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A Well Done Athlon XP 1800 Review Here

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AGodspeed

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Go here. It uses the AMD 760 chipset, so the benches are somewhat worse compared to what you can get from the K7S5A. Still, it's just about what you'd expect from a 1.53GHz Palomino. Quote:

AMD has delivered a real winner in the ongoing performance sweepstakes with the Athlon XP. Our testing saw the Palomino galloping ahead of the competition in the vast majority of the application benchmarks while giving up a 470 MHz clock rate disparity. A system built around the 1.53GHz Athlon XP would make a great gamer's system, and a terrific workhorse system in content creation environments. Another PR Rating?

Thanks to LongTimePCUser for the link. 🙂
 
Good find, but I don't have much faith in that sites testing abilities.... 1.53Ghz XP, with Amd 760, only getting 161.3 FPS in "fastest" mode... I get that with my crappo 1.1Ghz + KT7A-Raid...


Anyways... I will wait for a real review to be done like Anand does...


Good find bro. It does have some great tests...
 
Overall, the XP put up some very nice numbers. I wish they could've used an nForce or a KT266A to really see what kind of performance that beast is capable of. Pretty good article though.
 
Yeah, those numbers are borked. There should be no reason in hell for a 1.4GHz Athlon to beat a 1.53GHz Athlon XP in ANY Quake III tests.
 
<<< Yeah, those numbers are borked. There should be no reason in hell for a 1.4GHz Athlon to beat a 1.53GHz Athlon XP in ANY Quake III tests. >>>

My thoughts exactily, but thats Win2K, and I am not a partaker in that OS, not until SP5 or something... HEHEHEHE. Still there is no way Win2K should cause a Tbird to outperform a XP... It's just not posseble...

Oh well, like I said... AT needs to review these... But it seems he has been slow doing reviews for some products... I remember the Anand that had EVERY review FIRST... Oh well. I can't get down on the man too much, he gave us the KT266A, and the nForce review... He is such a good reviewer though it's a shame he can't pump out more... But he does have college and a life... DAMN!

 


<< <<< Yeah, those numbers are borked. There should be no reason in hell for a 1.4GHz Athlon to beat a 1.53GHz Athlon XP in ANY Quake III tests. >>>

My thoughts exactily, but thats Win2K, and I am not a partaker in that OS, not until SP5 or something... HEHEHEHE. Still there is no way Win2K should cause a Tbird to outperform a XP... It's just not posseble...

Oh well, like I said... AT needs to review these... But it seems he has been slow doing reviews for some products... I remember the Anand that had EVERY review FIRST... Oh well. I can't get down on the man too much, he gave us the KT266A, and the nForce review... He is such a good reviewer though it's a shame he can't pump out more... But he does have college and a life... DAMN! >>


NDA is not even up on these yet. ExtremeTech has jumped the gun.
 
<<< NDA is not even up on these yet. ExtremeTech has jumped the gun. >>>

Ahhh.... I had no Idea.... But you can actually buy the XP's with the right connections... or so ive heard...

How do you know there is an NDA on it? I'm just curious to how people know when a NDA is up or going on, or even exists....

Thanks...


 


<< NFS4 works for AnandTech, ArchAngel777. >>


Even so, it's not to hard to see that NDA isn't up on the chips yet. CNET hasn't announced anything, ZDNET hasn't, Tom doesn't have a review, nothing from Ace's Hardware, not even anything from Athlonmb or AMD Zone. That should tell you that it is not released yet.

Just put 2 and 2 together 😀
 
too bad they didn't test it on a kt266a...

would've liked to have seen it tested on its fastest platform, since the p4 was....
 
Is the NDA over tomorrow? The 9th or October? That's what I've heard, but can anyone verify this?

--Mark
 
Well, AMD has announced a major press conference tomorrow at 10:00 PST to introduce a "new product line". I don't think there are going to be any secrets about the AthlonXP after that.

2+2=4

BTW, anyone notice that the Extreme Tech review is dated 10/9/01? Perhaps a cheap way to cover their butts on the NDA issue? You should tell Anand that, NFS4. Just post his review but date it for tomorrow 😀
 


<< AMD's pricing for Palomino is still competitive with Intel's, but not quite so aggressive. We think this is a good thing--if a company can't generate profits over the long haul, it won't be in business. The Model 1800 (1.53GHz) will be priced at around $250. In today's hotly competitive market that's right in the ballpark with Intel's 1.8GHz Pentium 4. On a price/performance basis, this is a good deal, but users have gotten used to cheap Thunderbirds, so only time will tell. >>



If its not priced at $100 like the 1.4 t-bird is ,then I don't want it plain and simple.
 
Not impressed. The P4 edged out the aXP in quite a few of those benches. And what about stability? i850=no VIA Southbridge=why I want to put Intel into my next system. If only AMD supplied both the North and Southbridges.
 


<< Not impressed. The P4 edged out the aXP in quite a few of those benches. >>


I would hope so, it is twice the price $227* vs $530* *pricewatch



<< And what about stability? i850=no VIA Southbridge=why I want to put Intel into my next system. If only AMD supplied both the North and Southbridges. >>


Why is this such a problem, their are other chipsets available including the SIS 735 which benches a bit better than the 760 anyway, and is cheap. Also, the new nvidia chipset is just around the corner, which offers improvements upon performance even over the 735.
 
If only AMD supplied both the North and Southbridges.

They've been around for a while actually. I believe they're called the AMD 762 North Brigde and 768 South Bridge or something like that. And they're available from one or two of the top tier board makers; MSI, Gigabyte, or ASUS, can't remember which one.

The P4 edged out the aXP in quite a few of those benches.

Well sure, but you should remember that the AMD 760 chipset was used in that review, and the AMD 760 is most certainly not the fastest or cheapest solution that's currently available for the Athlon (i.e. ECS K7S5A currently, KT266A + nForce to come within weeks).

i850=no VIA Southbridge=why I want to put Intel into my next system.

ECS's K7S5A doesn't have a VIA southbridge. And neither does at least one other AMD chipset based board. And, as I'm sure you know, Nvidia is releasing nForce soon, and that uses a non-VIA southbridge so...
 


<< Well sure, but you should remember that the AMD 760 chipset was used in that review, and the AMD 760 is most certainly not the fastest or cheapest solution that's currently available for the Athlon right now (i.e. ECS K7S5A currently, KT266A + nForce to come within weeks). >>

That's something that I don't like about some people (Like ExtremeTech and Dr. Pabst) is that they're still using 760, while 735 is a proven solution and so will KT266A/nforce, why don't they compare P4-Athlon using the fastest chipsets?
 


<<

<< Not impressed. The P4 edged out the aXP in quite a few of those benches. >>


I would hope so, it is twice the price $227* vs $530* *pricewatch >>



Not to mention 2.0Ghz vs. 1.53Ghz
 


<< << Not impressed. The P4 edged out the aXP in quite a few of those benches. >> >>



KT266a will slap P4 silly.
 


<< KT266a will slap P4 silly. >>


I'm sure Anand will use the KT266A to test the Athlon4 against the P4.
 
The Athlon XP will be the king of performance in most benches. P4 still has a 500mhz lead and still doesn't look impressive. (IMO anyways) Will find out hopefully tomorrow when anand does the review.
 


<< If only AMD supplied both the North and Southbridges. >>





<< They've been around for a while actually. I believe they're called the AMD 762 North Brigde and 768 South Bridge or something like that. And they're available from one or two of the top tier board makers; MSI, Gigabyte, or ASUS, can't remember which one. >>



There are no single cpu motherboards that have a 760 mated with a AMD southbrige. The only all AMD socket A boards are the Gigabyte GA-7IXE4 that uses the old 75O chip set and the Tyan Thunder K7 and Tiger MP.
 
I was also looking at the board he used and it was the Gigabyte. That doesn't have full SSE support yet does it?
 
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