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LW07

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I don't think I'm going to be able to use memtest. It just is too hard to use. Recommend me another ram testing utility that does not involve bootable CDs or iso images and that can be run on windows.
 

LW07

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Originally posted by: LW07
Here's my question. Three weeks ago, I ran Prime 95 and failed the test in 7 seconds at PC 3200 speeds. My ram is this:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820146970
and My latency timings were 3-3-3-7. Last night, I had a BSOD that said something about IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL, which is supposed to be ram related issues, from what I hear. After a little research, I reduced the speeds to PC 2700 and the timings to 3-3-3-8. I ran Prime 95 again. This Time, it went for 1 hour and 20 minutes with absolutely no errors(I stopped Prime 95 myself because I had to get stuff done) and I'm wondering, did my reducing the ram speeds make my computer more stable in that area and will it stop my IRQL NOT LESS OR EQUAL BSOD problems and make my system more stable, since now prime 95 goes alot better than at the PC 3200 speeds? I was running Prime 95 with the option with the most ram testing, by the way. The system seems more responsive, also, but what I'm interested in is will this make my system more stable or will I still have to go out and replace the ram?

I really need this question to be answered because I don't want to be complacent with my ram and it still not be stable.

I think that I'll just run Prime 95 until 9 and see what happens there.


BTW, in this topic, I was asking how good the ram was based on Prime 95. I wasn't asking for ram testing utilities like memtest. So, how well would you say my stablility is based on 5 hours of Prime 95?
 

Matthias99

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Originally posted by: LW07
BTW, in this topic, I was asking how good the ram was based on Prime 95. I wasn't asking for ram testing utilities like memtest. So, how well would you say my stablility is based on 5 hours of Prime 95?

First: STOP POSTING EVERY FIVE MINUTES. Bumping your own threads that rapidly is not allowed. Use the "edit" button if you need to modify your posts.

Second: The IRQL_LESS_OR_EQUAL message is something else entirely, and has nothing to do with the sort of tests Prime95 is running. It's probably ALSO being caused by memory corruption, but they're not directly related.

Third: To run memtest, you have to burn the ISO file as an *image*. There's an option in Nero to do it. Just burning the file to a CD-R won't give you a bootable CD.

Fourth: I'd suggest running memtest and Prime95 for 12-24 hours to really be sure the system is stable. However, given that you made it through 4-5 hours without a problem, you're probably fine. There's no way to ever be 'sure', because you can never know if it might have failed had you let the program run a little longer.
 

LW07

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I didn't know that posting that rapidly wasn't allowed. Sorry. As you can tell, I'm a noob to these forums. I guess you're right. I'll stop bumping my post every 5 minutes. I guess it actually hurts my quest for answers rather than helps it when I post all the time.
 

LW07

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I used a program called ISO recorder to get it burned onto the CD. This is ISO recorder: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/v2.htm

I used it to create an image of the ISO file, and on the blank CD, it now shows a folder that says BOOT and when I click it, it has 2 things in it. An icon of some papers wrapped with a yellow binding that says BOOT or whatever it is and another Icon with a paper with a CD on top that says MEMTEST. Did I do it right this time?
 

LW07

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I finally have run memtest86 like you guys told me 2. I ran it for 4 hours and a half with absolutely NO errors. It passed the test seven times. I finally got bored and stopped it, so now that I have done my part in running memtest 86, can you answer my question of ram stability?
 

LW07

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I now believe that I'm OK now. I posted something about my test in another forum and one guy there said that it was good.
 

PurdueRy

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Seeing as it passed memtest...that looks good...have you read your mobo manual to see if a certain slot combination only supports DDR333? There are some that do that.
 

LW07

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Don't know. I'm getting this thing upgraded in march. I can't decide on a Dual Core processor from the X2 line. The 3800+ is out of the question. I'm debating with myself whether to get a 4200+, 4400+, 4600+, or 4800+. I am not going to overclock. Could you rank those 4 processors from most recommended to least recommended? I'm keeping my mobo, switching my PSU to a PC Power and Cooling 510, Getting an Antec Solution SLK3000B Case with a Radeon X1900XT and an asus DVD drive. I'm also thinking about getting 2 seagate 120GB hard drives(2 just in case 1 arrives DOA.)
 

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If you're not OCing then you really do want to reconsider the PCP&C, it's capable of supplying huge amounts of power with very tight tolerances, but you just don't need it for a non OC'd computer at all.

As to the more important CPU quesiton the bigger the number the better it performs obviously. Having said that it does depend on what you do with your computer, most non gaming apps don't see much improvement from the increased cache of the 4800 and 4400, so if you're just doing photoshop (which i think does not use the cache) then the 4600 would be best. As an aside to that the best value for money or bang/buck CPU is the 3800X2, after that the performance increase is not comesurate with the price increase.

Asus DVD drive, why?

I'd just get one larger HD, the chances of a DOA drive is real, but small and the single drive option would be cheaper and faster.
 

LW07

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I mainly play games on this and multitask with multiple Firefox windows. I want the PCP&C for future upgrades so that I won't have 2 switch the PSU out every upgrade and my PSU's(an Antec True Power 550W II) rails are 11.43v for 12v and -7v on the -12v and I don't think that'll run a X1900XT well.
 

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Originally posted by: LW07
I mainly play games on this and multitask with multiple Firefox windows. I want the PCP&C for future upgrades so that I won't have 2 switch the PSU out every upgrade and my PSU's(an Antec True Power 550W II) rails are 11.43v for 12v and -7v on the -12v and I don't think that'll run a X1900XT well.

thanks for wasting my time
 

Bobthelost

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What, you're going to connect a second computer to the PSU in addition? If you're not overclocking then a good 350W PSU could probably handle it including a few more HD's thrown into the mix. A 450W fortron for $50 will power it with ease, the 510W PCP&C would be like buying a F1 race car to take your kids to school, a complete misuse of it and your money. (of course the 5 year warranty is nice)

Also ignore the motherboard voltage monitoring software, it's useless.

The TP2 is a slightly older design, with a much lower 12V rail supply than good current designs do, but still more than capable of handling that system.
 

LW07

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i got the voltages from everest home edition and have no meter nor have teh knowledge to use one. I wish I could afford to get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116246
Since it is a dual core processor AND has HT, so I'd effectively get 4 3.46ghz CPUs which would help tremendously in multitasking and gaming since HT gives you 2 CPUs and Dual Core would give you 2 more CPUs for a total power of 4 processors on the CPU die. Think About it. Running FEAR, Quake 4, Call of Duty 2, and Pacific Fighters at the same time with smooth framerates.:D
 

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Originally posted by: LW07
i got the voltages from everest home edition and have no meter nor have teh knowledge to use one. I wish I could afford to get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116246
Since it is a dual core processor AND has HT, so I'd effectively get 4 3.46ghz CPUs which would help tremendously in multitasking and gaming since HT gives you 2 CPUs and Dual Core would give you 2 more CPUs for a total power of 4 processors on the CPU die.:D

That's not how it works
 

LW07

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Well, HT gives you a virtual CPU core. So on each Core, you have HT, so you have 2 real cores and 2 virtual cores, so that gives you 4 total cores. Of course, not all can have that dream fullfilled so quickly yet, so out of the 4200+, 4400+, 4600+, and 4800+, which one should I go with. I'm NOT going with the 3800+. Or should I keep my 3500+?