A64 PR Rating - 90mm vs 130mm - Ultimate confusion

[LouPoir]

With the new 90mm processors vs the 130mm, the A64 3200+ 512K runs at 2.0 on the 90mm and 2.2 with the 130mm.

Wow - that's confusing. I was thinking of jumping back in on the A64 bandwagon with a S939 90mm. But now I'm so confused, I think I will just sit back for awhile and let the dust settle.

What do you think??

I think one of my problems is I just don't drink enough - LOL

Lou

 

[Murst]

Its not the die size... its the dual channel controller. And yes, it does not make sense.

 

[Concillian]

Yes, it's very confusing.

200 MHz = 200 "plus points" (as in newcastle @ 1.8 GHz = 2800+ and @ 2.0 GHz = 3000+)
double cache = 200 "plus points" (as in newcastle @ 2.0 GHz = 3000+ and clawhammer at 2.0 GHz = 3200+)
Dual channel = 200, sometimes 300 "plus points" (2.0 GHz S754 = 3000+ and 2.0 GHz S939 = 3200+, and at 2.2 you have the 3200+ S754 and the 3500+ S939)

To further compound things cache, dual channel and MHz do not equal the same gain in all testing. In most testing MHz is the most important factor.

Seeing as how AMD has consistently made the numbering scheme MORE confusing, I don't know what good sitting on the sidelines for a while will do.

 

[FelixDeCat]

The PR rating system was nothing but PR for AMD to begin with. Unfortunately we now have to deal with the same crap on Intel side now too.

 

[Bateluer]

The PR system started good, but started getting funky as time went on.

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

The other problem people need to remember is that AMD processors scale so well that AMD outsmarted themselves and now have processor ranking all over the place. Single channel and dual channel and L2 cache oh my

 

[Pythias]

I really REALLY wish amd would pick a friggin socket and stick to it

 

[imported_michaelpatrick33]

Originally posted by: Pythias
I really REALLY wish amd would pick a friggin socket and stick to it

Capitalism is about choices my friend wait until DDR 2 on die controller processors come out late next year and yet another socket springs up. MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

I am being sarcastic and agreeing with you but I think 939 is going to be it for a least a year and will have PCI-ex here within the next month to six weeks on into late next year or early 2006 until DDR2 and the K10 dual cores come floating out

 

[Concillian]

Originally posted by: Pythias
I really REALLY wish amd would pick a friggin socket and stick to it

You mean like intel with the PPGA, PPGA2, S423, S473, S775?

It doesn't really matter, does it? I mean Socket A lasted forever, but I still needed to buy three different motherboards because technology changes. 1st had SDRAM, 2nd had DDR RAM but was limited to 133MHz FSB, and the last one was capable ot 200 MHz RAM/FSB.

I don't really see the multiple socket thing as bad. I RARELY buy a new CPU for an existing motherboard. There's always a compelling reason to get a new motherboard at the same time.

 

[Pythias]

Originally posted by: Concillian

Originally posted by: Pythias
I really REALLY wish amd would pick a friggin socket and stick to it

You mean like intel with the PPGA, PPGA2, S423, S473, S775?

It doesn't really matter, does it? I mean Socket A lasted forever, but I still needed to buy three different motherboards because technology changes. 1st had SDRAM, 2nd had DDR RAM but was limited to 133MHz FSB, and the last one was capable ot 200 MHz RAM/FSB.

I don't really see the multiple socket thing as bad. I RARELY buy a new CPU for an existing motherboard. There's always a compelling reason to get a new motherboard at the same time.

You make an excellent point. It just gets a little frustrating. My pea-sized brain
just cant handle the marketing blitz. Every time I get ready to upgrade, I agonize
over how long the latest "cant live without" technology is gonna last me.

I'm a tightwad