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A64 3400+ and 6800GT = Gaming Bliss

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jim1976

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I tried to avoid the sweet sound of the sirens callin me but it was meaningless. I couldn't resist anymore. 🙂
I upgraded from a P4 2.8c to an A64 3400+(K8N PL) and OMG!! It was like my GT started to breathe normally and spread her wings...
I had my 2.8@3.2 and I was debating with myself whether I should proceed with such a purchase. And what I have to say is that it worthed every single penny I spent on it.
All those things I've heard about A64 were true and my little doubts that were holding me back(rendering,multitasking) didn't have any meaningful basis.


Just a need to share my feelings with you guys.. Cheers to everyone :beer:
 
You guys are telling me! This 6800GT is awesome.

I havn't upgraded my CPU in a while (I've had this 2500+ @ 3200+ for about a year now), I just recently moved from a GF3 Ti200 to a 6800GT.

The difference was amazing.
 
I'm hoping to have my 6800GT (with FarCry!) Friday go with an Athlon XP 2600+ Barton and 1GB PC2700 RAM. It'll definately be pure gaming goodness, though my 9600Pro has done well.
 
Originally posted by: sparkyclarky
Running a Barton 2500+ @ 2.3 with my Gainward 6800GT (just installed today).... Man does D3 look smooth.
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I'm considering to upgrade my vid card .... but still debating if I will see major performence increase over 9700 pro that I have .... I still think the the Barton 2500 I have will be a bottle neck

edit ... sorry if I'm hijacking this thread
 
My upgrade was sweet too. AXP @ 2.4GHz + Radeon 9500 Pro to A64 @ 2450 + GT clocked @ Ultra... soooo sweet.
 
I "upgraded" from a 3.0c@4gig, to a 3400+@2.6gig. From a 9800XT, to a X800 Pro, to a 6800 GT. I have to say Im pretty impressed with the GT, and the 3400+. But to be honest, I didnt notice any difference when playing the games I do, going from a Pro to a GT. At the time, it was mostly Farcry, BF:V, Tribes. With a few various demos mixed in there.
 
My older system was a Athlon XP Barton 2500+ with a 9800 Pro.
I put together a new system, an A64, & threw the 9800 Pro in there.
I tried to resist buying a 6800GT....but i finally gave in, & i have one on the way 😀

Should be sweet!
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
I "upgraded" from a 3.0c@4gig, to a 3400+@2.6gig. From a 9800XT, to a X800 Pro, to a 6800 GT. I have to say Im pretty impressed with the GT, and the 3400+. But to be honest, I didnt notice any difference when playing the games I do, going from a Pro to a GT. At the time, it was mostly Farcry, BF:V, Tribes. With a few various demos mixed in there.
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My intention was to show the great potential of A64 in gaming compared to P4, and not to underestimate the 420 generation. I wouldn't believe either that if in the place of my GT was a PRO that I would have mentioned many differences.I know what ATI is capable of 😉


Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
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No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
 
just outta curiousity : what games do you guys play? doom3? 🙂 my 8500 / mobile barton @2.1 runs UT2004 and CS fine... those are like the only 3d game i play now, dont have enough time to play games anyway 🙁
 
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
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No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
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Yeah, I know the Athlon 64s are faster for gaming, but I got a deal on the CPU and a motherboard that I couldn't pass up. My XP 2500+ @ 3200+ and 5900XT can also handle everything I throw at them, so it's kinda dumb for all of us to say that our near top of the line systems can handle every game out there without a problem.
 
I upgraded my 486DX to a P3.0GHZ the difference was amazing.

😛


J/K

I love my 6800 U, the best money ever spent, in my opinion.
 
Originally posted by: Ackmed
I "upgraded" from a 3.0c@4gig, to a 3400+@2.6gig. From a 9800XT, to a X800 Pro, to a 6800 GT. I have to say Im pretty impressed with the GT, and the 3400+. But to be honest, I didnt notice any difference when playing the games I do, going from a Pro to a GT. At the time, it was mostly Farcry, BF:V, Tribes. With a few various demos mixed in there.
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Same here. My 4200 and 9800Pro seemed to be just as good, although now I have all the eyecandy turned on. If I didnt have Doom and Farcry, I don't think I could tell the difference. My broadband speed is more important! 😛 The rest of the system is A64 3200+ and 1GB PC3500 RAM. Anyways, its probably the last time I splurge on the latest and greatest video card. *fingers crossed*
 
Originally posted by: jim1976
I tried to avoid the sweet sound of the sirens callin me but it was meaningless. I couldn't resist anymore. 🙂
I upgraded from a P4 2.8c to an A64 3400+(K8N PL) and OMG!! It was like my GT started to breathe normally and spread her wings...
I had my 2.8@3.2 and I was debating with myself whether I should proceed with such a purchase. And what I have to say is that it worthed every single penny I spent on it.
All those things I've heard about A64 were true and my little doubts that were holding me back(rendering,multitasking) didn't have any meaningful basis.


Just a need to share my feelings with you guys.. Cheers to everyone :beer:
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i'm thinking of going back to the p4 (3.2c) as my main rig.

i've mentioned before i play some daoc, and one of the things that's convenient is to run 2 client applications (2 games at the same time so you can play 2 chars).

while i had no issues with the p4, my a64 (2.4ghz) can't handle it. which ever client is in the background quits working, and the foreground client is choppy and response is poor. haven't noticed any other issues; running a single client works fine. not sure if it's an issue with cpu, or perhaps mainboard (nf3-250). hopefully it's something i can figure out, but in the meantime this issue causes me to be less than enthusiastic......
 
i just built a 3400+ and a 6800GT system and it IS GREAT!

Theres a bit of studdering in FFXI when I play games, but I think i might have worked that out. Some other people reported that they noticed the same type of stuttering when they played farcry... gotta try that out for myself.
 
Night and day!?!? no no no. Try 1600+ + GF3 ti200 --> 3300+ (oced of course) + 9800p @ xt speeds. Now that is night and day 😛
 
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
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No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
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i certainly don't see that. ignoring the "dual app" issue i'm seeing, the a64 is not noticeably faster than a my similarly rated intel. benches may certainly show it, but it's kind of like the nv40 vs r420 debate - noticeable performance differences are absent (with the exception of d3) unless benchmarks are used. and of course, if you're into media encoding, while intel excels there, but the a64 is still more than capable.

while this certianly isn't end all/be all measuring stick:

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2200 MHz (basically a 3200+ w/ a bit faster fsb)
FSB 221 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 854 CPUMarks

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3192 MHz
FSB 200 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 851 CPUMarks

hardly a glaring difference...

at 3400+ speeds (again, a little higher fsb than a std 3400+):

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2400 MHz
FSB 241 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 927 CPUMarks

almost 10% faster than the p4c @3.2, but that's to be expected when scaling clock speeds. perhaps the a64 architecture is a bit faster using current 32bit apps, and i'm sure we can really get into a debate when talking overclocking potential, cost, and value as an end result, but frankly, as far as performance any glaring differences seem to be more in people's head.

 
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
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No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
Click to expand...

i certainly don't see that. ignoring the "dual app" issue i'm seeing, the a64 is not noticeably faster than a my similarly rated intel. benches may certainly show it, but it's kind of like the nv40 vs r420 debate - noticeable performance differences are absent (with the exception of d3) unless benchmarks are used. and of course, if you're into media encoding, while intel excels there, but the a64 is still more than capable.

while this certianly isn't end all/be all measuring stick:

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2200 MHz (basically a 3200+ w/ a bit faster fsb)
FSB 221 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 854 CPUMarks

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3192 MHz
FSB 200 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 851 CPUMarks

hardly a glaring difference...

at 3400+ speeds (again, a little higher fsb than a std 3400+):

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2400 MHz
FSB 241 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 927 CPUMarks

almost 10% faster than the p4c @3.2, but that's to be expected when scaling clock speeds. perhaps the a64 architecture is a bit faster using current 32bit apps, and i'm sure we can really get into a debate when talking overclocking potential, cost, and value as an end result, but frankly, as far as performance any glaring differences seem to be more in people's head.
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I had a P4 2.8Ghz in my PVR box, and it couldn't record two things and playback at the same time. heck, my PVR 250s will doing all the work, but playback was stuttering. The XP 2500 that I used as a PVR system before had no such issues, but I had already sold it. Anyways, put in a A64 2800+ and everything is smooth as butter again. Try benchmarking D3 or FarCry at low resolutions and see if theres a difference.
 
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
Click to expand...

No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
Click to expand...

i certainly don't see that. ignoring the "dual app" issue i'm seeing, the a64 is not noticeably faster than a my similarly rated intel. benches may certainly show it, but it's kind of like the nv40 vs r420 debate - noticeable performance differences are absent (with the exception of d3) unless benchmarks are used. and of course, if you're into media encoding, while intel excels there, but the a64 is still more than capable.

while this certianly isn't end all/be all measuring stick:

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2200 MHz (basically a 3200+ w/ a bit faster fsb)
FSB 221 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 854 CPUMarks

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3192 MHz
FSB 200 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 851 CPUMarks

hardly a glaring difference...

at 3400+ speeds (again, a little higher fsb than a std 3400+):

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2400 MHz
FSB 241 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 927 CPUMarks

almost 10% faster than the p4c @3.2, but that's to be expected when scaling clock speeds. perhaps the a64 architecture is a bit faster using current 32bit apps, and i'm sure we can really get into a debate when talking overclocking potential, cost, and value as an end result, but frankly, as far as performance any glaring differences seem to be more in people's head.
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the glaring difference is that it took 1000mhz more to get within 3 points of the A64.

Imagine if the A64 ran at 3.2gig, easy 1300cpu marks.
 
Originally posted by: Rage187
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: MDE
Running strong with my GT at Ultra speeds and a 3.2C @ 3.6.
Click to expand...

No offence mate you have a great processor at blazing speeds but A64 as far as I have seen so far is much better especially at gaming.
Click to expand...

i certainly don't see that. ignoring the "dual app" issue i'm seeing, the a64 is not noticeably faster than a my similarly rated intel. benches may certainly show it, but it's kind of like the nv40 vs r420 debate - noticeable performance differences are absent (with the exception of d3) unless benchmarks are used. and of course, if you're into media encoding, while intel excels there, but the a64 is still more than capable.

while this certianly isn't end all/be all measuring stick:

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2200 MHz (basically a 3200+ w/ a bit faster fsb)
FSB 221 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 854 CPUMarks

CPU Intel Pentium 4 3192 MHz
FSB 200 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 851 CPUMarks

hardly a glaring difference...

at 3400+ speeds (again, a little higher fsb than a std 3400+):

CPU AMD Athlon(tm) 64 2400 MHz
FSB 241 MHz
Memory 1024 MB
CPU Score 927 CPUMarks

almost 10% faster than the p4c @3.2, but that's to be expected when scaling clock speeds. perhaps the a64 architecture is a bit faster using current 32bit apps, and i'm sure we can really get into a debate when talking overclocking potential, cost, and value as an end result, but frankly, as far as performance any glaring differences seem to be more in people's head.
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the glaring difference is that it took 1000mhz more to get within 3 points of the A64.

Imagine if the A64 ran at 3.2gig, easy 1300cpu marks.
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You can't compare megahertz to megahertz, they're two completely different architectures.
 
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