Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

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nabinabi

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I have IDE DVD drive and HDD, and considering abit IP35-E. Some of reviewers complained that the board and IDE drive can not be used for OS installation as the board does not recognize IDE initially. It seems odd to me. Can you please confirm it? Do I need to buy SATA DVD drive for the board?
 

Heidfirst

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No, you don't need to.
The JMicron however isn't a greatly loved controller & it may be easier just to switch it off & use a SATA ODD (side benefit is that the mobo will also boot faster without it enabled) - I learned that on a Gigabyte so it's not just abit.
having said that that was a long time ago & compatibility has improved.
 

kknd1967

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I only have 2 IDE devices (7200.10 PATA and NEC3540 DVDRW, don't want to invest more to SATA) with IP35-E
my XP sP2 system is just running fine

the thing is you need to scroll all the way down to the end of the list of boot devices, to find your drives


Originally posted by: nabinabi
I have IDE DVD drive and HDD, and considering abit IP35-E. Some of reviewers complained that the board and IDE drive can not be used for OS installation as the board does not recognize IDE initially. It seems odd to me. Can you please confirm it? Do I need to buy SATA DVD drive for the board?

 

Krakn3Dfx

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Board is $70 + shipping after $30 rebate again at the egg. Went ahead and ordered one since I missed it last time.
 

nabinabi

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Thank you, kknd1967.

I have IDE DVD and HDD for new IP35-E. I hope the board comes with all the fixes for the troubles people reported earlier. Any other tips for using two IDE drives such as master/slave? It always bothered me that people recommend cable select or master/slave for performance. Does it still matter? I thought everything should be cable select by now...
 

VirtualLarry

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Originally posted by: nabinabi
Thank you, kknd1967.

I have IDE DVD and HDD for new IP35-E. I hope the board comes with all the fixes for the troubles people reported earlier. Any other tips for using two IDE drives such as master/slave? It always bothered me that people recommend cable select or master/slave for performance. Does it still matter? I thought everything should be cable select by now...

I have an IP35-E installed with two IDE devices, a HD and a DVD-RW. You need to make the HD the master. I recommend setting the jumpers rather than using cable-select, as the end of the cable is normally master, but due to routing, ends up connected to the optical drive. The HD connects in the middle.
 

hokiealumnus

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Depends on which BIOS you get. People seem to be able to operate just fine with both v.14 & 15, the temps & Vcore are just screwy. The new beta fixes those issues though. The ones shipping from Newegg are v.15 now AFAIK (not a lot of empirical evidence; I've only seen one person say that and it was pretty recent).
 

kknd1967

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I used cable select on both with DVDRW as default master (top end of the IDE cable), mainly just for burner compatibility issue (these NEC burners love to be master :) otherwise, occasionally there may be some wierd nero error during burning as reported by CDFreaks forum).

I assume VirtualLarry's setting should work well too.

Originally posted by: nabinabi
Thank you, kknd1967.

I have IDE DVD and HDD for new IP35-E. I hope the board comes with all the fixes for the troubles people reported earlier. Any other tips for using two IDE drives such as master/slave? It always bothered me that people recommend cable select or master/slave for performance. Does it still matter? I thought everything should be cable select by now...

 

WT

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Sorry if this has been asked already, but will this board work with a 20 pin PSU ?? I have a spare 20 pin PSU lying around and it would save me $75 if I could use that instead. TIA !
 

Tullphan

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I sent my board in for RMA replacement yesterday for the SATA connector that came off.
I can't remember, but what's the minimum vcore on the Abit? How low can one adjust it?
 

hokiealumnus

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Sorry to hear you had an SATA connector problem. It's not rampant but it has happened. I blame RoHS compliant solder...old fashioned lead held much better!

Anyway, the minimum Vcore is your CPU's VID, whatever that may be. No under-volting with the IP35 series unfortunately.
 

JaYp146

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Okay guys, I have a bit of a dilemma with this board.

Let me start by saying I have an E6750, batch # is L722A559. Google this and you'll find a Norwegian forum showing that someone's overclocked this batch to 3.6 Ghz on 1.5v.

I'm combining said CPU with a Scythe Ninja, Yate Loon medium speed 120mm fan, and Arctic Silver 5. Idle temps are ~22C.

Simply put, I cannot get any higher than 425 FSB on this board. I've bumped MCH and ICH voltage, maxed VTT voltage, added a fan to the northbridge for extra cooling, and have DDR2-1000 G.Skill RAM clocked 1:1.

My current wall is 3.4 Ghz. 425x8 is the highest I can go before I have to push voltages beyond 1.51v, which I don't like doing one bit.


Is this the board or the CPU at fault? The Northbridge is cool to the touch, PWM (VRM) sensor never goes above 60C.


Oh, and most importantly, I am testing these OCs with Orthos blend.
 

SSCamaro

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Need help, having a problem trying to do a clean installation of MS XP Pro on an Abit IP35-E.
I've clear the BIOS, reduced the RAM to two 1GB sticks, but the installation just keep looping after booting back to the initial installation process.
I have an IDE HD and IDE DVD, but what's strange is I don't see an IDE drive a choice as a first boot device in the BIOS.
I did see the USB CD drive as a boot device, so I hook one up and I'm still get looped in the installation process.
I sure I set my HDD as the Master and the DVD as the slave, or did I?
Or does this board require a SATA HDD or DVD dive to perform an OS installation?
It has to be something stupid that I done or overlooked; it?s driving me crazy?
:confused:
 

nerp

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You're not pressing any key to boot from CD after that first reboot, right? I've known a few people who kept hitting a key and wondering why setup starts from scratch over and over. THis might be a dumb bit of advice, but you didn't say for sure. If you are booting from the CD over and over, remember, after the first reboot in setup, you do NOT want to boot the CD again. :)
 

SSCamaro

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I?m sure I?m not hitting any keys between boots. It?s a home unit and I?m at work now, but what I do remember is after several looping reboots I pulled the installation CD from the Drive after the first reboot but before the second boot started and I would get the message requesting the installation disk. No other options were offered. It was late; I haven?t slept for the past 28 hours so I may be hallucinating. I?m sure I didn?t see an internal optical drive in the choice of boot devices. Tonight, I?ll look again for the internal optical drive. I?ll try again after rechecking the master//slave settings and possibly pull the internal IDE DVD to isolate the problem. Thanks for you advice.
 

Password

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I had some wierd things happening with my IP35-E like reboots and other odd things until I discovered that the jumper on the BIOS pins was loose. It couldn't grip the pins. It would wiggle and cause a reboot. I replaced it with a jumper from a HD and all is fine now.
 

brencat

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Originally posted by: JaYp146
Okay guys, I have a bit of a dilemma with this board.

Let me start by saying I have an E6750, batch # is L722A559. Google this and you'll find a Norwegian forum showing that someone's overclocked this batch to 3.6 Ghz on 1.5v.

I'm combining said CPU with a Scythe Ninja, Yate Loon medium speed 120mm fan, and Arctic Silver 5. Idle temps are ~22C.

Simply put, I cannot get any higher than 425 FSB on this board. I've bumped MCH and ICH voltage, maxed VTT voltage, added a fan to the northbridge for extra cooling, and have DDR2-1000 G.Skill RAM clocked 1:1.

My current wall is 3.4 Ghz. 425x8 is the highest I can go before I have to push voltages beyond 1.51v, which I don't like doing one bit.


Is this the board or the CPU at fault? The Northbridge is cool to the touch, PWM (VRM) sensor never goes above 60C.


Oh, and most importantly, I am testing these OCs with Orthos blend.
I have known 2 others in this forum to top out with their E6750 around 3.3 - 3.4ghz also, so you may have a modest underperformer there. That said, at exactly what FSB do you fail Orthos ?

If you haven't already, take your RAM out of the equation completely. I see you've already set your divider to 1:1. Make sure you also manually set the first 4 RAM timings on the Advanced Chipset Features tab to 5-5-5-15 and the command rate (CR) near the bottom to 2T. Also set your CPU GTLREF % to 67% (found in SoftMenu)
 

nerp

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I've encountered an interesting situation.

For a while, I was running me E2180 at 3ghz and the bios vcore was set at 1.35. All seemed well. But CPUz was reporting the max vcore under load was 1.26. Eh? Disabling C1E and EIST didn't change anything -- the vcore would just stick at 1.26. With C1E and EIST enabled it would drop down to about 1.15 vcore or so at idle.

So I bump it up to 3.2 ghz and turn C1E and EIST off. Set vcore to 1.41 in BIOS and now cpuz is reporting vcore of about 1.38 to 1.39 idle, 1.37 under load. OCCT and Orthos stable. Go into BIOS, turn C1E and EIST back on and she's running perfectly, dropping down to x6 multi at idle with vcore of 1.25 or so and under load going to 1.37 to 1.38.

Running at x8 or x9 multi for some reason locks the CPU at 2ghz.

BIOS settings seem to not take if I try to adjust vcore with C1E and Speedstep enabled. Disabling, finding the vcore and OC settings and THEN turning them back on works fine. Is there any explanation for this behavior? I've seen people with similar vcore discrepancies between the bios and cpuz earlier in this great thread. I haven't seen too much followup from those users on the situation.

Thanks. Loving this board, BTW. Solid.

Running BIOS 16 beta
 

big4x4

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I have had this board for about 1 month with my e6400 oc'd at 3.5 ghz @ 1.3 volts. I just realized today that I don't have the 8 pin connector plugged in to the board! Will that pose a problem? I have the 24 pin and 4 pin plugged in though. BTW I am 72 hour Orthos stable so I don't really want to change anything.

Also, I tested this motherboard on Orthos @ 465 FSB and it was 100% stable with default volts after 10 hours!
 

Heidfirst

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Originally posted by: big4x4
I just realized today that I don't have the 8 pin connector plugged in to the board! Will that pose a problem? I have the 24 pin and 4 pin plugged in though. !
presumably by 4-pin you mean the ATX12V1 rather than ATX4P1?
If so it's fine.
If you did meant ATX4P1 afaik it shouldn't run without a 4/8-pin in ATX12V1 ...