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Abortions in state lowest in 30 years

Riprorin

Banned
Lyons of Wisconsin Right to Life cited three factors, including an increase in young people she described as "pro-life."

"Young people are very, very different from their predecessors . . . they just have values that center more than just around themselves," she said.

Lyons also credited anti-abortion commercials that emphasize that having a child won't ruin a young woman's life, and a 1998 state law requiring most women seeking an abortion to see a doctor and then wait 24 hours before having the procedure done.

Another factor, said Marquette University political science professor and Constitutional law expert Christopher Wolfe, is public debate in recent years over issues such as the so-called partial-birth abortion. Because of the debate, people in their 20s are "less in favor of broad abortion rights than middle-age people," he said.

Abortions in state lowest in 30 years

This trend is appearing in other states too.

Clearly, young people are rejecting the radical abortion views of the far-left. The partial-birth abortion issue seems to have galvinized the views of many young people.
 
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"We feel that the reduction in abortions can be directly attributed to improved access to birth control and responsible sex education," said Boyce of Planned Parenthood.

Another possible factor, Boyce said, is the introduction of dozens of contraception options in recent years. At one time, only condoms, intrauterine devices (IUDs) and one type of birth control pill were available, she said.

Alta Charo, a professor of law and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, said increased availability of birth control likely is the major reason for fewer abortions. But she said studies also suggest other reasons, including an improving economy resulting in fewer abortions.
Considering this is comparing 2004 to 1980, I'd say that's likely the answer. Sorry, Rip. You just defeated your own attempt at trolling.


Oh, btw,
Among Wisconsin residents, the rate in 2004 was nine abortions per 1,000 women ages 15 to 44. The national rate was 16 in 2001, the most recent year for which national figures were available. That compares with Wisconsin's rate of nine in 2001.
Hmm...been the same during the whole of this administration.

Also, appears Wisconsin is aging.
http://dwd.wisconsin.gov/oea/articles/populationgrowth_0304.htm
Migration trends rely on many factors that are hard to predict, such as changing tastes and comparative economic conditions. Future migration predictions are limited in their specificity.

Non-metropolitan Wisconsin will see a greater share of its population heading toward ages historically associated with retirement, and will see fewer youths coming down the pipeline to replace them. Some employers may have to step up recruitment and training efforts. Employers failing to address these issues may find it more difficult to keep up with competitors in more populated areas of Wisconsin, other states and other countries. Metropolitan Wisconsin?s urban hubs will see a smaller pool of inbound commuters from neighboring rural counties.

Oh, not to mention the fewer overall births in Wisconsin (again, likely due to increased usage of birth control options)
http://dwd.wisconsin.gov/oea/articles/images/0304article5.gif
 
an increase in young people she described as "pro-life."

LMMFAO! Thanks for the early morning laugh! You are good for something once in a while. Kill all babies is my motto. They poop too much and smell funny.
 
Originally posted by: umbrella39
an increase in young people she described as "pro-life."

LMMFAO! Thanks for the early morning laugh! You are good for something once in a while. Kill all babies is my motto. They poop too much and smell funny.
That was a good one, eh?

I suppose the overall decline through the 1990s (when the economy was booming), was due to more "pro-life" youths being born, too! :laugh:
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5212a1.htm
 
Originally posted by: umbrella39
an increase in young people she described as "pro-life."

LMMFAO! Thanks for the early morning laugh! You are good for something once in a while. Kill all babies is my motto. They poop too much and smell funny.

You're apparently unaware of the growing spiritualism among young people. It's been reported rather heavily in the mainstream press.
 
Other states have shown similar record declines in the number of abortions.

The number of abortions performed on Kansas women has declined 10% since 1996 and abortions in Kentucky have been steadily dropping for more than a decade with 3,502 in 2002 and 9,590 in 1991.

New statistics in the state of Illinois show a whopping 10 percent drop in the number of abortions performed last year. The new numbers take the state to its lowest number of annual abortions in thirty years.

Since 1988, abortions have dropped a whopping 53 percent in South Carolina. After peaking at 8,814 in 1991, the number of abortions in 2002 in Mississippi fell to just 3,605.

Link
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: umbrella39
an increase in young people she described as "pro-life."

LMMFAO! Thanks for the early morning laugh! You are good for something once in a while. Kill all babies is my motto. They poop too much and smell funny.

You're apparently unaware of the growing spiritualism among young people. It's been reported rather heavily in the mainstream press.

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These are some of the key findings of a survey conducted last fall of 112,232 freshmen attending 236 colleges and universities. The study, carried out by UCLA's Higher Education Research Institute (HERI), also analyzes how varying degrees of spirituality and religiousness translate into differences in students' political and social attitudes, psychological and physical well-being, and religious preference.

Some of the findings include:

80% are interested in spirituality
76% are searching for meaning/purpose in life
74% have discussions about the meaning of life with friends
81% attend religious services
80% discuss religion or spirituality with friends
79% believe in God
69% pray

Link
 
Happier than most here it seems.

I can't find it, but I recall that there was a poll in OT about depression. More than half the respondents said that they were depressed, and the majority of those had actually been diagnosed with depression by a physician.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
These are some of the key findings of a survey conducted last fall of 112,232 freshmen attending 236 colleges and universities. The study, carried out by UCLA's Higher Education Research Institute (HERI), also analyzes how varying degrees of spirituality and religiousness translate into differences in students' political and social attitudes, psychological and physical well-being, and religious preference.

Some of the findings include:

80% are interested in spirituality
76% are searching for meaning/purpose in life
74% have discussions about the meaning of life with friends
81% attend religious services
80% discuss religion or spirituality with friends
79% believe in God
69% pray

Link
LOL... let me point out some things about those percentages:

81% attend religious services but only 80% are interested in spirituality AND only 79% believe in God AND only 69% pray. :shocked:

Oh, and from your link:
Despite their strong religious commitment, today's students are very tolerant of the non-religious. More than eight in ten (83%), for example, say "non-religious people can be just as moral as religious believers," and nearly two-thirds (64%) say that "most people can grow spiritually without being religious."
 
Despite their strong religious commitment, today's students are very tolerant of the non-religious. More than eight in ten (83%), for example, say "non-religious people can be just as moral as religious believers," and nearly two-thirds (64%) say that "most people can grow spiritually without being religious."

Cool. I have no problem with growing spirituality or fewer abortions, in fact if that makes people happy, I'm glad.

Rip, you can't be happy. No one who has so many people he considers enemies can be really that happy. You could learn something from those young people you keep bringing up.

Edit: Just to point something out, instead of simply making a thread about how it's great that fewer abortions are happening, you had to turn in into a slam against the "radical left". This is what I'm talking about.
 
Looks around...
Yup the kids are still screwing. Must be the condoms, and BJs.

I'm glad the numbers are down but not exactly for the same reason you are Rip.
 
Originally posted by: judasmachine
Looks around...
Yup the kids are still screwing. Must be the condoms, and BJs.

I'm glad the numbers are down but not exactly for the same reason you are Rip.

Good point. Actually, all sarcasm aside, I suspect better sex-ed (NOT that crap the religious right is pushing) is a big reason for this.
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin

"Young people are very, very different from their predecessors . . . they just have values that center more than just around themselves," she said.

In other words, because their savage primative religious beliefs, they might be stupid and altruistic and decide to have a child when they really can't afford one, making it difficult if not impossible to complete a college degree and/or an advanced degree and condemning themselves to a life of being lower middle class?

Lyons also credited anti-abortion commercials that emphasize that having a child won't ruin a young woman's life, and a 1998 state law requiring most women seeking an abortion to see a doctor and then wait 24 hours before having the procedure done.

I can't imagine that the 24 hour waiting period law would prevent a rational woman from doing what she believed to be was in her own rational selfish interest.

Of course, some people with low IQs might be persuaded by TV commercials to evade the reality of their economic situations and futures and go on to have children. It is possible to breed yourself into poverty. Darwin at work I guess. Sadly, those same people tend to instill their religious insanity into their children, eventually outbreeding the rational people. Perhaps they'll have us return to being god-fearing and living in caves one day.

Another factor, said Marquette University political science professor and Constitutional law expert Christopher Wolfe, is public debate in recent years over issues such as the so-called partial-birth abortion. Because of the debate, people in their 20s are "less in favor of broad abortion rights than middle-age people," he said.

I wish we could pass a law to make those who oppose legal abortion pay for the costs of having abortion be illegal. Let's make all the good Christians pay for all of the financial costs of unwanted children.

Since I'm an atheist who strongly supports legal abortion, can I get a tax cut for government expenses that are tied to taking care of poor children? Shouldn't the Christians pay for the costs of their own religious insanity?

 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I should be used to it by now, but I still find it rather odd that the leftists get so upset over good news.

I'm not a leftist at all. However, as an atheist and advocate of reason, I find it very disturbing. How long until the U.S. devolves into a Christian theocracy--a Christian Iran?

Where will the advocates of reason and the secular people go to live? Where will we go to escape the Christian insanity? (I don't want to have to forsake all of my wordly possessions, abandon reason and the creations of reason, and live in a cave.) Canada, Australia, New Zealand?

 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Other states have shown similar record declines in the number of abortions.

The number of abortions performed on Kansas women has declined 10% since 1996 and abortions in Kentucky have been steadily dropping for more than a decade with 3,502 in 2002 and 9,590 in 1991.

One stat no one has reported yet is, what about the number of illegitimate births and the numbers of children born into poverty? Have those numbers also decreased? If they increased, might there be a relationship between the decrease in the number of abortions and the increase?
 
Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I should be used to it by now, but I still find it rather odd that the leftists get so upset over good news.

I'm not a leftist at all. However, as an atheist and advocate of reason, I find it very disturbing. How long until the U.S. devolves into a Christian theocracy--a Christian Iran?

Where will the advocates of reason and the secular people go to live? Where will we go to escape the Christian insanity? (I don't want to have to forsake all of my wordly possessions, abandon reason and the creations of reason, and live in a cave.) Canada, Australia, New Zealand?


China, North Korea?
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I should be used to it by now, but I still find it rather odd that the leftists get so upset over good news.
I guess that confirms that I am not really a leftist. I think this is great news. It's fantastic that responsible sex education and better access to birth control are bringing down abortion rates.

It does seem a little odd that you so vocally oppose the things that bring abortion rates down. Think of all the women and unborn who would have been hurt had your hateful, un-Christian agenda prevailed.
 
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