Abit IP35-E Problem, No POST

[pilipnoi]

Well I'm not quite sure if I have the cold boot problem but I'm pretty sure I have the same symptoms as those who do. Here's my setup:

CPU: E4400 (Overclocked to 3.2GHz @ 1.448V)
Cooler: Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (Lapped)
MOBO: IP35-E (BIOS 11 or 12, can't remember)
Memory: 2GB Crucial Ballistix, PC2-6400, DDR2-800 @ 4-4-4-12-2T
Video: eVGA 8800GTS (Overclocked to something I can't remember)
PSU: Silverstone Zeus 560W
OS: Windows XP - 32 Bit
Case: Temjin TJ09

I built it back in Oct. 07 and that's when I OC'ed the CPU and GPU. I made sure it was stable and everything. It's been working great these past 4 or 5 months. Today my comp froze so I turned it off and when I turned it back on it would do its double boot but would not post. I've replaced the PSU, GPU, and RAM individually to try and single out which part it could be. The only things left are the CPU or Mobo, but after doing more research I found about about this cold boot problem. My room's ambient temp is around 70F-73F and my comp always idled at around 33C-35C. I attempted to heat the transistors near the CPU and that still didn't work so I'm not sure if this is the cold boot problem. I've also reset the CMOS, taken out the battery and reset the CMOS, and almost anything else you could do with the CMOS but nothing. Weird thing is my roomate's comp did this same thing about a week ago. He's got the same setup as I do except with an E6750, so we're thinking it's got to be the MOBO. He already RMA'd it once and the replacement doesn't work either.

Sorry for the long post but I'm now trying to decide what to do. If anyone has any other suggestions on what could be wrong I'm all ears. Otherwise I don't know if I feel like attempting to RMA this board, and getting another dead board and having to go through the entire process again. I'm thinking it might be easier to just buy a new board, not sure if I wanna go P35 again or just upgrade to X38 though?

 

[xavier es]

i had all sorts of weird issues with my IP35-E, tested all parts, cleared cmos . was beginning to think something was wrong with the board. I reseated the cpu and the weirdness went away. I still have the cold boot issue if my room is colder than 80 or so, but thats not a problem for me as i hardly ever reboot.I'd say you should try reseating the cpu before chucking your mb.

 

[pilipnoi]

Thanks, I'll probably reseat the CPU this weekend and see if that works. It didn't work for my roommate with his original or his RMA'ed board. He bought a new CPU to see if that would fix the problem. But if we're both stuck with bad boards next week I think we're just gonna be going with a new x38 board.

 

[Tullphan]

I had problems w/mine after trying to change the memory timings.
It wouldn't do the dual-boot thing, just turn on & run but I wouldn't have video.
I took it out of the case & removed everything & reinstalled everything but didn't put it back in the case.
I hooked it up to an extra PSU I had & it started fine. I put it back in the case & same thing. I noticed that screwing in the top 3 screws @ the top of the mb had an adverse affect as well.
I'm using a Corsair HX520, so I moved the cable that controls the hdd's over a spot & bingo...boots up fine (double-boots, of course).
I don't know if this is anything like what you had, but that's been my experience.
Oh...I also had my SATA1 connector fall off.

 

[pilipnoi]

Well I completely took apart my computer, removed everything from the case, cleaned and dusted every component, reseated my CPU, put the mobo on a cardboard box and hooked up only the two power plugs, the video card and its power cable, one stick of ram, my mouse and keyboard and my monitor. And guess what...it POSTed! I got some "checksum error" or something like that and entered the BIOS to make sure all the settings were back to default. I then turned everything off to see if I could turn it on again, and now guess what....it won't POST anymore and now it's back to where I was before. I did all the CMOS clearing and everything and it still won't POST, so I ordered some new RAM and decided to see if that could be the problem, because I heard that the ballistix sticks have been giving problems to people, and my roomate and I both have ballistix which we've tried on our mobo's. We'll see how it goes with the new RAM.

Sorry to hear about your SATA1 connector Tullphan, seems like you had a tough time with your board.

 

[Soulkeeper]

hopefully it is the ram
i am also considering this motherboard, as i've had great experience with abit in the past

good luck, and let us know if that fixes the issue

 

[LeonarD26]

I had a similar problem last night, but maybe not as severe....

I had my board and new e2160 put together and had a stable over clock going, 3ghz with the stock HSF. I decided I wanted to remove the stock thermal paste and add some AS5 instead. I took out the cpu and HSF, clean both with alcohol, and then applied the AS5. When I put it all back together.... the machine would power on, but no POST.

I cleared the CMOS, and the machine finally booted, of course with the default settings. I went into Windows to make sure it was running well at stock, and then rebooted into the bios and upped the FSB a bunch (300) to test my overclock..... and black screen.. no post! I cleared the CMOS again.. etc etc., upped the FSB a small amount (maybe from 200 to 210) and that finally took.

I'm running the HP RAM that's been popular, and I had no stability problem before i reapplied the AS5.... Orthos and memtest stable... I should have left well enough alone! I made sure the CPU is seated correctly too.

This is with the latest version 15 bios.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: pilipnoi
Well I completely took apart my computer, removed everything from the case, cleaned and dusted every component, reseated my CPU, put the mobo on a cardboard box and hooked up only the two power plugs, the video card and its power cable, one stick of ram, my mouse and keyboard and my monitor. And guess what...it POSTed! I got some "checksum error" or something like that and entered the BIOS to make sure all the settings were back to default. I then turned everything off to see if I could turn it on again, and now guess what....it won't POST anymore and now it's back to where I was before. I did all the CMOS clearing and everything and it still won't POST, so I ordered some new RAM and decided to see if that could be the problem, because I heard that the ballistix sticks have been giving problems to people, and my roomate and I both have ballistix which we've tried on our mobo's. We'll see how it goes with the new RAM.

I have the same MB and 4 x 1 Gb Ballistix PC6400. This ram is rated for 2.2Vdimm but should post (mine did) at the default vdimm of 1.8V. Did you try posting with each stick? If you can get into the bios try upping the vdimm to 2.2V.

From posts in the Abit IP-35E thread the cold no post is not a problem until your room temp drops below 64F, and then only with some MBs.

 

[MadScientist]

Originally posted by: LeonarD26
I had a similar problem last night, but maybe not as severe....

I had my board and new e2160 put together and had a stable over clock going, 3ghz with the stock HSF. I decided I wanted to remove the stock thermal paste and add some AS5 instead. I took out the cpu and HSF, clean both with alcohol, and then applied the AS5. When I put it all back together.... the machine would power on, but no POST.

I cleared the CMOS, and the machine finally booted, of course with the default settings. I went into Windows to make sure it was running well at stock, and then rebooted into the bios and upped the FSB a bunch (300) to test my overclock..... and black screen.. no post! I cleared the CMOS again.. etc etc., upped the FSB a small amount (maybe from 200 to 210) and that finally took.

I'm running the HP RAM that's been popular, and I had no stability problem before i reapplied the AS5.... Orthos and memtest stable... I should have left well enough alone! I made sure the CPU is seated correctly too.

This is with the latest version 15 bios.

3.0 Ghz on a E2160 with a stock HSF is an excellent oc. I'd try reseating the HSF again. Did you apply the AS5 correctly? AS5 Application Instructions for Intel Dual Core CPU

Since you cleared the CMOS you may want to go back into the bios, Load Optimized Defaults, and start from scratch. Keep your ram at loose timings, i.e., 5-5-5-15, and below 800 mhz while oc'ing your CPU.

 

[LeonarD26]

I'm pretty sure I applied the AS5 correctly, but maybe I'll start over again. I followed those directions anyhow...

My biggest concern was why did the board no POST when I upped the FSB?? Was the CPU too hot? Man, I should have left well enough alone.. I just wanted to get my temps down.

Thanks for the advice!

 

[pilipnoi]

Originally posted by: MadScientist

I have the same MB and 4 x 1 Gb Ballistix PC6400. This ram is rated for 2.2Vdimm but should post (mine did) at the default vdimm of 1.8V. Did you try posting with each stick? If you can get into the bios try upping the vdimm to 2.2V.

From posts in the Abit IP-35E thread the cold no post is not a problem until your room temp drops below 64F, and then only with some MBs.

I've always been able to get the computer to POST at the default vdimm of 1.8V, it's never been a problem in the past. I tried posting with each stick and neither one will work. If i could ever get into the BIOS I would change it but no luck there . Hopefully something happens when I get the new sticks of RAM today.

 

[kknd1967]

I had exactly the same experience. My 4x1GB firestix 4-4-4-12 2.2v works for months and suddenly one day my computer froze and would not boot after double-post (if you see double-post, it is not cold boot )

I switched to my spare Ballistix and it is fine. If I use ANY of the firesitx (at default 1.8v it is PC5300), it will not boot. I am pretty sure the firestix's are burned Either due to poor cooling at 2.2v or motherboard itself, I don't know exactly.

 

[pilipnoi]

Well it looks like I had the same problem as kknd1967...got my new G.SKILL sticks today, put one stick in, finally POSTed! Put the other stick in and it still POSTs. Now the computer if finally up and running again. Looks like I'll be staying away from Crucial for awhile.

 

[mikeny1]

I am having a similar problem with my ip35-e. I still can't get my !@$#@&*!$ piece of @$(^*! computer working, it did not work with the 1.8 volt g.skill RAM I ordered but Newegg agreed to take the RAM back without a restocking fee. I reseated the CPU, tried using the motherboard outside the case, NOTHING. Tried a different power supply, different video card, 2 sets of OCZ RAM (gold and platinum) in all slots to no avail. Nothing seems to help. I still get the double boot (this is normal) then the video card fan spinning on the highest speed continuously but nothing on screen - nothing at all. I'm pretty sure the motherboard is dead at this point, but I may try reseating the CPU again just to be absolutely sure depending on how patient I am. The new BFG motherboard is arriving on Thursday so soon everything will be ok... I hope.

Since no one has posted in this thread for 6 months, I am thinking it is ok to link to my thread describing my problem:

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...=2220152&enterthread=y

 

[Heidfirst]

Originally posted by: mikeny1
Since no one has posted in this thread for 6 months, I am thinking it is ok to link to my thread describing my problem:

If I was Moderator here I wouldn't say so.

 

[Gillbot]

Originally posted by: Heidfirst

Originally posted by: mikeny1
Since no one has posted in this thread for 6 months, I am thinking it is ok to link to my thread describing my problem:

If I was Moderator here I wouldn't say so.

I think it's fine

 

[mikeny1]

thanks

most recent posts: (amazing software overclock, stable!)

http://forums.anandtech.com/me...AR_FORUMVIEWTMP=Linear

 

[Saint Michael]

Wow, what a coincidence. I came on to ask a very similar question, and this thread was at the top. Anyway, I have an IP35-E, and it just today stopped POSTing. Like, I turn it on, and it just sits there and doesn't beep, though all the fans turn on, along with the hard drive and the CD-ROM. The CD-ROM sits there making an intermittent chugging sound, but it seems to be working fine seeing as how it opens. Anyway, the computer is maybe a little less than a year old, and has worked fine up until this point. I was just restarting it to remove some spyware (Antivirus 2008, but I doubt it affected my motherboard at all). When it started to boot up again, this happened. No beeps, no nothing, just powered on. I tried removing the battery to clear the CMOS. No go. I've tried removing every piece of hardware one by one, including the CPU, and reseating the CPU, and removing and putting back in all of the power supply cables. Still, in whatever configuration the motherboard starts up, but won't beep. It does do the double-boot thing if I've removed the power for a few seconds, but that makes no difference ultimately because it still doesn't beep. I don't really see how the motherboard could have died in the midst of a simple computer restart, especially with no indication whatsoever that anything had gone wrong.

 

[mikeny1]

That is exactly what happenned with mine - it's dead.
Welcome to the life of IP35-E owners...

RMA it ASAP like I did...

 

[Saint Michael]

Originally posted by: mikeny1
That is exactly what happenned with mine - it's dead.
Welcome to the life of IP35-E owners...

RMA it ASAP like I did...

I'm not about to give up hope immediately. I can't tell from your post how your problem started, but the OP in this thread and a guy in your thread mentioned freezing and a slideshow/crash, but I experienced no such symptoms.

 

[mikeny1]

Understood, good luck but again I had exactly the same problem as you.
No matter what I did the exact same thing kept happenning - nothing on
screen and no beeps.

Finally I tried another motherboard and everything worked perfectly. Lots
of people are experiencing problems with their IP35-E motherboards lately...

Be sure to keep us posted on your progress or whatever you decide to do!

 

[Saint Michael]

I finally tried the last thing possible before giving up: reseating the motherboard. It worked. I guess somehow a bad contact sprung up, although I couldn't identify it. I'm glad.

 

[nerp]

I'm not so sure that "lots" of IP35-E owners are having problems recently. There have been a handful of people posting about it here, but that might not represent too many people since this board was such a big seller for a long period of time.

Myself, for example, hasn't had a single issue. Even cold/boot double boot issues, etc, have never really happened to me.

 

[mikeny1]

Originally posted by: Saint Michael
I finally tried the last thing possible before giving up: reseating the motherboard. It worked. I guess somehow a bad contact sprung up, although I couldn't identify it. I'm glad.

Glad that worked for you... too bad it didn't work for me but I'm just happy
that I got my system up and running again and hopefully Abit will honor
their RMA and send me a working motherboard.

 

[mikeny1]

Originally posted by: nerp
I'm not so sure that "lots" of IP35-E owners are having problems recently. There have been a handful of people posting about it here, but that might not represent too many people since this board was such a big seller for a long period of time.

Myself, for example, hasn't had a single issue. Even cold/boot double boot issues, etc, have never really happened to me.

Maybe "lots" was the wrong word, but I do seem to be hearing about it more and more
lately. It's great that Saint Michael got his motherboard working though...

Nerp, I hope you never have a problem with it!
How long have you had the motherboard?

Also, what are you doing with all of those computers anyway?
I noticed 4 of them in your sig...