Abortion provider shot to death at church

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Phokus
Read my sig, it's not just blogs, it's real life. Rightwingers casually wish out loud for the assassination of our POTUS. Rightwingers casually call into Kansas radio stations cheering on the murder of Tiller (according to a RIGHTWING website). Rightwing extremism is a big problem in this country and despite the right's objections, the government SHOULD be keeping a watchful eye, or people will die.

This from the guy who calls for the death of all "right wingers." :roll:

No, i meant hypothetically speaking, the world would be a better place, don't twist my words.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Phokus
Read my sig, it's not just blogs, it's real life. Rightwingers casually wish out loud for the assassination of our POTUS. Rightwingers casually call into Kansas radio stations cheering on the murder of Tiller (according to a RIGHTWING website). Rightwing extremism is a big problem in this country and despite the right's objections, the government SHOULD be keeping a watchful eye, or people will die.

This from the guy who calls for the death of all "right wingers." :roll:

No, i meant hypothetically speaking, the world would be a better place, don't twist my words.

LMFAO :roll:

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: fallout man

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
Read my sig, it's not just blogs, it's real life. Rightwingers casually wish out loud for the assassination of our POTUS. Rightwingers casually call into Kansas radio stations cheering on the murder of Tiller (according to a RIGHTWING website). Rightwing extremism is a big problem in this country and despite the right's objections, the government SHOULD be keeping a watchful eye, or people will die.

Your signature that claims the voting base of the GOP largely wants the president assassinated? Yeah, I don't consider you a reliable source of information or insight. :roll:

Stop reading blogs. Stop watching MSNBC.

I find MSNBC refreshing. I tend to consume quite a bit of news during the day (I love news, and my job allows me to play). Judging by some of things I read, MSNBC is more than fair and balanced. Oh yeah, I also read the BBC a lot--they hate jews, I hear.

During the daytime MSNBC is fine. It's the evening talk news shows that are beyond nonsense. Mathews, Olbermann, Maddow... I'll occasionally watch them just so I know what their shows are about when I talk about them... It's ridiculous, on average half of each of their shows is dedicated to distorting the viewer's perception of the Republican Party.

MSNBC does the same thing Phokus does, finds one example of one person doing or saying *something*, then expands it out to being a representation of the official GOP platform, supported by the members and voters.


To give a good example of them distorting perceptions, during the debates on the stimulus bill, MSNBC did non-stop coverage depicting Republicans as the party that does not want Americans to have jobs :roll:

Fox News is bad enough, but that doesn't make MSNBC any better.

Explain why LGF is so concerned that the floodgates are pouring out and the rightwing are showing their true colors and getting their rocks off on this murder? This is from a very rightwing website too. That's hardly 'msnbc'

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Explain why LGF is so concerned that the floodgates are pouring out and the rightwing are showing their true colors and getting their rocks off on this murder? This is from a very rightwing website too. That's hardly 'msnbc'

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"don't twist [their] words"

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: Phokus

Explain why LGF is so concerned that the floodgates are pouring out and the rightwing are showing their true colors and getting their rocks off on this murder? This is from a very rightwing website too. That's hardly 'msnbc'

"don't twist [their] words"

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I'm not:

I've been listening to a call in show in Kansas for the past hour, caller after caller has been justifying this, apologizing for shroeder, and basically talking like the neo Taliban, it was stomach turning. Is my home state morphing into Waziristan on the plains?

It's absolutely everywhere. This murder has opened the floodgates. We have people here at LGF who are denying there's a problem, but there is -- and it's a HUGE problem

It amazes me that a far-right website like LGF recognizes the problem but the P&N rightwing crew is in denial about it. Just how far right are you guys?

 

[Phokus]

Anyone watch o'reilly tonight? what did that scumbag have to say about the murder? That gasbag defamed tiller's name in 28 freaking seperate episodes, unbelievable.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: Phokus
Anyone watch o'reilly tonight? what did that scumbag have to say about the murder? That gasbag defamed tiller's name in 28 freaking seperate episodes, unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eature=player_embedded

Olbermann's response... powerful stuff

 

[marincounty]

Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

 

[umbrella39]

Originally posted by: piasabird
If you get paid to smash babies heads and suck their brains out, you deserve to die the same way. Frankly, I dont see how a guy like that will ever get to heaven??? He is already a Murderer for money. Hard to cry for a baby killer.

Really!! Deciding who should live or die and how they should meet their fate??? Oh wait, who are we talking about ....

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: cubby1223

Originally posted by: Phokus
Interestingly enough, Little Green Footballs has been one of the few rightwing blogs to speak out against the rampant extremism on the right over this incident. Lots of rightwing blogs have had to lock their comments sections because it's being flooded with idiot conservatives cheering on tiller's death. If even a far rightwing blog like LGF is scared at how many rightwing extremists are supporting the murder, just how screwed is the GOP?

Here's one of the adminstrators replying to a reader:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/43/7251862

I've been listening to a call in show in Kansas for the past hour, caller after caller has been justifying this, apologizing for shroeder, and basically talking like the neo Taliban, it was stomach turning. Is my home state morphing into Waziristan on the plains?

It's absolutely everywhere. This murder has opened the floodgates. We have people here at LGF who are denying there's a problem, but there is -- and it's a HUGE problem

LGF is probably only one of the few rightwing blogs that are speaking out against the violence and actually mean it. They've spoken out against free republic and the freepers are very unhappy about it.

edit:

LGF even admits the loony right should take a more sober look at the DHS report, the murderer fits the terrorist description to a T

http://littlegreenfootballs.co..._Wing_Extremist_Report

Is LGF turning into a liberal (translation: reality based) blog? :Q

Who gives a shit about blogs? They always attract the whackos on both sides. Rational people are smart enough to ignore them. I never check out blogs.

No wonder the lot of you are always angry all the time. Stop reading blogs.

Read my sig, it's not just blogs, it's real life. Rightwingers casually wish out loud for the assassination of our POTUS. Rightwingers casually call into Kansas radio stations cheering on the murder of Tiller (according to a RIGHTWING website). Rightwing extremism is a big problem in this country and despite the right's objections, the government SHOULD be keeping a watchful eye, or people will die.

I've heard far far far more comments about wishing death to Bush and Cheney than I've ever heard of "rightwingers" wishing death to doctors who perform abortions or Obama.

fauxoutrage.txt

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: marincounty
Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

😕

Oh, marincounty...the name explains it, nevermind.

 

[heyheybooboo]

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: marincounty
Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

😕

Oh, marincounty...the name explains it, nevermind.

I know you may find this hard to believe as it certainly does not fit in your narrow little view but most states have criminal statutes regarding incitement of criminal action.

Persons may be held complicit and liable as an accomplice for the criminal conduct of another by promoting or facilitating the commission of the offense without physically participating in the criminal act.

 

[Craig234]

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: marincounty
Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

😕

Oh, marincounty...the name explains it, nevermind.

I know you may find this hard to believe as it certainly does not fit in your narrow little view but most states have criminal statutes regarding incitement of criminal action.

Persons may be held complicit and liable as an accomplice for the criminal conduct of another by promoting or facilitating the commission of the offense without physically participating in the criminal act.

TechAZ explains it, too.

 

[microbial]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: marincounty
Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

😕

Oh, marincounty...the name explains it, nevermind.

I know you may find this hard to believe as it certainly does not fit in your narrow little view but most states have criminal statutes regarding incitement of criminal action.

Persons may be held complicit and liable as an accomplice for the criminal conduct of another by promoting or facilitating the commission of the offense without physically participating in the criminal act.

TechAZ explains it, too.

Clearly the Constitution does not protect hate speech, and provocation to anger. Lots of other types of speech the constitution does not protect.

Fox News nor anyone else is exempt. You don't get special dispensation to commit illegal acts just because you have a broadcast license.

 

[Fear No Evil]

The attacks on OReilly are just further proof on how morally bankrupt the democrat party has become. They cannot defeat him in the ratings, so they are going to try to hold him accountable for what some nutjob did to an abortion doctor. Saying you think someone is doing something immoral or disgusting and that you personally disagree with it is NOT inciting violence.

Of course, its better for the democrats to use this as a political statement because they know this person was a worthless human being and are probably not even that sad that he's dead. They will just use the death to attack radio hosts.

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
The attacks on OReilly are just further proof on how morally bankrupt the democrat party has become. They cannot defeat him in the ratings, so they are going to try to hold him accountable for what some nutjob did to an abortion doctor. Saying you think someone is doing something immoral or disgusting and that you personally disagree with it is NOT inciting violence.

Of course, its better for the democrats to use this as a political statement because they know this person was a worthless human being and are probably not even that sad that he's dead. They will just use the death to attack radio hosts.

Right, its not the person on air who saying the doctor needs to be killed that is the bad person, its the people who call him out on it, they are bad ones.

Funny to see how suddenly FNE is on the side of terrorists though, I guess white makes right for you.

 

[TechAZ]

Originally posted by: microbial

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: heyheybooboo

Originally posted by: TechAZ

Originally posted by: marincounty
Maybe Dr. Tiller's family can sue Fox news and O'Reilly over this.

😕

Oh, marincounty...the name explains it, nevermind.

I know you may find this hard to believe as it certainly does not fit in your narrow little view but most states have criminal statutes regarding incitement of criminal action.

Persons may be held complicit and liable as an accomplice for the criminal conduct of another by promoting or facilitating the commission of the offense without physically participating in the criminal act.

TechAZ explains it, too.

Clearly the Constitution does not protect hate speech, and provocation to anger. Lots of other types of speech the constitution does not protect.

Fox News nor anyone else is exempt. You don't get special dispensation to commit illegal acts just because you have a broadcast license.

Hate speech....lol.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Phokus
Anyone watch o'reilly tonight? what did that scumbag have to say about the murder? That gasbag defamed tiller's name in 28 freaking seperate episodes, unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eature=player_embedded

Olbermann's response... powerful stuff

Sounds like the typical freak left whining about FOX. Just because O or other people covered the case(you do realize he was up on charges right?) and expressed their opinion/editorialized about it does not mean they incited anything or caused his death. When will you freak leftists get over your fascination with FOX?

 

[jonks]

"The antitax stuff came first, and then it grew and grew. He became very antiabortion," said Lindsey Roeder, who was married to Scott Roeder for 10 years but "strongly disagrees with his beliefs.

future of the tea baggers?

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: Phokus
Anyone watch o'reilly tonight? what did that scumbag have to say about the murder? That gasbag defamed tiller's name in 28 freaking seperate episodes, unbelievable.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...eature=player_embedded

Olbermann's response... powerful stuff

Sounds like the typical freak left whining about FOX. Just because O or other people covered the case(you do realize he was up on charges right?) and expressed their opinion/editorialized about it does not mean they incited anything or caused his death. When will you freak leftists get over your fascination with FOX?

No, he wasn't up on charges.

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"On March 27, 2009, Tiller was found not guilty of all 19 misdemeanor charges stemming from some abortions he performed at his Wichita clinic in 2003. Despite this acquittal, the state?s Board of Healing Arts continued to investigate charges of ethical violations that mirrored the prosecutors' criminal allegations.[31]"

No one is whining about fox. Just because they discussed him 28 times and called him
"Tiller the baby killer" and warning of his "judgement day" doesn't mean they incited anything?

When will you righties get a clue? Fox is hateful misleading garbage, quit listening to it.

Dr. Tiller was courageous man, still practicing after being shot, attempted bombings and constant harassment.

"After hearing about a woman that had died from an illegal abortion, Tiller stayed in Wichita to continue his father's practice.[12]"

NYU Professor Jacob Appel described Tiller as "a genuine hero who ranks alongside Susan B. Anthony and Martin Luther King Jr. in the pantheon of defenders of human liberty."[30]

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
The attacks on OReilly are just further proof on how morally bankrupt the democrat party has become. They cannot defeat him in the ratings, so they are going to try to hold him accountable for what some nutjob did to an abortion doctor. Saying you think someone is doing something immoral or disgusting and that you personally disagree with it is NOT inciting violence.

Of course, its better for the democrats to use this as a political statement because they know this person was a worthless human being and are probably not even that sad that he's dead. They will just use the death to attack radio hosts.

Right, its not the person on air who saying the doctor needs to be killed that is the bad person, its the people who call him out on it, they are bad ones.

Funny to see how suddenly FNE is on the side of terrorists though, I guess white makes right for you.

Could you please provide reference to OReilly saying the doctor needs to be killed?

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
The attacks on OReilly are just further proof on how morally bankrupt the democrat party has become. They cannot defeat him in the ratings, so they are going to try to hold him accountable for what some nutjob did to an abortion doctor. Saying you think someone is doing something immoral or disgusting and that you personally disagree with it is NOT inciting violence.

Of course, its better for the democrats to use this as a political statement because they know this person was a worthless human being and are probably not even that sad that he's dead. They will just use the death to attack radio hosts.

Right, its not the person on air who saying the doctor needs to be killed that is the bad person, its the people who call him out on it, they are bad ones.

Funny to see how suddenly FNE is on the side of terrorists though, I guess white makes right for you.

Could you please provide reference to OReilly saying the doctor needs to be killed?

He doesn't come right out and say he needs to be killed. However:

?If you want to kill a baby, you hire Tiller. You?ve got to pay him $5,000 up front, and he?ll kill the baby.?
?No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands.?
?Dr. George Tiller destroys fetuses for just about any reason, right up until the birth date.?
? ?This man executes babies that are about to be born
?This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao?s China, Hitler?s Germany, Stalin?s Soviet Union.?

He's guilty of "Nazi stuff," said O'Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15,

On June 12, 2007, he said, "Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius."

"O'Reilly didn't tell anyone to do anything violent, but he did put Tiller in the public eye, and help make him the focus of a movement with a history of violence against exactly these kinds of targets (including Tiller himself, who had already been shot). In those circumstances, flinging around words like "blood on their hands," "pardon," "country club" and "judgment day" was sensationally irresponsible."
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think Tiller's family should sue O'Reilly for inciting the violence against him.

 

[Fear No Evil]

Originally posted by: marincounty

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
The attacks on OReilly are just further proof on how morally bankrupt the democrat party has become. They cannot defeat him in the ratings, so they are going to try to hold him accountable for what some nutjob did to an abortion doctor. Saying you think someone is doing something immoral or disgusting and that you personally disagree with it is NOT inciting violence.

Of course, its better for the democrats to use this as a political statement because they know this person was a worthless human being and are probably not even that sad that he's dead. They will just use the death to attack radio hosts.

Right, its not the person on air who saying the doctor needs to be killed that is the bad person, its the people who call him out on it, they are bad ones.

Funny to see how suddenly FNE is on the side of terrorists though, I guess white makes right for you.

Could you please provide reference to OReilly saying the doctor needs to be killed?

He doesn't come right out and say he needs to be killed. However:

?If you want to kill a baby, you hire Tiller. You?ve got to pay him $5,000 up front, and he?ll kill the baby.?
?No question Dr. Tiller has blood on his hands.?
?Dr. George Tiller destroys fetuses for just about any reason, right up until the birth date.?
? ?This man executes babies that are about to be born
?This is the kind of stuff happened in Mao?s China, Hitler?s Germany, Stalin?s Soviet Union.?

He's guilty of "Nazi stuff," said O'Reilly on June 8, 2005; a moral equivalent to NAMBLA and al-Qaida, he suggested on March 15,

On June 12, 2007, he said, "Yes, I think we all know what this is. And if the state of Kansas doesn't stop this man, then anybody who prevents that from happening has blood on their hands as the governor does right now, Governor Sebelius."

"O'Reilly didn't tell anyone to do anything violent, but he did put Tiller in the public eye, and help make him the focus of a movement with a history of violence against exactly these kinds of targets (including Tiller himself, who had already been shot). In those circumstances, flinging around words like "blood on their hands," "pardon," "country club" and "judgment day" was sensationally irresponsible."
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I'm not a lawyer, but I think Tiller's family should sue O'Reilly for inciting the violence against him.

How do any of those statements say 'kill the doctor'? If you come out against torture are you suggesting people kill the former President George Bush? Should the statements made by Harvey in this forum be interpreted as inciting violence against GWB?

Are you suggesting that people not be allowed to come out against late term abortions because it may possibly encourage someone to kill a doctor who performs them? If I say I am against high taxes am I encouraging people kill democrats?

 

[Synomenon]

I wonder if all those opposed to abortion would be willing to take a woman's child off her hands instead of her (the woman) having it aborted?

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: IsLNdbOi
I wonder if all those opposed to abortion would be willing to take a woman's child off her hands instead of her (the woman) having it aborted?

Of course not. As Carlin put it, Republicans want live babies so they can make dead soldiers.