Aargh, don't stories like this upset you?

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AZGamer

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No, the family made the situation difficult, so they should be sued by Days Inn for causing a disturbance if there is any litigation on the matter.

Unforntuantely the Liberal/Israeli controlled media will make the family look like victims, which is sickening.
 

Chaotic42

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
No, the family made the situation difficult, so they should be sued by Days Inn for causing a disturbance if there is any litigation on the matter.

Unforntuantely the Liberal/Israeli controlled media will make the family look like victims, which is sickening.

Edit: You know what, I've decided that AZGamer has to just be looking for a rise out of people, so nevermind :)
 

Freejack2

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It's the Catskills, unless you are white and a christian or catholic you want to avoid the area like the plague. It wouldn't suprise me if they still have KKK meetings in some basement there.
Going to the Catskills is like going to the deep south. :(

Edit: As for the family's complaints I suspect it was 2 sided, the hotel was probably staffed by people who weren't very racially tolerant and the family was probably very good at complaining. The staff probably could tolerate things as long as they weren't pushed. Once they were rudely pushed their racial intolerances began to shine.
 

PlatinumGold

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I thing some people are missing the point.

there are 2 parts to this story.

the first part: Jewish family was kicked out of their hotel room for complaining. This could very easily be considered to be the acts of racist. None of us knows exactly what happened, but in general hotel staff are not allowed to kick families out of their room just for complaining.

the 2nd part: the Jewish family because of their religious believes suffered. actually this would be a matter of perception. if it were me and i held those beliefs it would be a matter of pride to demonstrate that i can stand by those beliefs even tho it is difficult to do so.

almost everyone here seems to be focusing on the religious beliefs part, even passner, but really that part is Irrelevant to the situation. the only relevant part to this situation is WERE the actions of the hotel staff when ejecting this family from the Hotel room Racially motivated. It would seem to me that the burden of proof here is the Hotel Staff, NOT THE JEWISH FAMILY. The undisputed fact that the jewish family was ejected is ENOUGH to say that there could have been racially motivated actions here. The Burden of proof is on the Hotel.

to further elaborate, How many people have spent time in hotel / motels?? how many have complained. How many have complained to the point of obnoxiousness? finally how many people have been ejected from their hotel / motel room for COMPLAINING.

This is why i say the burden of proof lies w/ the hotel. they have to prove that the jewish family was SOOOO OBNOXIOUS, SOOO beyond the rules of propriety as to deserve being ejected from their rooms. I doubt that they will be able to do so.

Bottom line, This was a racist act.

 

Valinos

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I do not believe there is any conspircy against Jews. What I do believe is that racism should be stamped out, and as a Jew I am obviously going to fight the hardest to stamp out anti-semetism, and this is a prime case. I want to bring this up so that people know. Maybe they will decide to make a call, or maybe they will decide not to go to this hotel, or not to visit Days Inn all together until this Hotel is under new ownership. And there is just one side to this story. A hotel doesn't get a zero star rating for no reason, especially when said rating was relative to other Days Inn's. Also, according to former employees of this hotel, Jews and blacks were commonly descriminted against, these people were just the first brave enough to make it a real issue.


Aah, there's the problem. Sensitive aren't we? Get over it, I'm half Iranian and I don't whine and cry my "people" are being opressed by the U.S. government. Can I give you a cork for that whine?

 

aphex

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
No, the family made the situation difficult, so they should be sued by Days Inn for causing a disturbance if there is any litigation on the matter.

Unforntuantely the Liberal/Israeli controlled media will make the family look like victims, which is sickening.

You sir are a complete idiot.
 

NogginBoink

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Originally posted by: PlatinumGold
I thing some people are missing the point.

almost everyone here seems to be focusing on the religious beliefs part, even passner, but really that part is Irrelevant to the situation. the only relevant part to this situation is WERE the actions of the hotel staff when ejecting this family from the Hotel room Racially motivated. It would seem to me that the burden of proof here is the Hotel Staff, NOT THE JEWISH FAMILY. The undisputed fact that the jewish family was ejected is ENOUGH to say that there could have been racially motivated actions here. The Burden of proof is on the Hotel.

Bottom line, This was a racist act.

Right. That whole guilty until proven innocent thing.

There's no doubt in my mind that this a racially motivated incident, but it's up to the procescution to prove the defendant's guilt in our legal system.

Sheesh.

 

PlatinumGold

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What i love about this thread are all the Ignorant posters talking about we haven't heard BOTH SIDES OF THE STORY.


THEY KICKED OUT PATRONS, what more do you need?? If i'm to reject a client, I have to have PRETTY GOOD REASONS, beyond just Oh, i don't like the way that they smell or look or whatever. I'm in business to make money, so any time I REJECT money, I have to demonstrate good reason for having done so. ANY TIME I reject a Patron / Client that will be giving me money, I have to demonstrate that they are Cheating me, or something to that effect. You can't just reject a client that you are / or can profit from without showing good reason. "they complain too much" is NEVER a good reason.
 

Kipper

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In all good fun, I'm gonna see what kind of arguments I can start by writing:

"If organized religion didn't exist, this situation wouldn't have happened in the first place." ;)

But seriously, folks...you choose the religion, you accept the strings which come attached with it. That's my outlook on the matter. Racial incident or not (and Judaism is arguably an ethnicity)...it's a DAYS INN in upstate NY, people!

With Pennsylvania having the largest number of KKK members per-capita, it's no surprise this kind of stuff happens this far up in the northeast.

Edit: 1001th Post!!!
 

Yo Ma Ma

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One of the more upsetting things about that story is that it doesn't seem to be "all there"... just a little one-sided and/or light on detail.
 

Spac3d

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This doesn't bother me at all. You pay for what you get; you pay for Days Inn Motel, you are going to get Days Inn Motel service.

Deal with it.

Spac3d
 

AZGamer

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"to further elaborate, How many people have spent time in hotel / motels?? how many have complained. How many have complained to the point of obnoxiousness? finally how many people have been ejected from their hotel / motel room for COMPLAINING. "

I've been kicked out of a hotel room before. OMG OMG it must be because they hate Catholics! I'm sure if I bribed former disgruntled employees with promises of part of the settlement, they'll testify that the hotel is run by a bunch of satan worshippers who hated whites and catholics.

It's the hotel's business to do what they want with their property. That's why they have a sign saying they can refuse service to anyone.
 

ThePresence

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
"to further elaborate, How many people have spent time in hotel / motels?? how many have complained. How many have complained to the point of obnoxiousness? finally how many people have been ejected from their hotel / motel room for COMPLAINING. "

I've been kicked out of a hotel room before. OMG OMG it must be because they hate Catholics!
I can think of a few other reasons why you might've been thrown out.

 

SnapIT

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If that was an arab family, passner & co would be jumping up and down screaming: THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED...

If that was a black family, people here would think it was racial...

If that was a white christian family, no one would even notice... the article wouldn't even exist...
 

mrCide

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It appeared there was some racism/whatever involved, however. I read this as..

family wasn't charged properly, refused to pay. hotel called police, police made them goto a different hotel (whatever), they refused to drive.

this is blown way out of proportion
 

Valinos

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
If that was an arab family, passner & co would be jumping up and down screaming: THEY GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED...

If that was a black family, people here would think it was racial...

If that was a white christian family, no one would even notice... the article wouldn't even exist...

Exactly. I'm so sick of whiney minorities. Get over the racist/prejudice complex people. Buncha whiners.

 

Mill

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Originally posted by: AZGamer
"to further elaborate, How many people have spent time in hotel / motels?? how many have complained. How many have complained to the point of obnoxiousness? finally how many people have been ejected from their hotel / motel room for COMPLAINING. "

I've been kicked out of a hotel room before. OMG OMG it must be because they hate Catholics! I'm sure if I bribed former disgruntled employees with promises of part of the settlement, they'll testify that the hotel is run by a bunch of satan worshippers who hated whites and catholics.

It's the hotel's business to do what they want with their property. That's why they have a sign saying they can refuse service to anyone.

If you got kicked out I am pretty sure it was for being a tool.
 

Passner

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Originally posted by: mrCide
It appeared there was some racism/whatever involved, however. I read this as..

family wasn't charged properly, refused to pay. hotel called police, police made them goto a different hotel (whatever), they refused to drive.

this is blown way out of proportion

That is where you are wrong. They were charged properly. They payed $150 a night on their credit card for two nights. That charge is a binding contract, especially when you consider that the person offering that room knew exactly who would be in it and exactly how much it was worth to stay in there. The ppl in the Days in tried to kick out the Jews by saying it was a $249 a night room, when NO ROOM IN ANY DAYS INN in all of the U.S. costs more than $189 a night. This was a crime, pure and simple, made worse by the racism and bigotry that motivated it and the embarassment that ensued to those who were victimized.