ABIT IP35 PRO + Q6600 B3 OC-ing, I'm stuck. Please help

[Dorian Grey]

Ok. I lapped my HS...
I'm using a Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F to cool it.. Here comes the (probably stupid) question.. does the fanlogo have to face into the HS or face outward?
I tried to figure that out from the manual but its too brief to show it.. maybe someone can clearify it for me.. I'm just trying to figure out why my temps are still so high..

 

[Dorian Grey]

I'm getting desperate here. I already gave up on reaching 3.2 ghz . 3.0 ghz suddenly gives too high temps. and now ive put everything back on stock settings i get 45 degrees during idle (in bios) and (49-50 during idle in windows on stock settings)... im so very disappointed... what am i doing wrong?? do i have a horrible cpu or something?
I lapped my HS, made an ultra thin layer of paste, placed the fan according to this pic: http://www.pithed.org/blogpics/ultra120installed.jpg

 

[cmdrdredd]

Your fan should show an airflow path. It should have a printed arrow on the casing somewhere to tell you the direction. Face it so it pushes air on to the HSF. Facing out the back of your case.

 

[Dorian Grey]

Yup. thats solved now... what i still dont understand is that im getting such horrible temperatures on 3 ghz...
Is 66,67 on all cores normal for full load at 3 ghz?

Im guessing its my room temperature (which is prolly around 25)

I lapped the heatsink
I faced the fan the right direction
I applied a thin layer of paste (in a line) on the AS5-way (with the normal paste that came along with the HS though)

I have no clue what else I forgot.. It's so surprising (more disappointing) that earlier today i had no problems and 61 degrees max during prime (without errors) and now even though i didnt change anything its totally messed up...

 

[cmdrdredd]

That's normal.

Something I thought about. Open up uGuru and check your temps. Look at your PWM temp and take note of it. Run Orthos or Prime95 Small FFT and see how much the PWM temp rises. If it goes really high you will crash. This is your temps around the MOSFET area of your Motherboard and you can do a mod to the cooler to get lower temps. It involves removing the heatpipe system and bending it flatter then reinstalling it with screws instead of the push pins. Also changing the thermal pads for some thermal paste.

This could be one thing that we overlooked.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Dorian Grey
Ok I tried 2 things now:

7x458 (3206), Vcore(1.3825) DDR2(2.2) VTT(1.42) MCH (1.48) .... 1:1 DDR2-916

9x356 (3204), Vcore(1.3825) DDR2(2.2) VTT(1.42) MCH (1.48) ...... DEFAULT (DDR2-1068)

Both settings boot up fine and have 50,49 degrees idle..

However when i start prime it locks up and shuts down pc... Any ideas?

up vcore. it is much easier to do this in uguru when it is just failing orthos instead of completely locking up. try upping it to 1.4 or so, then if you fail you'll probably just fail a calculation instead of locking the computer up.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
That's normal.

Something I thought about. Open up uGuru and check your temps. Look at your PWM temp and take note of it. Run Orthos or Prime95 Small FFT and see how much the PWM temp rises. If it goes really high you will crash. This is your temps around the MOSFET area of your Motherboard and you can do a mod to the cooler to get lower temps. It involves removing the heatpipe system and bending it flatter then reinstalling it with screws instead of the push pins. Also changing the thermal pads for some thermal paste.

This could be one thing that we overlooked.

yes, pwm temp is important. I've been ok with mine without even installing a side cooling fan in p900, but I'm only on a c2d so my temps are lower in general.

 

[Dorian Grey]

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
That's normal.

Something I thought about. Open up uGuru and check your temps. Look at your PWM temp and take note of it. Run Orthos or Prime95 Small FFT and see how much the PWM temp rises. If it goes really high you will crash. This is your temps around the MOSFET area of your Motherboard and you can do a mod to the cooler to get lower temps. It involves removing the heatpipe system and bending it flatter then reinstalling it with screws instead of the push pins. Also changing the thermal pads for some thermal paste.

This could be one thing that we overlooked.

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What PWM temp is considered high ?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: Dorian Grey

Originally posted by: cmdrdredd
That's normal.

Something I thought about. Open up uGuru and check your temps. Look at your PWM temp and take note of it. Run Orthos or Prime95 Small FFT and see how much the PWM temp rises. If it goes really high you will crash. This is your temps around the MOSFET area of your Motherboard and you can do a mod to the cooler to get lower temps. It involves removing the heatpipe system and bending it flatter then reinstalling it with screws instead of the push pins. Also changing the thermal pads for some thermal paste.

This could be one thing that we overlooked.

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What PWM temp is considered high ?

high is like when it goes above 70c. I never go that high, but again I'm not on a quad. Quad core CPUS generally wll create more stress on this area.

 

[Hauk]

Originally posted by: Dorian Grey
Ok this is odd.. I didnt change anything since the afternoon. I had idle temps of 49,50 load 61 ~ with this:
Ok 9x334 (3006), Vcore(1.3525), DDR2(1.8), VTT(1.42) MCH(1.44) ..... 1:1 (DDR2-668)

And now.. System gets temps over 65 during tests easily, while they were stuck at 61 earlier today.. :S
I'm totally confused.. How can this happen?

I think you're running motherboard voltages too high for a ~3GHz OC. I'm running my B3 @ 340 x 9 on this board with:

VCore: 1.3625
MCH: 1.33
CPU VTT: 1.23
ICH 1.09
ICHIO: 1.55

with a lapped Ultra 120 extreme, same case, exaust fans at medium, and getting idle temps 35C, Orthos temps 55C, gaming temps 43C. uGuru voltage/temps

Only variable is I installed the latest beta bios 12:B02, first post, under the Beta Bios section. They advise not to use uGuru Flash Menu to flash the bios. Boot CD is safest (but I'm a rebel and had no issue with Flash Menu). Beta bios's were supposed to improved quad compatibility.

Before you try flashing try lowering MCH, VTT and other settings to match, set VCore to 1.3625 (~1.32 in OS) and see what temps you get at 333-340 x 9.

 

[DreamInBlue]

Temperatures under 70 when you are using coretemp are not that bad, coretemp measures tjunction, the point where your cpu shuts off is 100, this is not the same as Tcase. Intel recommends you stay under 62 for the Tcase, i have found that the tcase generally hovers around 10 degrees less than the tjunction. I have a Xeon Quad X3210 (pretty much the same as a q6600 with a multiplier of 8) B3 stepping that would reach 80 at 3GHZ and 1.4125 vcore, and that was in a case with great airflow and a Thermalright SI-128Se Cooler w/ a 70CFM fan. I now have it WC'd and it still reaches 60.
If you are using Arctic silver/ceramique I would recommend checking their application instructions b/c it is different on Quads. There was about a 5 degree difference for me, between putting a thin layer over the entire IHS and just putting a small line across the middle.