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Megatomic

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As much as I like to eat meat, I can't stand to watch that stuff. Truly, ignorance is bliss. :(
 

Kipper

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Clearly an outlier, but if you're concerned about this (many are) buy your meat from purveyors you trust (e.g. local). Problem solved.
 
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Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.
 
Mar 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

Livestock/food product that is raised/slaughtered in the US that must follow FDA regulations that is consumed by the majority of US households to a luxury item produced outside of the US with no procurement/import regulations.

And not all buyers of pork products buy diamonds.
 
Mar 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

Livestock/food product that is raised/slaughtered in the US that must follow FDA regulations that is consumed by the majority of US households to a luxury item produced outside of the US with no procurement/import regulations.

And not all buyers of pork products buy diamonds.

Huh? So we're fighting on the same side and you're saying my comparison is terrible? I'm saying that you are more likely to get a product tainted with inhumane tendencies through buying a diamond than when compared to buying a meat product. People buy diamonds without a second thought while many people have political views when it comes to meat acquiring practices. That was the analogous flow. It makes sense. And I believe that the regulation makes meat products that much more likely to be well-handled... so either we're on the same side or you're making an awkwardly phrase argument.
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

Livestock/food product that is raised/slaughtered in the US that must follow FDA regulations that is consumed by the majority of US households to a luxury item produced outside of the US with no procurement/import regulations.

And not all buyers of pork products buy diamonds.

Huh? So we're fighting on the same side and you're saying my comparison is terrible? I'm saying that you are more likely to get a product tainted with inhumane tendencies through buying a diamond than when compared to buying a meat product. People buy diamonds without a second thought while many people have political views when it comes to meat acquiring practices. That was the analogous flow. It makes sense. And I believe that the regulation makes meat products that much more likely to be well-handled... so either we're on the same side or you're making an awkwardly phrase argument.

No, you're making an awkwardly phrased argument. Not worth debating further.
 
Mar 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

Livestock/food product that is raised/slaughtered in the US that must follow FDA regulations that is consumed by the majority of US households to a luxury item produced outside of the US with no procurement/import regulations.

And not all buyers of pork products buy diamonds.

Huh? So we're fighting on the same side and you're saying my comparison is terrible? I'm saying that you are more likely to get a product tainted with inhumane tendencies through buying a diamond than when compared to buying a meat product. People buy diamonds without a second thought while many people have political views when it comes to meat acquiring practices. That was the analogous flow. It makes sense. And I believe that the regulation makes meat products that much more likely to be well-handled... so either we're on the same side or you're making an awkwardly phrase argument.

No, you're making an awkwardly phrased argument. Not worth debating further.

Hahaha, thank you, Internet, for some of the vaguest, elitist comments ever.
 

xboxist

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Jun 25, 2002
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There is nothing more in this world that disgusts me more than these videos of redneck, piece of shit, 42-I.Q., soulless humans doing unmentionable things to animals. At least put the beasts out of their misery with haste, and not left to die on the floor in utter agony. Cocksuckers.
 

conorvansmack

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Originally posted by: xboxist
There is nothing more in this world that disgusts me more than these videos of redneck, piece of shit, 42-I.Q., soulless humans doing unmentionable things to animals. At least put the beasts out of their misery with haste, and not left to die on the floor in utter agony. Cocksuckers.

I've watched Meet Your Meat before, I wasn't able to see this one since it's filtered at work. I have a hard time believing that every animal that is killed for food is killed in this way. These farms need efficiency in their process and Meet Your Meat didn't show much of that. I'm hoping this is an anomaly, but it definitely suppresses my appetite for a while.
 

MrMatt

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Mar 3, 2009
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

the video shows the 3rd largest meat producer.....that's not anecdotal.
 
Mar 22, 2002
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Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

the video shows the 3rd largest meat producer.....that's not anecdotal.

That's surprising considering I've never heard of this company before. How do they determine that this company is such?
 

Capt Caveman

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Jan 30, 2005
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

the video shows the 3rd largest meat producer.....that's not anecdotal.

That's surprising considering I've never heard of this company before. How do they determine that this company is such?

Google
 

MrMatt

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Mar 3, 2009
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Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: MrMatt
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: SociallyChallenged
Clearly there are going to places that don't abide by the rules. Does that mean even a small percentage act in this way? The evidence supplied by these types of organizations is anecdotal and relies solely on the pathos type of argument. If only 5% or less of the meat suppliers in the US had activities like this, would you deem it unacceptable to eat meat at all? You should feel worse about buying a diamond in America since the % that it is essentially a blood diamond are higher than 5%.

Horrible comparison.

Would you like to explain why? It is analogous since these organizations make the comparison all about being humane. It's a logical comparison.

the video shows the 3rd largest meat producer.....that's not anecdotal.

That's surprising considering I've never heard of this company before. How do they determine that this company is such?


SociallyChallenged: Meat Industry Insider.
 

RoloMather

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Hmmm there got to be more efficient ways of killing but I guess not. The problem is how is my chosing Veg. going to help these animals at all?