Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

[TungFree]

SerpentRoyal, RMA Raptor arrived, works fine.

Fan replacement should have come Monday and may come today. Amazing I bought this system almost 45 days ago and all the RMAs ( three of them; Ram, Raptor HDD, cooler) in one assembly of parts I have it on its back waiting For the Cooler.

Do you just over clock in SP1? How do you bring XP up to date? install sp2 then the hours and hours of updates? or do you leave computer in Sp1 and ignore all updates? I forgot to ask you that a couple of weeks ago.

 

[RFV]

That's the point, the IP35-E was up on the Abit global website right next to the Pro, it was one of the highlited products, now it's disappeared and also disappeared from Abit's 2008 catalogue. I can still find plenty on dealer shelves here in the UK, but in my mind Abit have shot themselves in the foot if they are discontinuing the production of IP35-E boards. I'm also wondering what this will mean for future BIOS updates from Abit.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: TungFree
SerpentRoyal, RMA Raptor arrived, works fine.

Fan replacement should have come Monday and may come today. Amazing I bought this system almost 45 days ago and all the RMAs ( three of them; Ram, Raptor HDD, cooler) in one assembly of parts I have it on its back waiting For the Cooler.

Do you just over clock in SP1? How do you bring XP up to date? install sp2 then the hours and hours of updates? or do you leave computer in Sp1 and ignore all updates? I forgot to ask you that a couple of weeks ago.

I run WXP Pro SP1 unpatched since 2001! No problemo. It's faster than SP2 and SP3 RC. If you live in a nasty neighborhood and use wireless internet, then you will need to install the wireless patch to upgrade your WiFi security protocol. WEP is pretty easy to crack. I design a little parabolic reflector to make my WiFi signal more directional.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: RFV
That's the point, the IP35-E was up on the Abit global website right next to the Pro, it was one of the highlited products, now it's disappeared and also disappeared from Abit's 2008 catalogue. I can still find plenty on dealer shelves here in the UK, but in my mind Abit have shot themselves in the foot if they are discontinuing the production of IP35-E boards. I'm also wondering what this will mean for future BIOS updates from Abit.

They are betting that X38 and 35V will fill the void. IP35 Pro costs too much $. Performance is on par with IP35/IP35-E if you take away the bells and whistles. Why pay $150 for the Pro when you can achieve similar performance with a $100 MSI board?

Abit will bring back IP35-E once they cannot unload the IP35V.

 

[kknd1967]

SerpentRoyal, you saved my day! I was planning to make many calls and post many questions to resolve the problem. And yeah now it is back on

This is indeed an anonying bug. I will do some research per your reference and see whether I need to RMA this or not.

Thank you!

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: kknd1967
Please HELP!
I have been using the motherboard without any problem for 4 months. After vacation, I tried to wake up the machine from sleep and I got blank screen, with my 8800GT fan running at high (which should only happen for the first 1~2 sec after any restart).

I did a hard restart, same problem and there is even no dual boot I typically experienced. Only all the fans are running as normal.

Clearing CMOS, unplug PSU does not help either...

Last time when I had memory problem, it hang up after dual boot. This time, it won't even do that

Is the motherboard dead? btw I did not do any OC on this machine.

You may have a boad with a defective surface mount transistor. If the ambient temperature is under 60F, then the board will not post. There's a discussion about this issue a few pages back including link to the location of the suspect transistor. Get a hair dryer and GENTLY heat up the affected area (lowest heat setting). Now see if the board will start.

If you're lazy, then wait for room temp to go above 70F and restart PC.

Never leave the PC in sleep mode for extended period of in-activity. A power surge can damage the equipment. Turn off the PC, or better...pull the plug from the wall if you go on vacation.

 

[RFV]

I do hope so ... for the money, it's the best P35 motherboard you can buy!

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: kknd1967
SerpentRoyal, you saved my day! I was planning to make many calls and post many questions to resolve the problem. And yeah now it is back on

This is indeed an anonying bug. I will do some research per your reference and see whether I need to RMA this or not.

Thank you!

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: kknd1967
Please HELP!
I have been using the motherboard without any problem for 4 months. After vacation, I tried to wake up the machine from sleep and I got blank screen, with my 8800GT fan running at high (which should only happen for the first 1~2 sec after any restart).

I did a hard restart, same problem and there is even no dual boot I typically experienced. Only all the fans are running as normal.

Clearing CMOS, unplug PSU does not help either...

Last time when I had memory problem, it hang up after dual boot. This time, it won't even do that

Is the motherboard dead? btw I did not do any OC on this machine.

You may have a boad with a defective surface mount transistor. If the ambient temperature is under 60F, then the board will not post. There's a discussion about this issue a few pages back including link to the location of the suspect transistor. Get a hair dryer and GENTLY heat up the affected area (lowest heat setting). Now see if the board will start.

If you're lazy, then wait for room temp to go above 70F and restart PC.

Never leave the PC in sleep mode for extended period of in-activity. A power surge can damage the equipment. Turn off the PC, or better...pull the plug from the wall if you go on vacation.

The magic number is 63F ambient. If the room is above 65F, then the board should POST. You can leave the PC ON 24/7 or RMA the board. Ask Abit to replace this transistor, only. I would not accept another used board.

To confirm this problem, put ice water or warm water in a plastic bag and apply the bag over the affected transistor. An ice/heat pad works well. I've seen about a dozen cases between here and the Abit forum. There are probably several hundred affected units in the field.

 

[TungFree]

SerpentRoyal: run WXP Pro SP1 unpatched since 2001! No problemo. It's faster than SP2 and SP3 RC. If you live in a nasty neighborhood and use wireless internet, then you will need to install the wireless patch to upgrade your WiFi security protocol. WEP is pretty easy to crack. I design a little parabolic reflector to make my WiFi signal more directional.

I use cable internet

Is there a way to disable the warnings of security upgrade need each boot up?

 

[SerpentRoyal]

You'll be okay if PC is connected by wire (no WiFi signal to hack).

XP SP1 should not come with the Security Center module. You can disable update checking by right clicking My Computer\Properties\Automatic Updates and uncheck automatic update.

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: RFV
Abit have removed the IP35-E from the global main webpage, in it's place sits the inferior IP35V which looks cheap, ugly and on looks alone I would not want to buy one.

IP35-E is still on the Global website as current
http://www2.abit.com.tw/page/e...E=IP35-E&fMTYPE=LGA775

& it's in abit's catalogue for Q1 2008.

 

[TungFree]

I have never owned a video card with ATI Radion ( I have owned 5 ) that did not have difficulties with drivers, installing and working the first time. I like them when they work, but this time again I had problems.

the original disk that came with the card the computer was griping and was not working right.

I went to the MSI site and downloaded, this enormous over 250 megabyte packet of driver for this video card. When trying to install it it kept saying I have too long a path and over used the 88 permitted characters.

So I moved the folder it was in to the root directory and tried again, the same requester of over 88 characters path.

So I went to ATI and tried their latest drivers, downloaded the one full package of about 50 megabytes all inclusive, and installed it. The driver is not griping anymore but I get an unknown device detected and have no clue what driver to feed it. The wizard cannot find the driver. Additionally I get a requester that some program is unable to complete itself. I have not added any updates just the fresh SP2 installation of XP pro. Installing the drivers has slowed down the computer considerably when booting up, it seems a bit sluggish for 3.0 ghz compared to the speed before the drivers were installed.

I now plan to restore my saved version of the fresh install with the 3 drivers on my Raptor drive, so and posing my difficulties for any help anyone can think of why.
only have the video card in my slots and in USB I have 2 additional hard drives and a one gig USB memory stick

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Remove USB devices and retest. I usually stick with Nvidia due to the use of NF3/NF4 boards. No issue with the 6000 and 7000 GPUs/IP35-E.

 

[TungFree]

once I restore my saved fresh install with 3 drivers to the Raptor, how will the computer know which on to boot from? in IDE we had a 1stMaster and a 2nd Master. Do I need at first to disconnect the drive or to delete the OS on that partition after I have the Raptor booting up?


And I will now need to reinstall the MSI video drivers I wonder if anyone also on this thread had my video card and the same 88 character warning and unable to install the pack from MSI

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Install the OS on the boot HDD. The other two HDDs should not have a boot partition so they should not be an issue. As always, zero fill them before use. Always format additional non-bootable drives as extended logical partition.

 

[TungFree]

SerpentRoyal: Install the OS on the boot HDD. The other two HDDs should not have a boot partition so they should not be an issue. As always, zero fill them before use. Always format additional non-bootable drives as extended logical partition.

If you may recall I had backedup my boot partition of the 500 gig hard drive with a fresh install and the 3 drivers intel, audio, and lan

I now restored that boot partition of the 500gig backup to my Raptor,
I now have 2 boot paritions one in each hard drive. What can I do in Sata to tell the computer not to boot from my 500 gig do I in partition magic chang it to a storage disk?

So for now I disconnected the 500 gig to be sure the Raptor boots up and trying to get all the rest of the drivers in.

When I restor a fresh install imasge from a zero formated hard drive to a new Hard drive, does the Raptor not receive all the benefits of a factory settings?

that asked I have one more questions.

1. The computer has the full High Defenition driver installed from Abit. However it gripes that "High defenition audio bus needs a driver" is that different from what I installed?

so I downloaded the r164 High defenition driver bundle and installed it yet again, I reboot and it says "High defenition audio bus serches for a driver"

I tried then putting in the CD that came with the board and it canoot find that driver on the CD, even if I try to reinstall the sound drivers all over again. I get th same requestor"High defenition audio bus serches for a driver"

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Make an image file of the OS and put this image file in an extended logical partition on the boot HDD. No need for the other HDDs.

14 BIOS and the Realtek 182 drivers should automatically install the proper audio HD files. Order of installation should be Intel chipset, reboot, LAN, reboot, audio, reboot.

 

[TungFree]

Make an image file of the OS and put this image file in an extended logical partition on the boot HDD. No need for the other HDDs.

14 BIOS and the Realtek 182 drivers should automatically install the proper audio HD files. Order of installation should be Intel chipset, reboot, LAN, reboot, audio, reboot..

Now in answer to the sound driver download at ABIT it is not 182 it is r1.64 where do you get the 182?

Are we on the same page? .
I just received the RMA Raptor 74 gig drive. Sata
The old drive is Sata 500 gig with 2 partitions one primary with which I had been booting and one logical where I saved the image which I now restored to the Raptor. I have lots of data on my primary drive, I suppose I could copy it to my second partition and delete the primary, in Samsung 500gig and keep only Raptor primary

So I go get the ATI drivers for the 2400 series Radion MSI video card install it reboot and get the following requester

mom.exe Application error
The application failed to initialize proprly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application.

As to the order of installing the drivers I did that order you say, Intel chipset, reboot, LAN, reboot, audio, reboot..

I could start with my fresh install image without drivers and do it over with those 3 drivers in that order, but I do recall doing it in that order before I had backed up the second image.

Then I get a requester that says:
Product registration Register your ATI product with AMD Customer Care for warantee service, support and AMD/Ati Communications

of course I did not register it but ATI thinks I have an Athlon not a Q6600

What gives?

But the graphics are working fine

 

[Krash]

Back in stock at the Egg.
No bargain - $89.99 w/ $6.61 shipping.
Maybe the rumor of a rebate was premature.
At least they're still around.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Still the best deal right now if you need a quality overclocking board that will do 500-525MHz FSB.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: TungFree

Make an image file of the OS and put this image file in an extended logical partition on the boot HDD. No need for the other HDDs.

14 BIOS and the Realtek 182 drivers should automatically install the proper audio HD files. Order of installation should be Intel chipset, reboot, LAN, reboot, audio, reboot..

Now in answer to the sound driver download at ABIT it is not 182 it is r1.64 where do you get the 182?

Are we on the same page? .
I just received the RMA Raptor 74 gig drive. Sata
The old drive is Sata 500 gig with 2 partitions one primary with which I had been booting and one logical where I saved the image which I now restored to the Raptor. I have lots of data on my primary drive, I suppose I could copy it to my second partition and delete the primary, in Samsung 500gig and keep only Raptor primary

So I go get the ATI drivers for the 2400 series Radion MSI video card install it reboot and get the following requester

mom.exe Application error
The application failed to initialize proprly (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application.

As to the order of installing the drivers I did that order you say, Intel chipset, reboot, LAN, reboot, audio, reboot..

I could start with my fresh install image without drivers and do it over with those 3 drivers in that order, but I do recall doing it in that order before I had backed up the second image.

Then I get a requester that says:
Product registration Register your ATI product with AMD Customer Care for warantee service, support and AMD/Ati Communications

of course I did not register it but ATI thinks I have an Athlon not a Q6600

What gives?

But the graphics are working fine

Go to the realtek home page to download the latest audio drivers. That said, I don't have any issue with the drivers from the CD.

The difference is probably the ATI GPU. I think AMD is trying to sabotage your Intel rig.

 

[JBT]

Okay so I just got my new PSU Coolmaster 750 watt.... I thought I would try to improve my OC a bit as I felt my last Seasonic 460 with 25a on the 12v rail may have been holding me back...

So anyways. I have 4x1GB sticks of PC 6400 SuperTalent RAM. At first I was just working on the core clock of my CPU. So far I have gotten to 3.3GHz with vcore of ~1.36 in windows. I then started to creep my memory up as I had set it below PC6400 speeds for testing. Now that I am working the memory up I am getting better results by LOWERING the vdimm...

Previously I had been running it at DDR850 with vdimm set to 1.95. Now that I have changed some ratios my memory was going to be ~880. This made me think I should raise the vdiimm up. first I tried 2.0.... No luck BSOD on boot up... hmm okay lets go 2.1 .... nope just freezes at a black screen... Okay 2.2 same thing. For giggles I try 1.95... It loads windows but fails prime in a few seconds.... Weird okay lets try just 1.9... Boots windows and smooth sailing on prime so far... Been running about an hour.

Any idea whats up with this? The RAM is not running hot. I have a CM Gemini II HSF with dual 120MM fans and it is blowing right on the RAM. It is cool to the touch.

This is with the BIOS dated 8/15/2007. I think it is the v12 BIOS possibly v13...

EDIT: Well it ended up failing Prime last night at around 4 hours back to the drawing board.

 

[imported_Section8]

I just built a system with this motherboard. Here are the essentials:

Abit IP35-E, E6320, 2 gigs Gskill DDR2 444,18, EVGA 8600GT, Antec True Power 350w PSU, 80 gig HD with sata adapter, WXPSP2, Sony DVD/RW. No BIOS change, yet.

Install was smooth, no glitches. Here is the problem. In games eg. Overlord, HL2, Call of Duty 2 the video and audio studders. Could this be the video card or a driver problem or is this a BIOS issue. I have a 6800GS I can swap with the 8600GT to help rule out the video. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Oh, no OC yet either.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: JBT
Okay so I just got my new PSU Coolmaster 750 watt.... I thought I would try to improve my OC a bit as I felt my last Seasonic 460 with 25a on the 12v rail may have been holding me back...

So anyways. I have 4x1GB sticks of PC 6400 SuperTalent RAM. At first I was just working on the core clock of my CPU. So far I have gotten to 3.3GHz with vcore of ~1.36 in windows. I then started to creep my memory up as I had set it below PC6400 speeds for testing. Now that I am working the memory up I am getting better results by LOWERING the vdimm...

Previously I had been running it at DDR850 with vdimm set to 1.95. Now that I have changed some ratios my memory was going to be ~880. This made me think I should raise the vdiimm up. first I tried 2.0.... No luck BSOD on boot up... hmm okay lets go 2.1 .... nope just freezes at a black screen... Okay 2.2 same thing. For giggles I try 1.95... It loads windows but fails prime in a few seconds.... Weird okay lets try just 1.9... Boots windows and smooth sailing on prime so far... Been running about an hour.

Any idea whats up with this? The RAM is not running hot. I have a CM Gemini II HSF with dual 120MM fans and it is blowing right on the RAM. It is cool to the touch.

This is with the BIOS dated 8/15/2007. I think it is the v12 BIOS possibly v13...

EDIT: Well it ended up failing Prime last night at around 4 hours back to the drawing board.

Use 1:1 memory divider and the higher stable core speed. Do not mess around with RAM voltage and timing if you don't have a lot of tweaking experience.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Section8
I just built a system with this motherboard. Here are the essentials:

Abit IP35-E, E6320, 2 gigs Gskill DDR2 444,18, EVGA 8600GT, Antec True Power 350w PSU, 80 gig HD with sata adapter, WXPSP2, Sony DVD/RW. No BIOS change, yet.

Install was smooth, no glitches. Here is the problem. In games eg. Overlord, HL2, Call of Duty 2 the video and audio studders. Could this be the video card or a driver problem or is this a BIOS issue. I have a 6800GS I can swap with the 8600GT to help rule out the video. Any assistance would be appreciated.

Oh, no OC yet either.

Video artifacts are due to problem with video drivers, GPU, or GPU cooling.

 

[JBT]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: JBT
Okay so I just got my new PSU Coolmaster 750 watt.... I thought I would try to improve my OC a bit as I felt my last Seasonic 460 with 25a on the 12v rail may have been holding me back...

So anyways. I have 4x1GB sticks of PC 6400 SuperTalent RAM. At first I was just working on the core clock of my CPU. So far I have gotten to 3.3GHz with vcore of ~1.36 in windows. I then started to creep my memory up as I had set it below PC6400 speeds for testing. Now that I am working the memory up I am getting better results by LOWERING the vdimm...

Previously I had been running it at DDR850 with vdimm set to 1.95. Now that I have changed some ratios my memory was going to be ~880. This made me think I should raise the vdiimm up. first I tried 2.0.... No luck BSOD on boot up... hmm okay lets go 2.1 .... nope just freezes at a black screen... Okay 2.2 same thing. For giggles I try 1.95... It loads windows but fails prime in a few seconds.... Weird okay lets try just 1.9... Boots windows and smooth sailing on prime so far... Been running about an hour.

Any idea whats up with this? The RAM is not running hot. I have a CM Gemini II HSF with dual 120MM fans and it is blowing right on the RAM. It is cool to the touch.

This is with the BIOS dated 8/15/2007. I think it is the v12 BIOS possibly v13...

EDIT: Well it ended up failing Prime last night at around 4 hours back to the drawing board.

Use 1:1 memory divider and the higher stable core speed. Do not mess around with RAM voltage and timing if you don't have a lot of tweaking experience.

I've been OCing for years as well as tweaking RAM settings. It just struck me as odd that its more stable with lower voltage and was wondering if others had had any similar experiences.