About freaking time #CarryonShame

[SSSnail]

http://blog.sfgate.com/travel/2014/06/05/time-to-smack-down-carry-on-offenders/

This is something I support, public shaming of douche bags. This along with the d-bags that sit in the back of the plane, but stuff their gigantic carry-ons in the front of the plane.

So, do your part when you see these d-bags.

 

[Markbnj]

Screw that. Start with the people who park in the fire lane at the grocery store because they "just have to run in for one quick thing."

 

[JulesMaximus]

A few years ago I was flying from Albany, NY to San Diego and had 2 layovers IIRC. I was coming home from my Dad's funeral and I had a guitar with me which definitely does not conform to the airline rules for carry on bags but nobody gave me any grief about it. It fit fine in the overhead bins on all but one flight on a small plane from LAX to San Diego which I allowed them to check at the gate. It was my Dad's guitar so there was no fucking way I was checking it.

But yeah, generally speaking, I totally support this. If I'm traveling somewhere and I need to pack more shit than I can fit in a carry on bag I'll pay the $40 and check a bag. Christ, you're flying a couple thousand miles for less than $300, don't be such a tightwad. Pay the $40 and check your luggage.

 

[Anubis]

A few years ago I was flying from Albany, NY to San Diego and had 2 layovers IIRC. I was coming home from my Dad's funeral and I had a guitar with me which definitely does not conform to the airline rules for carry on bags but nobody gave me any grief about it. It fit fine in the overhead bins on all but one flight on a small plane from LAX to San Diego which I allowed them to check at the gate. It was my Dad's guitar so there was no fucking way I was checking it.

But yeah, generally speaking, I totally support this. If I'm traveling somewhere and I need to pack more shit than I can fit in a carry on bag I'll pay the $40 and check a bag. Christ, you're flying a couple thousand miles for less than $300, don't be such a tightwad. Pay the $40 and check your luggage.

musical instruments always get a pass and I think everyone is OK with that, the ones that don't fit overhead are kept up front in the closet

what I don't understand is why more people don't gate check bags if they are paranoid about checking them the normal way

 

[K1052]

I was on a flight from LAS a few weeks ago and the plane was full of guys coming back from a convention. They were not shy about voicing their opinions loudly about the few morons trying to squeeze obviously oversize luggage into the bins. They actually clapped for one guy who spent the better part of 5 minutes at it....holding up the whole boarding process. These people should be shamed publicly. It would be better if airlines enforced their sizing more often and didn't even let them board until they gate check it.

 

[Exterous]

It would be better if airlines enforced their sizing more often and didn't even let them board until they gate check it.

:thumbsup: It would be interesting to see them actually measure 'Personal items' as well

I also don't buy 'Its the airlines charging for checked bags thats doing this' line either. I've had the misfortune of flying 14 Southwest segments this year and people still try to bring too much to the cabin and jam obviously oversized 'carry-on's' into the overhead bin. Coming back from Nashville the lady boarding A <30 couldn't fit the bag in the bin so she made everyone wait while she unloaded random crap from pockets so she could shove it in, the whole time ignoring the flight attendant announcements to get out of the aisle. This from the airline that lets you check 2 bags for free...

 

[Printer Bandit]

why are airlines charging for checked bags? are they that poor?

next thing you know, we'll have to pay to use the restroom.

 

[EliteRetard]

I have a medium sized rectangular duffle that I know is exactly the right dimensions, and a square cloth lunch box that exactly fits the dimensions for a personal item (and it fits perfectly under even the tight seats). I specifically purchased them that way, $15 for the duffle and $10 for the "lunch box". I can fit 3 months worth of supplies in those two bags.

I have no idea how/why people need so much s**t for a few days/weeks.
Then morons that spend $200+ on hard case luggage that weighs 20lbs empty...lol.

 

[SearchMaster]

I was worried about getting shamed yesterday. My son and I were flying to a baseball tournament and he had a proper carry-on plus his baseball backpack. The backpack was barely full and would easily stuff under his seat...except for the helmet. I was thinking at worst they might give him a gate tag but no one said anything. As it turns out the flight was about 80% full so it was a non issue.

Am I an asshole? Maybe, but I wasn't about to voluntarily pay $25 each way, plus the added luggage carousel headaches, because of a damn baseball helmet.

There's always the return flight.

I hadn't flown in a few years so I was happy to see they terminated the idiotic shoe removal process though.

 

[halik]

What's the problem if the luggage fits in the overhead rack? I've got a resizable carry on that generally doesn't fit the stupid template at the gate, but I've yet to have issues fitting it above the seat.

 

[Ryland]

Those bags look to be about the same size as my bag which fits within the carry on sizer thing and easier fits within the overhead luggage rack.

 

[Exterous]

I hadn't flown in a few years so I was happy to see they terminated the idiotic shoe removal process though.

They didn't you just likely got into the Pre-Check line and, since you haven't flown in a while, probably made all the frequent fliers wait while you figured out what you were supposed to do

Kidding...

Maybe. I don't know. I'd have to be behind you in the line to know if I am kidding or not

What's the problem if the luggage fits in the overhead rack? I've got a resizable carry on that generally doesn't fit the stupid template at the gate, but I've yet to have issues fitting it above the seat.

A lot of people bring bags that don't fit in the sizer but 'do fit' in the overhead. And by do fit I mean fit sideways taking up a lot more space than it should meaning that on a full flight thats one to two more bags to be gate checked for every sideways bag in an overhead*

*Small regionals like the CRJs or 717s excluded because I just assume that those will be unavoidable baggage clusterfucks

 

[Fritzo]

Screw that. Start with the people who park in the fire lane at the grocery store because they "just have to run in for one quick thing."

The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

The white zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the red zone.

The red zone is for immediate loading and unloading of passengers only. There is no stopping in the white zone.

No, the white zone is for loading of passengers and there is no stopping in a RED zone.

The red zone has always been for loading and unloading of passengers. There's never stopping in a white zone.

Don't you tell me which zone is for loading, and which zone is for stopping!

Listen Betty, don't start up with your white zone shit again.

There's just no stopping in a white zone.

Oh really, Vernon? Why pretend, we both know perfectly well what this is about. You want me to have an abortion.

It's really the only sensible thing to do, if its done safely. Therapeutically there's no danger involved...

 

[SunnyD]

http://blog.sfgate.com/travel/2014/06/05/time-to-smack-down-carry-on-offenders/

This is something I support, public shaming of douche bags. This along with the d-bags that sit in the back of the plane, but stuff their gigantic carry-ons in the front of the plane.

So, do your part when you see these d-bags.

Isn't that the job of the airline staff at the gate to watch and force people with shit like that to check their bags? Yeah... thought so.

Screw that. Start with the people who park in the fire lane at the grocery store because they "just have to run in for one quick thing."

Perhaps if the store hired a towing company to have a wrecker on site or the had a local cop cruising the lot regularly, it wouldn't be a problem. And it would be extra revenue for the town.

 

[Exterous]

Isn't that the job of the airline staff at the gate to watch and force people with shit like that to check their bags? Yeah... thought so.

And they often do - esp for bags that are obviously not 'personal items'. Then we all have to wait while the person argues with the gate agent, tries to get it on board because their keys\wallet\medicine is in the bag, berates the gate agent because it is the gate agents fault for charging for checked bags etc etc. The airline staff watching for bags does not preclude douchbaggery on the part of the passenger

A lot of them also take advantage of the fact that you don't pay for gate checked bags and game the system. Sure 'thats the airlines fault' but I could only imagine the horror that would happen if a large number of people who brought oversized bags were forced to gate check AND pay the fee.

Flying in the US is very different than other areas. Americans tend to crankily barge on the plane and bumble about with their oversized carryons and a 'me only' mentality as they stand in the aisle and bash fellow passengers in the face with backpacks\straps\purses. Certianly not as bad as some areas but I vastly prefer the experience in certain European areas. I hear Japanese\Korean flights are even better

 

[Newell Steamer]

I HATE flying.

The airlines are indifferent to the passengers (delayed flights, sitting on the runway for hours, missing connections, wacky cancellation policies).

And, passengers can be total animals.

There was one shit head who was sitting near a girl that ended up getting sick on the decent of the flight. He just kept going ON and ON about how he can't stand the smell of vomit (which was contained and sealed in a bag) - and, that was fine. It bothers him. And his irritation can be understood.

But, when the doors finally open and we all start moving, this fucking asshole does NOT move and proceeds to tell the girl; "You've been a bad girl, for shame." I then get really close to his face and tell him; "You've been complaining about this for the past 4 minutes, there is no reason for you to stand here and continue like this,... move on and stop being a douche."

His fat little self scurried off shaking his head.

 

[Markbnj]

Perhaps if the store hired a towing company to have a wrecker on site or the had a local cop cruising the lot regularly, it wouldn't be a problem. And it would be extra revenue for the town.

I'm pretty sure in the future this will be handled by cameras and towbots.

 

[Jeff7]

I was worried about getting shamed yesterday. My son and I were flying to a baseball tournament and he had a proper carry-on plus his baseball backpack. The backpack was barely full and would easily stuff under his seat...except for the helmet. I was thinking at worst they might give him a gate tag but no one said anything. As it turns out the flight was about 80% full so it was a non issue.

Am I an asshole? Maybe, but I wasn't about to voluntarily pay $25 each way, plus the added luggage carousel headaches, because of a damn baseball helmet.

There's always the return flight.

I hadn't flown in a few years so I was happy to see they terminated the idiotic shoe removal process though.

I haven't seen this, even at the small municipal airports.
Shoes, coats, jackets, belts, and all pocket contents have to go on the conveyor. Then through the metal detector, or the body-scanner at the large airports, and you're on your way.

The airport here is definitely nice though. Small airport, and if you're at the wrong gate, you're almost certain to be within earshot of the correct one. (If you're not sure, you can just look for the gate that is loading passengers.)
It's usually less than 5 minutes from walking to the front door to arriving at the gate post-security.

I HATE flying.

The airlines are indifferent to the passengers (delayed flights, sitting on the runway for hours, missing connections, wacky cancellation policies).

"Weight restrictions." I think half the flights I've been on this past year or so have had weight restrictions, and were asking for volunteers.
In one case, I got bumped. Only after they gave me a voucher did I have a chance to read the pamphlet. (They had to rush the bumped passengers, which was 10 people bumped from a 37-passenger plane, over to an alternate flight that was preparing to leave.) If you volunteer to be bumped, you get a voucher. If you are selected involuntarily though, you have the right to ask for cash. They sure as hell won't offer that option though, nor make any mention of it. And once the voucher's signed, you've waived the right to the cash.

The more you know...

And, passengers can be total animals.
...

No doubt there.
One flight, a guy's walking down the aisle, and one flight attendant had to yell to him to watch his bag. He was bumping everyone in the head as he walked along.

Maybe the X-ray scanners irradiate brain cells to death.


And yes, you'll have idiots yelling at the worker who's attempting to enforce the rules, acting like a large and abrasive toddler.

 

[monkeydelmagico]

"public shaming" has no context or meaning when there is absolutely no shame. I predict a cult following that will do everything in their power to be the "star" of this little social experiment.

 

[Newell Steamer]

If you are selected involuntarily though, you have the right to ask for cash. They sure as hell won't offer that option though, nor make any mention of it. And once the voucher's signed, you've waived the right to the cash.

The more you know...

Holy crap!

Thanks for this!!

 

[SearchMaster]

They didn't you just likely got into the Pre-Check line and, since you haven't flown in a while, probably made all the frequent fliers wait while you figured out what you were supposed to do

Kidding...

Maybe. I don't know. I'd have to be behind you in the line to know if I am kidding or not

Heh - I think you were half right. My son was apparently set for Pre-Check and TSA told me to stay with him - I didn't know what she meant when she said "just stay with him in Pre-Check - Lane 1".

I didn't slow anyone down though

Shoes will probably come back off for the return trip. I used to fly 4 or 5 times a year but haven't had to in a few years. I don't miss it a bit.

 

[Jeff7]

Holy crap!

Thanks for this!!

At least that's what the policy says at US Airways. I don't know if that's law, or just their thing.
And there are some conditions. If they can arrange alternate transportation that gets you to the destination within 1hr of the flight's original scheduled time, then there's no compensation.

A. Voluntary
US Airways will offer volunteers on flights between U.S. points (including Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands and Canada), a transferable voucher dollar discount that can be applied towards purchase of one ticket anywhere US Airways flies.

B. Involuntary
US Airways will offer a choice of one of the following types of compensation to customers denied boarding involuntarily on flights between U.S. points (including Puerto Rico and U.S. Virgin Islands and Canada):

• A transferable voucher for a dollar discount that can be applied towards purchase of one ticket to anywhere US Airways flies, or at the passenger's choice,

• Cash compensation with the amount depending on the price of each passenger's ticket and the length of his or her delay.

• If US Airways can arrange alternate transportation that is scheduled to arrive at the passenger's destination within 1 hour of the planned arrival time of the oversold flight, no compensation is required. If the alternate transportation is scheduled to arrive between one and two hours for domestic transportation after the planned arrival time of the oversold flight, the compensation equals 200% of the passenger’s one&#8722;way fare to his or her next stopover or final destination with a $650 maximum.

• If US Airways cannot meet the two-hour deadline for domestic transportation, the compensation rate doubles to 400% of the passenger's one-way fare with a $1300 maximum. This compensation is in addition to the value of the passenger’s ticket which he or she can use for alternate transportation or have refunded if not used.

Yeah..."US Airways will offer a choice of one of the following types of compensation..."


No, they will offer you a voucher and hope you don't read the fine print.

 

[K1052]

:thumbsup: It would be interesting to see them actually measure 'Personal items' as well

I also don't buy 'Its the airlines charging for checked bags thats doing this' line either. I've had the misfortune of flying 14 Southwest segments this year and people still try to bring too much to the cabin and jam obviously oversized 'carry-on's' into the overhead bin. Coming back from Nashville the lady boarding A <30 couldn't fit the bag in the bin so she made everyone wait while she unloaded random crap from pockets so she could shove it in, the whole time ignoring the flight attendant announcements to get out of the aisle. This from the airline that lets you check 2 bags for free...

14 WN segments...you poor bastard. I do about 2-3 a year out of 70-80 and that seems like too many. Someone once suggested that I take an 8 plus hour trip from PBI to LAX (stopping in ATL) on WN because it was $40 cheaper than flying direct on AA (where I have status). I think I melted them with my glare.

 

[Aikouka]

When I first saw this thread, I thought it was in regard to all those stupid "Keep Calm and ___ On" memes. Man, I've seen some really dumb uses for that meme...!

why are airlines charging for checked bags? are they that poor?

next thing you know, we'll have to pay to use the restroom.

Most airlines don't charge for the first checked bag.

At least based upon things I know from work done on other things (that I won't be talking about on here), you do not always fill up aircraft to the brim with fuel. In regard to the ability to take any stationary object and move it from A to B, it takes more energy to do so if said stationary object has more mass. Fuel may be what makes us go, but it also has mass. If I had to guess, airlines work out how much fuel they need based on formulas and data from statistics when correlated with passenger information.

I recall reading that one company stopped allowing a free checked bag and now charges, but if I had to guess, that's because they made their tickets cheaper. In other words, instead of charging everyone $200 for a ticket, they now charge $150 + $50 for a checked bag. Although, while it helps make their airfare prices seem cheaper, it also probably hurts them because they don't get that extra bit of money from people without checked luggage. A plane flying from A to B has a fixed cost (relatively, things such as wind speed/direction and weather affect this), and sometimes, an airline can't recoup this because of low ticket sales for a flight. I've been on a flight before with maybe a 30% fill rate, which was probably in danger of being cancelled. It's probably cheaper for the airline to host the 30% in local hotels and combine them with a later flight.

 

[alkemyst]

Speak up instead of propping up online crap.

I was heading to Total Wine last weekend and some Man-Bitch was parking in front of a Micheal's (fabrics?) store in the MIDDLE of the lanes. I pulled upside and asked can he pull it in more and drove off. Then he fucking yelled "FUCK YOU!". I reversed right up to his door and said some silly things. After my purchase, he was parked in his car still in a normal space.