Abortion: Right or Wrong?

[datalink7]

So, with all the threads being posted around here that are basically rehashes of the same thing over
and over, I thought I'd introduce a topic that I feel hasn't really been discussed.

Really, I am in a bit of wonderment as to why such a huge issue hasn't found more discussion time, and am
curious as to why this is?

And please keep this at an intellectual level. No flames.

So, without further ado, let the great minds of this forum converse

Maybe something constructive will come from this.:thumbsup:

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Morally or Legally?
Basically what are the rules for being "wrong" or "right"?

CkG

 

[conjur]

To me, a woman getting an abortion (unless her life is in danger or, maybe, in the case of a rape) is the most selfish, self-centered, pathetic action a person can do.

But, since Roe v. Wade made it legal, there's no going back. I'd prefer to not return to back-alley abortions putting more and more women in danger.

 

[charrison]

Originally posted by: conjur
To me, a woman getting an abortion (unless her life is in danger or, maybe, in the case of a rape) is the most selfish, self-centered, pathetic action a person can do.

But, since Roe v. Wade made it legal, there's no going back. I'd prefer to not return to back-alley abortions putting more and more women in danger.

I would agree, but I think parental notification for minors should be required and late term abortions outlawed.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur
To me, a woman getting an abortion (unless her life is in danger or, maybe, in the case of a rape) is the most selfish, self-centered, pathetic action a person can do.

But, since Roe v. Wade made it legal, there's no going back. I'd prefer to not return to back-alley abortions putting more and more women in danger.

I would agree, but I think parental notification for minors should be required and late term abortions outlawed.

I'd like to see anything beyond the first trimester be illegal. If after three months a woman hasn't decided, then tough luck (unless some physical condition threatens her life or a miscarriage is imminent.)

 

[Todd33]

Right or wrong? In an ideal world, we'd have only emergency abortions. But this is the real world. Mistakes happen and children get pregnant. Either we have them legally or in back alleys. Smoking and drinking are in the same catagory. Making them illegal would cause more problems then regulating them.

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: datalink7
So, with all the threads being posted around here that are basically rehashes of the same thing over
and over, I thought I'd introduce a topic that I feel hasn't really been discussed.

Really, I am in a bit of wonderment as to why such a huge issue hasn't found more discussion time, and am
curious as to why this is?

And please keep this at an intellectual level. No flames.

So, without further ado, let the great minds of this forum converse

Maybe something constructive will come from this.:thumbsup:

 

[Taggart]

For me there really isn't "right" or "wrong" if it involves the rights of a woman to decide what she does with her own body. I support banning partial birth abortion, though.

 

[Kipper]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: datalink7
So, with all the threads being posted around here that are basically rehashes of the same thing over
and over, I thought I'd introduce a topic that I feel hasn't really been discussed.

Really, I am in a bit of wonderment as to why such a huge issue hasn't found more discussion time, and am
curious as to why this is?

And please keep this at an intellectual level. No flames.

So, without further ado, let the great minds of this forum converse

Maybe something constructive will come from this.:thumbsup:

I hate you.

 

[XZeroII]

1. You don't know what you are even asking. This has been debates more times than days you've been alive with threads started by people with much greater thread leadership abilities than you will ever have.
2. What is right or wrong?
3. Why did you add in, 'no flames' when hundreds of people have done that before and it never makes a difference.
4. You didn't even put in a poll. What are you, a n00b?

Let's get our act together, friend. How can you have over 10,000 posts, yet try to create such a crappy abortion thread?

 

[XZeroII]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: datalink7
So, with all the threads being posted around here that are basically rehashes of the same thing over
and over, I thought I'd introduce a topic that I feel hasn't really been discussed.

Really, I am in a bit of wonderment as to why such a huge issue hasn't found more discussion time, and am
curious as to why this is?

And please keep this at an intellectual level. No flames.

So, without further ado, let the great minds of this forum converse

Maybe something constructive will come from this.:thumbsup:

Ah. Gotcha

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: XZeroII
1. You don't know what you are even asking. This has been debates more times than days you've been alive with threads started by people with much greater thread leadership abilities than you will ever have.
2. What is right or wrong?
3. Why did you add in, 'no flames' when hundreds of people have done that before and it never makes a difference.
4. You didn't even put in a poll. What are you, a n00b?

Let's get our act together, friend. How can you have over 10,000 posts, yet try to create such a crappy abortion thread?

See my second post in this thread.

Who's the n00b now?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Todd33
Right or wrong? In an ideal world, we'd have only emergency abortions. But this is the real world. Mistakes happen and children get pregnant. Either we have them legally or in back alleys. Smoking and drinking are in the same catagory. Making them illegal would cause more problems then regulating them.

Sidebar: Drugs? Weed? Where does that thinking start/stop? I'm not saying you are wrong, but the question of where the line is drawn needs to be addressed.

I agree that in an ideal world we'd only have emergency abortions to save the life of the mother.

CkG

 

[daveshel]

datalink is lit

 

[PatboyX]

Originally posted by: charrison

Originally posted by: conjur
To me, a woman getting an abortion (unless her life is in danger or, maybe, in the case of a rape) is the most selfish, self-centered, pathetic action a person can do.

But, since Roe v. Wade made it legal, there's no going back. I'd prefer to not return to back-alley abortions putting more and more women in danger.

I would agree, but I think parental notification for minors should be required and late term abortions outlawed.

i agree mostly.
i think that it might seem selfish and probably is for the most part. i feel like bringing a child into the world unwanted or into a situation that is not good for all parties might also be a mistake.
of course, there are alternatives.
i just wish abortion werent painted as so shameful in our culture. (not that i think it should be lauded as a god-send)

also: i think more education should be done toward young folks about abortions, especially the sort of "natural" abortion methods that are viable.

 

[Todd33]

Ya, drug laws are all screwed up. Nothing about our laws are consistant with anything logical.

 

[BDawg]

Originally posted by: conjur
To me, a woman getting an abortion (unless her life is in danger or, maybe, in the case of a rape) is the most selfish, self-centered, pathetic action a person can do.

But, since Roe v. Wade made it legal, there's no going back. I'd prefer to not return to back-alley abortions putting more and more women in danger.

I agree. I also don't feel right imposing my beliefs on others. By keeping abortion legal, nobody is forcing anyone to abort if they don't want, but people who believe abortion is okay are allowed reproductive rights.

 

[Kibbo]

Originally posted by: datalink7

Originally posted by: datalink7
So, with all the threads being posted around here that are basically rehashes of the same thing over
and over, I thought I'd introduce a topic that I feel hasn't really been discussed.

Really, I am in a bit of wonderment as to why such a huge issue hasn't found more discussion time, and am
curious as to why this is?

And please keep this at an intellectual level. No flames.

So, without further ado, let the great minds of this forum converse

Maybe something constructive will come from this.:thumbsup:

Very nice. I was sucked in 'till I read this one.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

It's wrong in all cases except when the mother is in danger or raoe.

 

[Mookow]

My take: once the egg and sperm come together and form a cell with it's complete and unique human DNA, it's human life, and entitled to the same protection it would recieve if it were 9 months later and outside the mother's womb. After all, the mother has only contributed 50% of the genetic make-up of the child, 50% of the genetic material is not from her, so I have an extremely difficult time accepting the "It's a woman's body..." arguments. I do support abortions in cases where it is necessary for the protection of the life of the mother. I do not abortions in cases where it is done for the protection of the lifestyle of the mother.

Really, the question about abortion is "At what point does it stop being a part of the woman's body and become a seperate human being?" Once you have an answer to that, you have your position on the issue. Right now the USA draws the line at when the baby is entirely outside the mother's body.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Mookow
Right now the USA draws the line at when the baby is entirely outside the mother's body.

Except in the case of Murder...

CkG

 

[nageov3t]

if the baby is viable outside the womb (ie: late term abortions), I think that it's wrong and should constitute infanticide.

before then, I think that while it may be immoral, it shouldn't be illegal.

 

[Hossenfeffer]

I don't call it "right", but I definitely don't call it "wrong". Gray area for me.

 

[nageov3t]

Originally posted by: Hossenfeffer
I don't call it "right", but I definitely don't call it "wrong". Gray area for me.

yeah, that's kinda where I am.

as a guy, I hate talking about abortion -- my gut instinct may say that it is immoral, but since it's a situation that I will never find myself in, I can't judge it.

that's why I'm pro-choice, though. I think that women should have the option to have an abortion, no matter what the reason is. no one is forcing them to do it, and I know a few women whose lives would probably be seriously messed up today if they had the babies after they got pregnant in high school.

 

[OneOfTheseDays]

while I don't agree with abortion, it's not my decision. I feel nobody has a right to tell a woman that she must have a child if she does not want to. It's not your decision.