dignity to not say "Let us burn this sh|t"

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: magomago
I think one of the main problems in the United States is that people equate Islam and Quran with terrorism. As if to be a follower of the religion, you need to worry. Comments that explicity state to "watch out for the FBI because you ordered a Quran" are ridiculous and basically amount to the FBI supressing religion.
What I do not understand is why people see CAIR distributing Qurans as "OMG TEHY ARE TEH EBILLLL!!! THEREFORE THE BOOK IS AS WELL!!".
Feirydemise makes a VERY good point.


And I have noticed one thing among people here (this is coming mainly from the initial thread where people were advocating burning the Quran...and people from this thread as well, but you don't have to be religious to hate religion as seen here) is that there is an intense hatred for the Quran.....and I can't find this same hatred for the Gospel or Torah from Muslims. Apparantly many Muslims I have met actually RESPECT the books, despite the fact that they do not beleive in it. I'm currently visiting friends that have loads of Jehovah's Witness's pamphlets, A few copies of the Bible because of people going door to door, yet they respect it and keep it. They don't toss it in the trash, they don't claim that it can make great firewood, instead they disagree with it but they do not damage or harm it. It just sits in the back of the closest. This goes with the same for my family; my parents also have such stuff (even technologically advanced Christians have given us multimedia ) yet we do not disrespect it despite the fact that we disagree with most of it.

I think the first step for us to make is to learn to RESPECT Islam. Disagree with it, do not follow what it says, eat pigs every night, get drunk at a party...but have the dignity to not say "Let us burn this sh|t"

It's sad that some people have enough hatred in them to be perfectly fine desecrating a religion's holy book. They act as if the Qur'an personally offends them. People live their lives the Qur'an and most of those people aren't terrorists. They're just decent people trying to live out their lives. I'm sure people advocating the burning of the Qur'an wouldn't like it if a Muslim advocated burning something they cherished. That's completely disrespectful even as a joke. Terrorism has about as much to do with Islam as abortion bombings have to do with Christianity.

There is nothing wrong with taking an interest in a religion that over a billion people practice and also has quite an impact on world politics these days. It would be retarded to ignore it.

Learn to respect and tolerate people; it'll make you a lot happier in the end.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: kogase
So a while ago somebody posted a topic about sending away for a free copy of the Quran. It sounded interesting to me, so I signed up, but I didn't think I'd ever actually get one. Many months have passed, and I had completely forgotten about it, when what do I see arrive at my doorstep but a heavy package from the "Council an American-Muslim Relations". I open it to find a massive text book. I didn't think the Quran was so long, but it turns out this copy has the English translation, the original Arabic, and the Arabic transliteration to the Roman alphabet. Anyway, I thought it was interesting, and I'll definitely take some time to gain some actual knowledege of the literal word of Allah. Did anyone else order and recieve one?

It should make good firewood. :thumbsup:

Not only are you a right-wing hack, you're a bigot as well.

How is that bigotry? What purpose does a Quran serve a non believer?

Besides, I enjoy being called a right wing hack and a bigot by a left wing lunatic

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: kogase
So a while ago somebody posted a topic about sending away for a free copy of the Quran. It sounded interesting to me, so I signed up, but I didn't think I'd ever actually get one. Many months have passed, and I had completely forgotten about it, when what do I see arrive at my doorstep but a heavy package from the "Council an American-Muslim Relations". I open it to find a massive text book. I didn't think the Quran was so long, but it turns out this copy has the English translation, the original Arabic, and the Arabic transliteration to the Roman alphabet. Anyway, I thought it was interesting, and I'll definitely take some time to gain some actual knowledege of the literal word of Allah. Did anyone else order and recieve one?

It should make good firewood. :thumbsup:

Not only are you a right-wing hack, you're a bigot as well.

How is that bigotry? What purpose does a Quran serve a non believer?

Besides, I enjoy being called a right wing wack and a bigot by a left wing lunatic

I suppose you could read the Quran to learn more about the true religion. Sorta like reading the bible for me. Personally everything from both texts are so damn over-analyzed that I get confused, especially being agnostic.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: kogase
So a while ago somebody posted a topic about sending away for a free copy of the Quran. It sounded interesting to me, so I signed up, but I didn't think I'd ever actually get one. Many months have passed, and I had completely forgotten about it, when what do I see arrive at my doorstep but a heavy package from the "Council an American-Muslim Relations". I open it to find a massive text book. I didn't think the Quran was so long, but it turns out this copy has the English translation, the original Arabic, and the Arabic transliteration to the Roman alphabet. Anyway, I thought it was interesting, and I'll definitely take some time to gain some actual knowledege of the literal word of Allah. Did anyone else order and recieve one?

It should make good firewood. :thumbsup:

Not only are you a right-wing hack, you're a bigot as well.

Heh, I thought that was pretty funny. I don't expect to actually get much enlightenment out of the Quran anyway (as evidenced in my wording "the literal word of Allah"). What is written in the books is sort of irrelevant. What is relevant is what the majority of the so called followers believe. Very similar to Christianity. In fact, exactly the same as Christianity.

Dude, there's plenty of value in many religious texts. People are just morans and glance over everything they read. Lets take high school for example, a class of 30 students learned Western History in the course of a year.

In my personal opinion I will agree that the Bible is overrated but it's not entirely useless either. I'll will admit there's a little bit more too it than a couple good quotes and that there is a maybe a chapter or two that does have some more philosophical vaule.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: kogase
So a while ago somebody posted a topic about sending away for a free copy of the Quran. It sounded interesting to me, so I signed up, but I didn't think I'd ever actually get one. Many months have passed, and I had completely forgotten about it, when what do I see arrive at my doorstep but a heavy package from the "Council an American-Muslim Relations". I open it to find a massive text book. I didn't think the Quran was so long, but it turns out this copy has the English translation, the original Arabic, and the Arabic transliteration to the Roman alphabet. Anyway, I thought it was interesting, and I'll definitely take some time to gain some actual knowledege of the literal word of Allah. Did anyone else order and recieve one?

It should make good firewood. :thumbsup:

Not only are you a right-wing hack, you're a bigot as well.

How is that bigotry? What purpose does a Quran serve a non believer?

Besides, I enjoy being called a right wing hack and a bigot by a left wing lunatic

Bigtory is the act of prejudice person being intolerant of any opinions differing from there own. You're implying that Quran should be burned, that Islam is somehow useless. Not to mention your previous posts don't speak of muslims highly.

What purpose does the Quran server a non-beilever? I just want to know what is says...

As for me being a left-wing hack, some days I do feel am I a bit over the line but my fiscial conservativism keeps me in check.

 

[Agrooreo]

Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

 

[killershroom1985]

Just got mine and was surprized as well by its size! This thing would cost upwards of $40 in a bookstore. Hardcover, color pictures, good stuff for an agnostic looking for a religion

Anyone know where I can find more free religious books? A good bible, torah, something on buddhism maybe?

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

No, that was the mossad dressed up as Arabs. You know they do that when they aren?t busy beheading Americans in Iraq.:laugh:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Links to such reports?

 

[BBond]

I asked a Muslim I did business with for a copy of the Qu'ran many years ago. He graciously provided me a copy and refused anything in return. He wouldn't even take and offering for his Mosque. He said it was already taken care of.

I still have it. I haven't read it in its entirety as I have the Bible. I will have to do so someday soon.

 

[BBond]

PS I wonder if Bush will have the NSA spying on me while I read it...

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Are you talking about the video that Fox News played? Wasn't that from like 1996?

But I do agree that it is disrespectful to do that. That doesn't make it any more right to burn a sacred religious text. Your argument is a non-sequitor really.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: killershroom1985
Just got mine and was surprized as well by its size! This thing would cost upwards of $40 in a bookstore. Hardcover, color pictures, good stuff for an agnostic looking for a religion

Anyone know where I can find more free religious books? A good bible, torah, something on buddhism maybe?

Now that's a person that knows how to think, instead of being a straight down racist like raildog and his assistants here on this thread and others trying to get away with insulting a relegion that has over a billion people following it.

For you that have ordered the Quran / tried to learn more about Islam by any other method don't stop there, look at other relegions too, try to understand others from how they look at their relegion, Hinduisim and Budhisim are very intresting too, we have a big number of Jews here in the states reading the Torah is a good idea too.

For all of you out there, just try to be more logical and open minded, don't take what the media is giving you for granted, invistegate and open you eyes and ears, go to the source and try to get your information from there, such readings are crucial when you need to determine if what someone have done is according to his relegion or was it according to his own agenda.

Finally God bless all of you who are trying to act more civilized than others, and trying to ascend in the paths of knwoledge & exploration and not in the paths of ignorance and hatered.

 

[Meuge]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

It's sad that some people have enough hatred in them to be perfectly fine desecrating a religion's holy book. They act as if the Qur'an personally offends them. People live their lives the Qur'an and most of those people aren't terrorists. They're just decent people trying to live out their lives. I'm sure people advocating the burning of the Qur'an wouldn't like it if a Muslim advocated burning something they cherished. That's completely disrespectful even as a joke. Terrorism has about as much to do with Islam as abortion bombings have to do with Christianity.

There is nothing wrong with taking an interest in a religion that over a billion people practice and also has quite an impact on world politics these days. It would be retarded to ignore it.

Learn to respect and tolerate people; it'll make you a lot happier in the end.

In most countries where Islam is the dominant religion, desecrating the Qu'ran will earn you a painful death.

While in theory it may have been the religion of peace, it now has become the quintessence of everything that's wrong with religious fundamentalism. I mean even people living in the Western countries (like some members of the board, who shall remain nameless) advocate physically hurting (punishing, in their words) or killing of people who desecrate the Qu'ran.

Islam isn't unique in that its fundamentalism causes suffering, but it just happens to be the dominant source of religious violence in the world right now. Christianity certainly had its day... but that was centuries ago. I think it's time for a Reformation and Enlightenment in the Muslim world as well.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: techs
I'm not crazy. Of course I didn't order one. I don't want to end up on a NoFly list or have my phone wiretapped.
Really, I think you would need to pretty naive to think the Feds don't know you ordered that book and that you are now in a 'threat' category on some secret government lists.

Seriously. Buying a Quran in America is terrarrism and means you hate free-dumb(tm) and the troops. If Kogase stops posting, we'll know why.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: conjur
I got my copy a month or so ago. Right before I went to China. Hmm...is that two strikes against me? And, yeah, that's a thick book!

Are you kidding? The Neo-cons LOVE China! Where else would they get loans for their imperialistic adventures?

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: Meuge

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

It's sad that some people have enough hatred in them to be perfectly fine desecrating a religion's holy book. They act as if the Qur'an personally offends them. People live their lives the Qur'an and most of those people aren't terrorists. They're just decent people trying to live out their lives. I'm sure people advocating the burning of the Qur'an wouldn't like it if a Muslim advocated burning something they cherished. That's completely disrespectful even as a joke. Terrorism has about as much to do with Islam as abortion bombings have to do with Christianity.

There is nothing wrong with taking an interest in a religion that over a billion people practice and also has quite an impact on world politics these days. It would be retarded to ignore it.

Learn to respect and tolerate people; it'll make you a lot happier in the end.

In most countries where Islam is the dominant religion, desecrating the Qu'ran will earn you a painful death.

While in theory it may have been the religion of peace, it now has become the quintessence of everything that's wrong with religious fundamentalism. I mean even people living in the Western countries (like some members of the board, who shall remain nameless) advocate physically hurting (punishing, in their words) or killing of people who desecrate the Qu'ran.

Islam isn't unique in that its fundamentalism causes suffering, but it just happens to be the dominant source of religious violence in the world right now. Christianity certainly had its day... but that was centuries ago. I think it's time for a Reformation and Enlightenment in the Muslim world as well.

I wholeheartedly agree. Many people put themselves on the level of god and think they should be the judge of a person's religious misdoings. That's obviously contrary to what their religion teaches. Christian nations did it for over a thousan years and Muslim nations are doing it now. I really couldn't tell you why. It has something to do with poverty but that can't be the entire reason.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Are you talking about the video that Fox News played? Wasn't that from like 1996?

But I do agree that it is disrespectful to do that. That doesn't make it any more right to burn a sacred religious text. Your argument is a non-sequitor really.

What part of "it was a joke" do you not understand?

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Are you talking about the video that Fox News played? Wasn't that from like 1996?

But I do agree that it is disrespectful to do that. That doesn't make it any more right to burn a sacred religious text. Your argument is a non-sequitor really.

What part of "it was a joke" do you not understand?

I understand that you meant it as a joke. It was in bad taste obviously.

The problem is that many people would see no problem with burning the Qur'an. Also, you pointed to where it's disrespectful to dance in the streets about 9/11 as if that was some sort of justification for disrespecting the Qur'an. Those are two different events that don't have anything to do with each other really. Person A disrespecting one thing doesn't make it okay for Person B to disrespect something of Person A's.

 

[The Linuxator]

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Are you talking about the video that Fox News played? Wasn't that from like 1996?

But I do agree that it is disrespectful to do that. That doesn't make it any more right to burn a sacred religious text. Your argument is a non-sequitor really.

What part of "it was a joke" do you not understand?

I understand that you meant it as a joke. It was in bad taste obviously.

The problem is that many people would see no problem with burning the Qur'an. Also, you pointed to where it's disrespectful to dance in the streets about 9/11 as if that was some sort of justification for disrespecting the Qur'an. Those are two different events that don't have anything to do with each other really. Person A disrespecting one thing doesn't make it okay for Person B to disrespect something of Person A's.

You understand it was meant as a JOKE!!
It's an insult to all Muslims and I believe if this was a "joke" about some other relegion he would have been banned hard and everyone would be cursing his name, but hey since it's the fad to insult Mulims nowadays especially on this forum then he will get a couple of winks here and there and maybe a laugh from here and a LMAO from there.

What can I say, it's not fair, it's insulting and it's especially stupid and no it was not intended as a joke, we all know the racist intentions behind it, yet not much spoke out against it, and even if it was a "joke" I don't see how it is fit to be a joke, unless insulting 1 billion people + is a joke for you guys then I don't see the logic in it.

This forum is getting so racist against Muslims and Arabs beyond I would have ever imagined, it makes me want to puke, how people decide to turn a blind eye towards such things.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Links to such reports?

???

 

[HombrePequeno]

Originally posted by: The Linuxator

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: HombrePequeno

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Are you talking about the video that Fox News played? Wasn't that from like 1996?

But I do agree that it is disrespectful to do that. That doesn't make it any more right to burn a sacred religious text. Your argument is a non-sequitor really.

What part of "it was a joke" do you not understand?

I understand that you meant it as a joke. It was in bad taste obviously.

The problem is that many people would see no problem with burning the Qur'an. Also, you pointed to where it's disrespectful to dance in the streets about 9/11 as if that was some sort of justification for disrespecting the Qur'an. Those are two different events that don't have anything to do with each other really. Person A disrespecting one thing doesn't make it okay for Person B to disrespect something of Person A's.

You understand it was meant as a JOKE!!
It's an insult to all Muslims and I believe if this was a "joke" about some other relegion he would have been banned hard and everyone would be cursing his name, but hey since it's the fad to insult Mulims nowadays especially on this forum then he will get a couple of winks here and there and maybe a laugh from here and a LMAO from there.

What can I say, it's not fair, it's insulting and it's especially stupid and no it was not intended as a joke, we all know the racist intentions behind it, yet not much spoke out against it, and even if it was a "joke" I don't see how it is fit to be a joke, unless insulting 1 billion people + is a joke for you guys then I don't see the logic in it.

This forum is getting so racist against Muslims and Arabs beyond I would have ever imagined, it makes me want to puke, how people decide to turn a blind eye towards such things.

Calm down. The reason I understood it as a joke was because he said so not because I initially read it and laughed about it. It was a poorly done joke that wasn't really funny at all. Insulting Muslims isn't generally what goes on in P&N. I don't really see where you get that from. Sure, there are a few bad apples that say some questionable things about Muslims but overall that isn't the case.

I don't really see why he should be banned for it. I've seen a lot worse things said about Christianity and Judaism that nothing was done about.

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: ntdz

Originally posted by: Agrooreo
Right on thanks for the link. Just ordered one myself. Figure I should be able to get through the King James version of the Holy Bible again before it gets here. Definately interested in what this has to say about Islam and everything else. Islam has gotten a horrible rap lately.

I also agree that it is extremely disrespectful to burn anything considered sacred for any religion. If you dont like it or dont agree with it, why not just let it be? Is that so hard? Or do you have to talk about burning it so you can supress something and try and win "brothers in belief" due to default since they only had a bible to read?

Well, what I said was intended as a joke...

However, it's also highly disrepectful to dance in the streets when a tragedy like 9/11 hit us. Don't tell me Muslims in the Middle East didn't do that...

Links to such reports?

???

I'm not gonna bother looking something up that both of us know happened.