Abortion Billboards

[shiner]

Link

 

[biostud]

Why don't the show some knee operations as well, they look gruesome too. We gotta stop all that look disgusting.

 

[Zebo]

LOL is thier any doubt who OK will vote for in '04... seems like a waste of money there.. california or at least swing states is where they need these moving billboards..

Hey you live I tulsa? I'm going to be there, all over NE OK, SE kansas, for two weeks bird hunting.. some fishing... starting monday.. Pm if you wanna hook up.

But, I'm not sure you babies can handle drinking 50/50's (50% Jack..50% coke.) all day long though like me and my brothers considering your 3.2 beer..

 

[Ozoned]

If there is one thing that we have learned in the last year, it is that pictures (images) are the most powerful of all mediums. Hope it works...

 

[Steeplerot]

Heh they bring that junk here theyd just spraypaint tags over it and jack the rims.

 

[Vadatajs]

Notice how it's only pro-lifers pulling stupid, disruptive sh1t like this.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Notice how it's only pro-lifers pulling stupid, disruptive sh1t like this.

notice how you support the whole sale slaughter of millions of children.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

They were in DesMoines not too long ago. They had trucks and even had a plane with a HUGE banner trailing behind it. People talked about it for a couple days and then discussion stopped. I don't think it will change too many people's minds though - this election has more issues than just abortion to decide on.

Vadatajs - what exactly is disruptive and stupid? Could it be that you just don't like their views?

CsG

 

[DealMonkey]

Perhaps some group should drive through OK with billboards featuring graphic imagery of dead Iraqi civilians with their brains splattered all over the pavement and see what effect that has on support for the war in Iraq?

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain

Originally posted by: Vadatajs
Notice how it's only pro-lifers pulling stupid, disruptive sh1t like this.

notice how you support the whole sale slaughter of millions of children.

So just because I point out the obvious, you find it necessary to try and build a strawman out of my statement?

Get a life.

 

[Vadatajs]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
They were in DesMoines not too long ago. They had trucks and even had a plane with a HUGE banner trailing behind it. People talked about it for a couple days and then discussion stopped. I don't think it will change too many people's minds though - this election has more issues than just abortion to decide on.

Vadatajs - what exactly is disruptive and stupid? Could it be that you just don't like their views?

CsG

You'd be singing a very different tune if we anti-war folks went around in trucks plastered with images of our dead and wounded soldiers, or of innocent dead iraqis. They may have a point, but their display is in very poor taste.

You don't call the bombed abortion clinic in Mass a few days ago disruptive and stupid?

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Vadatajs

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY
They were in DesMoines not too long ago. They had trucks and even had a plane with a HUGE banner trailing behind it. People talked about it for a couple days and then discussion stopped. I don't think it will change too many people's minds though - this election has more issues than just abortion to decide on.

Vadatajs - what exactly is disruptive and stupid? Could it be that you just don't like their views?

CsG

You'd be singing a very different tune if we anti-war folks went around in trucks plastered with images of our dead and wounded soldiers, or of innocent dead iraqis. They may have a point, but their display is in very poor taste.

You don't call the bombed abortion clinic in Mass a few days ago disruptive and stupid?

I hadn't heard about the bombed clinic, but yes -that would be disruptive and stupid. Stupid because it is counter-productive to their cause.

The anti-war folks already are displaying such things - look at the protests and protesters. The protesters who are peacefull and non-disruptive probably help their cause but the disruptive ones don't - just like in this abortion situation. The trucks/signs probably help where as the clinic situation didn't help. Quite similar if you ask me.

CsG

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Perhaps some group should drive through OK with billboards featuring graphic imagery of dead Iraqi civilians with their brains splattered all over the pavement and see what effect that has on support for the war in Iraq?

Most likely if they tried to pull that here they would be run out of town very quickly.

 

[0roo0roo]

how about a bill board of a ricer after a 100+mph crash?

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

No need to expose kids to that kind of imagry...they don't understand the politics, ethics, etc..., but they can get the crap scared out of them.


this tactic is as morally bankrupt as they claim abortion to be.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
No need to expose kids to that kind of imagry...they don't understand the politics, ethics, etc..., but they can get the crap scared out of them.


this tactic is as morally bankrupt as they claim abortion to be.

:roll: As? Gimme a break. Hurting someones sensibilites has nothing on destroying a fetus.

 

[0roo0roo]

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its icky, so don't click if u are wimpy

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Perhaps some group should drive through OK with billboards featuring graphic imagery of dead Iraqi civilians with their brains splattered all over the pavement and see what effect that has on support for the war in Iraq?

Most likely if they tried to pull that here they would be run out of town very quickly.

Moral relevatism. Are you actually suggesting that a dead fetus > a dead Iraqi civilian? Or are you just ashamed to see first-hand what our government actually does in our name?

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
No need to expose kids to that kind of imagry...they don't understand the politics, ethics, etc..., but they can get the crap scared out of them.


this tactic is as morally bankrupt as they claim abortion to be.

:roll: As? Gimme a break. Hurting someones sensibilites has nothing on destroying a fetus.

The ends don't always justify the means. If you think abortion should be illegal, the you can go about your mission in a way that doesn't involve exposing children to that kind of crap. Then again, if a person has God on his side, he you doesn't really need to worry about minor issues like that.

 

[Zebo]

Edit: Fustration/reactionary comments edited out.


There is a fundemetal roadblock in the abortion debate, there is no middle ground, because if one believes that the unborn are fully human (persons) AND the unborn carried in the wombs of pro-choice women are just as human as those carried in the wombs of pro-life women. It's murder. Simple as that. And should be illegal and stopped with all possible haste.

Pro-choicers ought to put at least some effort into understanding the pro-life position. When they tell pro-lifers (as they often do) that they have a right to believe what they want to believe, they are unwittingly promoting the radical tactics of Operation Rescue (OR). Think about it. If you believed that a class of persons were being murdered by methods that include dismemberment, suffocation, and burning ? resulting in excruciating pain in many cases ? wouldn't you be perplexed if someone tried to ease your outrage by telling you that you didn't have to participate in the murders if you didn't want to? That is exactly what pro-lifers hear when abortion-rights supporters tell them, "Don't like abortion, don't have one," or "I'm pro-choice, but personally opposed." In the mind of the pro-lifer, this is like telling an abolitionist, "Don't like slavery, don't own one," or telling Dietrich Bonhoffer, "Don't like the holocaust, don't kill a Jew." Consequently, to request that pro-lifers "shouldn't force their pro-life belief on others" while at the same time claiming that "they have a right to believe what they want to believe" is to reveal an incredible ignorance of their position.

http://www.equip.org/free/DA241.htm

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't really have that much of a problem with guys taking out abortion doctors to save a life. Yes it should be illegal, but I still admire them, greatly. Pfft a couple signs boohoo.

See thier is a fundemetal roadblock in the abortion debate, there is no middle ground, because if one believes that the unborn are fully human (persons) AND the unborn carried in the wombs of pro-choice women are just as human as those carried in the wombs of pro-life women. It's murder. Simple as that. And should be illegal and stopped with all possible haste.

I don't know if you are serious or not, but if you are, then that if just really sad. Just because you or me BELIEVES something to be true, doesn't justify acts of aggression such as intentionally exposing children to nasty ass images or killing people. But like I said....IF you think you have god on your side, then it doesn't matter who gets hurt in the process of enforcing your beliefs. Thats the problem, not whether or not you believe that a soul is created at conception. If it wasn't abortion, it would be something else.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't really have that much of a problem with guys taking out abortion doctors to save a life. Yes it should be illegal, but I still admire them, greatly. Pfft a couple signs boohoo.

Wow. That is one of the most f'd up sentiments I've heard around here in quite a while.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't really have that much of a problem with guys taking out abortion doctors to save a life. Yes it should be illegal, but I still admire them, greatly. Pfft a couple signs boohoo.

Wow. That is one of the most f'd up sentiments I've heard around here in quite a while.

Fustration/reactionary comments edited out.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: Zebo

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: Zebo
I don't really have that much of a problem with guys taking out abortion doctors to save a life. Yes it should be illegal, but I still admire them, greatly. Pfft a couple signs boohoo.

Wow. That is one of the most f'd up sentiments I've heard around here in quite a while.

Why's that? If your neighbor was trying to kill his son I'd hope you shoot the dad before he could, the cops would. Same deal to us just different ages.

I perfectly understand that someone would believe that life starts at conception and therefore abortion is killing. I don't understand how someone can be so arrogant in that belief that they can justify what you propose/admire/respect. IF you are so certain that abortion is such a sin, then why don't you just let God take care of things? Oh yeah....here comes the part about being God's instrument, and being morally obligated to uphold God's law over the government's law. The only problem is that you don't live in a religious state. You live in a democracy where its the letter of the law that defines whats criminally and civilly acceptable. If you don't like it then perhaps you should go live somewhere else.

 

[Zebo]

You both would do good to read the page I linked. You're irrational emotionally charged rambings do no good to the debate.