Abbas in Paris as France mulls recognising Palestine

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JEDIYoda

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So Abbas is in France...........
to further his own agenda and appear to be in solidarity with France against such terrorism that has no basis in religion....hmmmmm

http://www.albawaba.com/news/abbas-participate-anti-terrorism-rally-france-642906

Abbas' participation comes a day after he called French President Francois Hollande to express his outrage and condemnation of the attacks, which left 16 civilians dead.

Abbas told Hollande Saturday that the Palestinian people and leadership would remain supportive of France against "this terrorism which has no religion," official Palestinian news agency Wafa reported.

Abbas expressed his condemnation and strong opposition to any "terror attack" that hurts innocent citizens, regardless of whether the victims are Christians, Jews, Muslims, or followers of any other religion or creed.

"Human life is sacred and God has created us all," he reportedly said.



http://www.albawaba.com/news/abbas-participate-anti-terrorism-rally-france-642906


President Nicolas Sarkozy hosted Palestinian leader Mahmud Abbas in Paris on Thursday as France told the United Nations that Europe was considering giving formal recognition to a Palestinian state.

"Recognition of the state of Palestine is one of the options which France is considering, with its European partners, with a view to creating a political horizon for relaunching the peace process," French ambassador Gerard Araud told a UN Security Council debate on the Middle East.

His statement came as Abbas was in the French capital to seek Sarkozy's "advice", in his own words, on the Palestinian Authority's bid to convince the world to accept its statehood even ahead of an ever elusive peace deal.

Any move to welcome a Palestinian state into the community of nations would be seen as an attempt to give a jolt to peace talks with Israel that stalled last September after Israel refused to extend a moratorium on settlements.

Abbas told the French daily le Figaro that US President Barack Obama "should" propose a peace plan ahead of a September deadline previously set for an accord to create a Palestinian state.

"The United States, as the big power, has the duty to make proposals. It is they who can convince Israel," he said in an interview to be published on Friday.

European ambassadors at the UN Security Council, meanwhile, called for "bold" US leadership to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict as Britain also indicated that state recognition could be considered.

"Nothing is off the table with regard to recognition in September," said a British spokesman.

Pressure has mounted on Obama and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu amid heightened Palestinian-Israeli hostilities and a US block on European attempts to break the deadlock.

Abbas told France 24 television that, while he hoped to return to talks with Israel, he thought most European governments were ready to recognise a Palestinian state come what may.

"All the signs from these organisations and states show that they're waiting for the right moment to recognise us," he said, while admitting there have been no outright promises to do so.

Sarkozy has not recently taken a position on the issue, having distanced himself in January last year from his then foreign minister Bernard Kouchner's suggestion that France might unilaterally recognise Palestine.

But Abbas' visit comes at a time when France, which holds the G8 and G20 presidencies, is adopting a more muscular foreign policy designed to revive its global role, in particular its position in the Arab world.

France led international calls for action against Moamer Kadhafi's Libyan regime, spearheading coalition air strikes and becoming the first power to adopt ties with the rebel shadow government in Benghazi.

Paris backs the goal of statehood by the time of the UN General Assembly in September.

But, as ever, profound differences remain between Israeli and Palestinian camps that could yet delay a vote.

Ongoing Jewish settlement construction in the occupied West Bank claimed by Palestinians has sharpened divisions, but the wider international community is also divided on how best to push the talks forward.

The Middle East Quartet -- a diplomatic body overseeing the peace "roadmap" made up of Russia, the European Union, the United Nations and the United States -- postponed a meeting that had been scheduled for April 15.

Europe hoped to announce the "parameters" of an imagined final agreement, but its partners in the process were not ready.

Last week, the Palestinian Authority urged Washington to clearly support the idea of a Palestinian State based on its 1967 borders -- those used before the Six Day War with Israel -- with East Jerusalem as its capital.
 

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So Abbas is in France....

Abbas expressed his condemnation and strong opposition to any "terror attack"....

Recognition of the state of Palestine is one of the options which France is considering, with its European partners......
Last week, the Palestinian Authority urged Washington to clearly support the idea of a Palestinian State based on its 1967 borders -- those used before the Six Day War with Israel -- with East Jerusalem as its capital.

Do you have a problem with any of that?
Abbas was indeed in the front rank of the 'Heads of State' procession last weekend. So was your leader Mr. Netanyahu.
Interesting that few people wanted to walk arm in arm with Nety. Now why do think that was?
You must be aware that Obama and Sarkosy cannot abide Bibi. Sarko called him a liar, Obama is plagued by endless calls from him.
In Europe and America your boss is about as popular as the guy who farts in a lift.
We have great sympathy for the relatives of the Jewish dead (and all victims of the Paris Islamist attack, Muslim, secular and Jewish heros alike).

But why shouldn't Palestine be a state? Why does Israel fire white phosphorus shells on Palestinian kids in Gaza? (just google the phrase for photos).
Wouldn't your natural base be in eastern Europe, somewhere like Lvov, say?
Where was your great grandfather born? Hebron? I doubt it.
Israelis are not the 'locals' they are the settlers who pushed the 'first nations' into stinking open-air 'reservations'.
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"We stole it" (Palestine)
David Ben Gurion.
(First Israeli Prime Minister)
 

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Do you have a problem with any of that?
Abbas was indeed in the front rank of the 'Heads of State' procession last weekend. So was your leader Mr. Netanyahu.
Interesting that few people wanted to walk arm in arm with Nety. Now why do think that was?
You must be aware that Obama and Sarkosy cannot abide Bibi. Sarko called him a liar, Obama is plagued by endless calls from him.
In Europe and America your boss is about as popular as the guy who farts in a lift.
We have great sympathy for the relatives of the Jewish dead (and all victims of the Paris Islamist attack, Muslim, secular and Jewish heros alike).

But why shouldn't Palestine be a state? Why does Israel fire white phosphorus shells on Palestinian kids in Gaza? (just google the phrase for photos).
Wouldn't your natural base be in eastern Europe, somewhere like Lvov, say?
Where was your great grandfather born? Hebron? I doubt it.
Israelis are not the 'locals' they are the settlers who pushed the 'first nations' into stinking open-air 'reservations'.


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"We stole it" (Palestine)
David Ben Gurion.
(First Israeli Prime Minister)

ORLY?

http://www.science.co.il/Israel-history.php

That's been their place since about the dawn of written history.
 

Caravaggio

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That's been their place since about the dawn of written history.
(Schmuckley)

Sorry, I don't think you make sense.

Are you saying we should all go back to somewhere where someone with tiny fragments of our family tree lived 3,500 years ago?
It would cause chaos. But then the "First Nations" tribes would thrilled to get rid of we European 'huddled masses' that made their lives a misery. Expelling them like Palestinians.....

Come to think of it, Jewish religious myth history says that Jews were in Egypt 4,000 years back. Can they claim that too?

What of the Ukraine and Kiev, Jews were there for sure, in far greater numbers, far more recently. Is the Ukraine, Poland and Latvia all part of Israel as well?

Jeez, the whole world's Jewish Land! New Jersey, certainly.
 
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