Lowly IDE users gotta put up with the double post. Still a fantastic board out-of-the-box...probably the best sub $100 board deal for C2D. Nearest competitor is Gigabyte $130 P35 offering.
C1E and EIST are designed to save power and reduce heat output. To take full advantage of these features, you need to set the power mode to MINIMAL. If you set to DESKTOP mode, then the system will assume that you want to run the PC at full power all the time. This and cause problem with C1E and EIST.
Man, I never knew that about the power schemes. Sure enough, what you say is on Intel's site:
http://www.intel.com/cd/channe...asmo-na/eng/203838.htm
This has all been very educational so far. I'll be getting one of those Kill A Watt monitors in the mail tomorrow or Wednesday, so I'll do some testing and see if it's even worth worrying over. It seems that I have to increase my voltage quite a bit to use EIST, which I feel may negate the power savings it would bring. Not to mention the extra cooling needed.
http://www.intel.com/cd/channe...asmo-na/eng/203838.htm
This has all been very educational so far. I'll be getting one of those Kill A Watt monitors in the mail tomorrow or Wednesday, so I'll do some testing and see if it's even worth worrying over. It seems that I have to increase my voltage quite a bit to use EIST, which I feel may negate the power savings it would bring. Not to mention the extra cooling needed.
Got dammit. It really has no RAID. I just have been thinking about it as one of the best M/B's for new Intel Cpu's. Doh...
Seems odd though as afaik it's something to do with strap initialisation that's at the root of this - I don't see why having a SCSI card would change it
. Would be interesting to see if others could replicate it.So get the IP35 rather than IP35-E, mwave has it for $113 after rebate.
Just get the Pro, its the more higher end one. I feel too cheap getting the Abit IP35E for some reason. OH well, saves alot of money though.
I have 2 stix of ballistix pc6400, they work fine in P5B
I put them in dimm 1 and 3, or dimm 2 and 4, but windows would only detec 1 GB
I put them in dimm 1 and 3, or dimm 2 and 4, but windows would only detec 1 GB
Need to take out the battery and reset CMOS again. Use same colored slot. These sticks need at least 2.1Vdimm. Also manually set the timing to 5-5-5-15. You should see a memory check screen when you turn on PC. If not, then go into the BIOS and set to display memory self-check. If you see 2GB during POST, then the problem is with windows. Did you wiped the HDD and clean-installed windows? Try one stick at a time to see if windows will boot.
Also reseat both sticks.
Also reseat both sticks.
Not if it's properly executed. My rig still require 1.465Vcore to run stable at 3.46GHz, INDEPENDENT of C1E/EIST. Always stick to default multiplier or you will confuse the speedstep protocol.
So why run C1E and EIST? When your PC isn't running at 100% load, the CPU can throttle back to a lower multiplier and voltage. The result is lower core CPU temperature when the CPU is not under full-load. It is possible to run at a higher Vcore with this strategy because the CPU doesn't have to work at the full-load voltage all the time.
That's the beauty of dynamic overclocking. Higher Vcore on demand. Lower Vcore when idling. Power savings is about 10 watts at the wall.
Only your accountant will know the difference. Once inside the case, there is virtually no speed/performance difference between IP35-E and IP35 Pro...minus the extra bells and whistles, of course.
I could live with the double post, because it's an Intel thing. However, it would drive me crazy knowing that I spent 80% more $ for a board that could only do 14.4MB/s via 1394!
I have E1ST/C1E turned on but have been using "maximum performance mode" mainly because I don't want my hdds turning off or my comp going to sleep...what is the setting that is different between the two? Then I could leave it on maximum performance but still have the cpu management correct for enabling EIST/C1E...
Vista is not my main OS so I'm going by memory. Are you sure that the balance mode will turn-off your HDDs? C1E and EIST work well in balance mode. Unlike WXP, I don't think there's an option to manually set the power state of monitors and HDDs.
ON/OFF shouldn't affect the life of your HDD during the first 5 years of use.
ON/OFF shouldn't affect the life of your HDD during the first 5 years of use.
Yeah, I see what you mean about the confusion. Many different programs detect that I'm running at 3.6 when I'm running at 3.2. So, against your suggestion I ordered a freezer 7 pro and I'll try 3.6 with C1E and EIST again. It was only $25 shipped, so I figure if it doesn't work out it's not too big of a loss. I'm just biased against Thermaltake for some bad experiences with previous products of theirs I've owned.
FP is an okay cooler back in the days of A64. C2D puts out tons of heat with just a minor bump in Vcore. I need a balance of high performance and quiet operation found in the BT. Since my RAM is running at 480MHz, the BT's platform allows me to strap another 80 mm Panaflo to its side to cool the RAM, NB, and SB.
High voltage and heat kill CPUs. C1E and EIST address these issues, with mininal impact on speed.
High voltage and heat kill CPUs. C1E and EIST address these issues, with mininal impact on speed.
I recently built mine on Sunday, and also experience the double boot. im really glad i read this thread before i built it, because the first time i booted it outside the case it did it, but i knew exactly what it was and didn't freak out
specs:
IP35
e6850
Thermalright Ultra-120 extreme
2x1gb Crucial Balistix Tracer DDR2-1066
evga 8800 gts 320mb
ocz 600w p/s
1x 74gb raptor, 1x 300gb SATA seagate, 2x IDE cdrw/dvdr
Everything is default right now, I haven't had time to play around with it, I don't even have any games installed yet. I currently have Vista 32bit up and running, but at some point in the evening my computer powered off, died, or went to sleep mode. I was too busy with a lady friend to play around with it but i'll investigate it tonight. I'm hoping its just a stupid Vista power setting (even though i put it on high performance mode).
specs:
IP35
e6850
Thermalright Ultra-120 extreme
2x1gb Crucial Balistix Tracer DDR2-1066
evga 8800 gts 320mb
ocz 600w p/s
1x 74gb raptor, 1x 300gb SATA seagate, 2x IDE cdrw/dvdr
Everything is default right now, I haven't had time to play around with it, I don't even have any games installed yet. I currently have Vista 32bit up and running, but at some point in the evening my computer powered off, died, or went to sleep mode. I was too busy with a lady friend to play around with it but i'll investigate it tonight. I'm hoping its just a stupid Vista power setting (even though i put it on high performance mode).
Vista will put your PC to sleep. Move the mouse/hit the keyboard. It should come alive. You may crack the 3.6GHz barrier with that rig.
yea i'm going to be playing around with it all night.. its the first time i've used Vista so i guess i can expect this.
I need to dig further into the advanced properties for power management. also, I want to keep my harddrives running but didn't see an option for "never" (for idle time), it only has a number box for number of minutes to wait until spin down. maybe 0 will turn it off?
not sure when i'll be stress testing and overclocking, i think i'll just enjoy some games that always played like crap, and some ET:QW beta tonite. even at stock speeds, this thing is so much faster than my old athlon-xp-m 2.3ghz, nV 6800
Vista Users:
i know this is offtopic but we all have very similar hardware and i need some help.
i'm having a problem in utorrent (or any bt client) where i'm getting a "Listen error" down on the bottom, its a red " ! ". I can DL but not upload anything. i've tried every suggestion i found by searching google to no avail.
1. router: forwarded default listen port (8080), forwarded a custom one
2. disable windows firewall
3. went into windows firewall adv settings (start->type firewall in search, first item). did custom inbound/outbound rules for UDP + TCP for port 8080
4. disabled IPV6 and QOS
5. rebooted
this never happened with WinXP
EDIT: well after spending all night on this nonsense, i tried bitcomet instead and that seemed to function properly. so i went back to utorrent to see what's different and it didn't like the '49152' port i was using. i switched to 49180 which is not in my router settings and it started working. then added to this router firewall and everything's still ok.
what a waste of a night. :|
i know this is offtopic but we all have very similar hardware and i need some help.
i'm having a problem in utorrent (or any bt client) where i'm getting a "Listen error" down on the bottom, its a red " ! ". I can DL but not upload anything. i've tried every suggestion i found by searching google to no avail.
1. router: forwarded default listen port (8080), forwarded a custom one
2. disable windows firewall
3. went into windows firewall adv settings (start->type firewall in search, first item). did custom inbound/outbound rules for UDP + TCP for port 8080
4. disabled IPV6 and QOS
5. rebooted
this never happened with WinXP
EDIT: well after spending all night on this nonsense, i tried bitcomet instead and that seemed to function properly. so i went back to utorrent to see what's different and it didn't like the '49152' port i was using. i switched to 49180 which is not in my router settings and it started working. then added to this router firewall and everything's still ok.
what a waste of a night. :|
I'm still using WXP Pro SP1 after spending two months with Vista Business. I'll wait till Vista SP1 before restoring the Vista image file. IMO, Vista is not ready for prime time.
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