Abit IP35-E Review (500MHz FSB board)...$90 @ NewEgg + $6.61 ship

[Kupe]

I completely agree there. I've tried going to Vista for my HTPC a few times, but I can't even get hardware acceleration for DVDs on my geforce 8500GT in media center, let alone HD OTA or anything else. There are just too many programs and drivers that aren't up to speed, in addition to whatever other problems there may be with Vista itself.

Anyway, in an attempt to stay somewhat on topic, I was able to see what my power usage was today. 131 Watts idle, 206 Watts load with C1E on and EIST off. I'm not doing anymore experimentation until I get my other cooling items.

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Kupe
I completely agree there. I've tried going to Vista for my HTPC a few times, but I can't even get hardware acceleration for DVDs on my geforce 8500GT in media center, let alone HD OTA or anything else. There are just too many programs and drivers that aren't up to speed, in addition to whatever other problems there may be with Vista itself.

Anyway, in an attempt to stay somewhat on topic, I was able to see what my power usage was today. 131 Watts idle, 206 Watts load with C1E on and EIST off. I'm not doing anymore experimentation until I get my other cooling items.

hmm that's pretty good i think.. i wonder how much is attributed to the video card.

just goes to show you really don't need a really high wattage power supply for these builds.

 

[Gepidae]

Hey I hope you guys dont mind me posting my ocing here for eval. and help =). So I got it up and running and I just did some quick oc-ing to check for temps, nothing to crazy as of now.

Temp at 3.0 ghz on my e6550

This is the IP-35 along with default volt on everything. How what does everyone think of the temps?

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Hey I hope you guys dont mind me posting my ocing here for eval. and help =). So I got it up and running and I just did some quick oc-ing to check for temps, nothing to crazy as of now.

Temp at 3.0 ghz on my e6550

This is the IP-35 along with default volt on everything. How what does everyone think of the temps?

i'm assuming that's at idle.. that's pretty good but you should stress test it and then report temps at load.

 

[Gepidae]

Yup sorry I forgot to mention that IS on IDLE. I did orthos for about 20 mins and I got temps at around ~50 (give or take 5 degrees up and down). Ambient was fairly cool I would say around the ~70 degree area

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Yup sorry I forgot to mention that IS on IDLE. I did orthos for about 20 mins and I got temps at around ~50 (give or take 5 degrees up and down). Ambient was fairly cool I would say around the ~70 degree area

what kind of cooling are you using?

i get about the same idle temps with my thermalright ultra-120 extreme

 

[AlucardX]

I'm having trouble getting Abit's uGuru to show or do anything under Vista. I'm not sure on the version but I downloaded all my abit stuff from this link: http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=147163

When I open it, I get the window, the buttons, but no actual status text. the lower/big window is all blank, and the top portion that has cpu mhz, and the turbo/normal/user stuff is just 0's.

 

[Heidfirst]

You do have a Pro?
Only the Pro has uGuru.

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst
You do have a Pro?
Only the Pro has uGuru.

well that explains that.. I have the IP35.

I believe anything reproted in uGuru I can get through other utilities. except perhaps all the voltages.

 

[Gepidae]

Im using stock intel cooler AlucardX, my coolermaster hyper tx should come in by next week. Im not sure of Vista but Abit EQ works fine for me under xp pro. Hey does anyone know where I can make my fan spin at 100%. In BIOS I see fan control but all I see mainly is target temp (30 degrees C being the lowest)

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Im using stock intel cooler AlucardX, my coolermaster hyper tx should come in by next week. Im not sure of Vista but Abit EQ works fine for me under xp pro. Hey does anyone know where I can make my fan spin at 100%. In BIOS I see fan control but all I see mainly is target temp (30 degrees C being the lowest)

it should be on that same bios screen, if not i think its called something like Abit FanEQ.. in there you can just turn it off.

 

[Gepidae]

Well I dont need to turn it off, rather I need to make it spin at 100%

 

[AlucardX]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Well I dont need to turn it off, rather I need to make it spin at 100%

yes exactly, your turning fan control off, hence it always runs at 100%

 

[Gepidae]

O ok got it thanks. And what option did you end disabling in bios to achieve your oc?

 

[AlucardX]

i haven't oc'd yet, i haven't had time to play with it.

theres a few things you need to disable. i recommend reading through this thread, http://www.xtremesystems.org/f...howthread.php?t=147163

 

[pdawg1717]

When using EIST/C1E, can someone explain why power options should be set to "power saving"? I have always had it on "maximum performance" and have not seen any problems but what should I be looking for?

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Kupe
I completely agree there. I've tried going to Vista for my HTPC a few times, but I can't even get hardware acceleration for DVDs on my geforce 8500GT in media center, let alone HD OTA or anything else. There are just too many programs and drivers that aren't up to speed, in addition to whatever other problems there may be with Vista itself.

Anyway, in an attempt to stay somewhat on topic, I was able to see what my power usage was today. 131 Watts idle, 206 Watts load with C1E on and EIST off. I'm not doing anymore experimentation until I get my other cooling items.

Actual power used by the PC is 20% lower, assuming that your PSU is 80% efficient at those loads. I usually use 0.73 as the correction factor. 131 x 0.73 = 95 actual watts.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Yup sorry I forgot to mention that IS on IDLE. I did orthos for about 20 mins and I got temps at around ~50 (give or take 5 degrees up and down). Ambient was fairly cool I would say around the ~70 degree area

Good numbers.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: pdawg1717
When using EIST/C1E, can someone explain why power options should be set to "power saving"? I have always had it on "maximum performance" and have not seen any problems but what should I be looking for?

Look at my post on 07/30/2007 10:29 PM.

 

[Gepidae]

Ok guys ran into probs ocing. I cant seem to push my fsb further. Im still on stock volts. When I try to up my fsb to 1.4 something it still wont boot with fsb of ~460. What do you guys recommend? Im still on stock intel cooler. Temps are fine around 27, 24

Temps

 

[pdawg1717]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: pdawg1717
When using EIST/C1E, can someone explain why power options should be set to "power saving"? I have always had it on "maximum performance" and have not seen any problems but what should I be looking for?

Look at my post on 07/30/2007 10:29 PM.

Sorry...I actually did read that post and you stated it can "cause problems"...that's what I'm not clear on as I haven't seen any noticable problems but maybe I'm not seeing something...

 

[Gepidae]

Does anyone think there might be a FSB wall?

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: pdawg1717

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: pdawg1717
When using EIST/C1E, can someone explain why power options should be set to "power saving"? I have always had it on "maximum performance" and have not seen any problems but what should I be looking for?

Look at my post on 07/30/2007 10:29 PM.

Sorry...I actually did read that post and you stated it can "cause problems"...that's what I'm not clear on as I haven't seen any noticable problems but maybe I'm not seeing something...

1. You need to use the default multiplier when you engage C1E and EIST because the CPU may receive the wrong voltage during CPU throttling.

2. C1E and EIST are specifically coded to work with WXP's Minimal Power Management mode. If you set the PC to ALWAYS ON or DESKTOP mode, then the CPU will think that you want to run at full power ALL THE TIME. For example, my rig will not reduce the core speed if I set to DESKTOP mode. Vcore will also stay above 1.3 when it should drop to 1.1V (CPU is at 0% load).

Vista will also behave in a similar manner, although I didn't spend that much time with that OS...too slow and buggy. Will re-evaluated after SP1.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: Gepidae
Ok guys ran into probs ocing. I cant seem to push my fsb further. Im still on stock volts. When I try to up my fsb to 1.4 something it still wont boot with fsb of ~460. What do you guys recommend? Im still on stock intel cooler. Temps are fine around 27, 24

Temps

Bump Vcore to 1.4 or 1.45. Also raise northbridge voltage up two nothches, and southbridge voltage up one notch. Even with the lowest 1:1 memory divider, your RAM is already pushing 455MHz. That's DDR2 900! Use CPUz to confirm memory speed. You may need to bump vdimm up to 2.2 and manually adjust timing to 5-5-5-15. Use Memtest to verify that RAM is stable at this speed.

You may have hit the FSB wall of that particular CPU. I also recommend people to avoid 7x multi. Too much stress on RAM and CPU. This board should be able to hit 488MHz.

 

[bryanW1995]

that's interesting that you get correct readings in coretemp. mine has the 15c offset, it's showing idle of 15c at 3.2 and 21c at 3.7. My load temp right now running orthos at 3.704 is 66c on both cores (after adjusting for the 15c offset). I had to REALLY jack up the voltage for these last few mhz, I think I'm about done with this guy.