A war I'd like to see America fight...

[RightIsWrong]

Can we just stop with the "War on (insert abstract concept here)" crap already?

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: Genx87
Hey a Minneapolis councilman is taking up this crusade by bringing up an ordinance requiring fast food meals have nutritional information for consumers to read.

Reminds me of Dennis Leary in "No cure for cancer" when he talks about the guy from England who wants to make the warning labels on the cigarette packs bigger. His response

"You fucking Dolt"

I would say it's a fucking dolt way of trying to save fucking dolts.

The better solution would be to have the Surgeon General's office print the menu and stipulate the method of preparation. K rations for an overweight nation.

Also if everybody is guaranteed a job or some form of livelihood and a place to live a lot of anxiety eating will disappear.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What ever happened to mandatory P.E. in school and certain levels of fitness a kid must achieve to get a passing grade? I think this is one area where the Liberals with their "have kids feel good about themselves" BS has failed society.

I'm not sure P.E. would be responsible for keeping obesity down. 40 minutes every other day of playing dodgeball? Negligible effect.

That said, I fucking hate those PC parent's groups and school boards that have kids doing stuff like jumping imaginary ropes so no one gets embarrassed by being a bad jump roper. And when they ban dodgeball?! It teaches SO many life lessons 🙂

Sure, the PE teacher can assign teams so the humiliation of being the last person picked can be avoided for the awkward kids, no reason to subject a kid to that week after week, but getting rid of all team based sports to prevent hurt feelings does a disservice to these kids. Learning how to lose is every bit as important as learning how to win, and generally you learn more when you lose.

 

[soccerballtux]

We could start by killing our food pyramid.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Craig234
You voted for Bush (right?) Who are you going to blame?

The looney left who thinks Government should "fix" all problems in society. Let the fat be fat, let the smokers smoke, and stay the hell out of my life. Personal responsibility...

 

[bamacre]

I've always found it rather ironic, and I am going to greatly generalize here, that so many on the right are Christians and love their Creationism and Jesus but also their freedom and free markets and freedom not to help anyone. Then on the Left, you have those gosh darn Darwin lovers who love to try to prevent Darwinism.


😛

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: bamacre
I've always found it rather ironic, and I am going to greatly generalize here, that so many on the right are Christians and love their Creationism and Jesus but also their freedom and free markets and freedom not to help anyone. Then on the Left, you have those gosh darn Darwin lovers who love to try to prevent Darwinism.


😛

I don't find it ironic(the first part). It's giving of your own free will that makes giving - true "giving". "giving" is not "giving" if it's taken by force.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
There is no way to properly make this happen without seriously infringing on America's freedoms on multiple levels beyond the obvious that most probably have not even considered. For example, if we had some sort of "War on Obesity" then part of that war would involve targeting the marketing of products that are generally considered to be unhealthy. Doesn't that go completely against the idea of a free market since it would be the government that would need to regulate that sort of thing? Do we really want the government regulating McDonalds and Ben&Jerrys? How much of your tax dollars are you willing to spend in order to actually make a difference? Will that amount break even or cost more in regards to how the results will effect health care?

It is impossible.

Nope, it's possible by making people pay for their own care. If they had to pay for their own care they'd see how much cheaper a healthy lifestyle is than taking pills and sitting on their ass.
But that won't happen... it would make too much sense.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: bamacre
I've always found it rather ironic, and I am going to greatly generalize here, that so many on the right are Christians and love their Creationism and Jesus but also their freedom and free markets and freedom not to help anyone. Then on the Left, you have those gosh darn Darwin lovers who love to try to prevent Darwinism.


😛

I don't find it ironic(the first part). It's giving of your own free will that makes giving - true "giving". "giving" is not "giving" if it's taken by force.

Oh I agree with you. It was just a joke. 😉

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Xavier434
There is no way to properly make this happen without seriously infringing on America's freedoms on multiple levels beyond the obvious that most probably have not even considered. For example, if we had some sort of "War on Obesity" then part of that war would involve targeting the marketing of products that are generally considered to be unhealthy. Doesn't that go completely against the idea of a free market since it would be the government that would need to regulate that sort of thing? Do we really want the government regulating McDonalds and Ben&Jerrys? How much of your tax dollars are you willing to spend in order to actually make a difference? Will that amount break even or cost more in regards to how the results will effect health care?

It is impossible.

Nope, it's possible by making people pay for their own care. If they had to pay for their own care they'd see how much cheaper a healthy lifestyle is than taking pills and sitting on their ass.
But that won't happen... it would make too much sense.

The only thing that making people pay for their own health care will do is greatly increase the number of people in this country that are without health care. That is not a solution.

 

[alchemize]

That would be sweet. Driving around with big harpoon guns mounted on the hood of your car.

 

[Moonbeam]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: bamacre
I've always found it rather ironic, and I am going to greatly generalize here, that so many on the right are Christians and love their Creationism and Jesus but also their freedom and free markets and freedom not to help anyone. Then on the Left, you have those gosh darn Darwin lovers who love to try to prevent Darwinism.


😛

I don't find it ironic(the first part). It's giving of your own free will that makes giving - true "giving". "giving" is not "giving" if it's taken by force.

Caesar doesn't care if it's not giving. Everybody in the world got richer after Roman roads and aqueducts, etc. Everybody got cheap bread. Forced participation is the price you pay for civilization. Go swing in a tree in the jungle if you want to be free.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Craig234

Originally posted by: deathstorm78
After listening to even radio commericials I find that it's so widely advertised that eating anything anytime is okay.

Taco Bell has an advertising campaign about 'The Fourth Meal' to advertise their late night hours.

That ad campaign made me sick to my stomach, no pun intended. The idea that Americans need another meal is disgusting.

That said, I support Taco Bell doing whatever they can to increase sales. People need to be intelligent enough to ignore advertising.

 

[Budmantom]

I thought we were still fighting the war on poverty, we can't fight two wars at once our troops are stretched a bit thin...

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: bamacre
I've always found it rather ironic, and I am going to greatly generalize here, that so many on the right are Christians and love their Creationism and Jesus but also their freedom and free markets and freedom not to help anyone. Then on the Left, you have those gosh darn Darwin lovers who love to try to prevent Darwinism.


😛

I don't find it ironic(the first part). It's giving of your own free will that makes giving - true "giving". "giving" is not "giving" if it's taken by force.

Caesar doesn't care if it's not giving. Everybody in the world got richer after Roman roads and aqueducts, etc. Everybody got cheap bread. Forced participation is the price you pay for civilization. Go swing in a tree in the jungle if you want to be free.

That's great until you disagree with those defining civilization. I thought we just had this discussion?

You have decided that civilization is about forced participation to save one from ones self. Republicans just want to save gays from themselves, and the majority defines morality so it's absolutely moral to stop homosexuals from marrying. You should just embrace the Republican vision of a world without homosexuals. Go swing in a tree if you want the freedom to be gay.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Go swing in a tree in the jungle if you want to be free.

Wow, moonbeam. Your worst post ever. I gotta give you not one :thumbsdown: , but two :thumbsdown: :thumbsdown: for that load of crap.

 

[alphatarget1]

To all those conservative champions on free will and free market: Someone else's free will to get fat, get heart attacks, get stomach bypass surgery, is ultimately subsidized by those of us who are healthy. I don't think there is anyone who would question the fact that obesity *is* a big problem here. Can we find some common ground to try to make our nation healthier?

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What ever happened to mandatory P.E. in school and certain levels of fitness a kid must achieve to get a passing grade? I think this is one area where the Liberals with their "have kids feel good about themselves" BS has failed society.

Same reason you can no longer play dodge ball or tag at school.




And if anyone really wants to do something, start calling your elected peeps and tell them to drop the sugar tarriffs so we can get that hydrogonated corn syrup crap out of here.

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
What ever happened to mandatory P.E. in school and certain levels of fitness a kid must achieve to get a passing grade? I think this is one area where the Liberals with their "have kids feel good about themselves" BS has failed society.

Same reason you can no longer play dodge ball or tag at school.




And if anyone really wants to do something, start calling your elected peeps and tell them to drop the sugar tarriffs so we can get that hydrogonated corn syrup crap out of here.

Yup!!

http://westtnliving.wordpress....ible-consequences-for/

Government fucks it up, as usual.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: alchemize
That would be sweet. Driving around with big harpoon guns mounted on the hood of your car.

Just make all doors mirrored so fat people can see how ridiculous they look.

 

[Vic]

Obesity is caused by the fear and consumption culture. The fact is that the adrenal response drives consumption, and marketers have been tapping into this for decades. The side effects are that America is fat and stressed-out. Have a Big Mac and a Prozac, and buy a bigger house, you'll feel safer.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: jonks
I'm not sure P.E. would be responsible for keeping obesity down. 40 minutes every other day of playing dodgeball? Negligible effect.

uh, 30 minutes a day 3 times a week is a target for physical activity.

and when i was in elementary school and junior high it was 35-40 minutes a day 5 days a week. and a lot more of that than i liked (back then) was running laps.

do kids even have to run laps anymore?





school lunch can be improved i'm sure. all we ever had was deep fried "steak" fingers with rice, all of it covered in gravy.

 

[QueBert]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
A healthier public should bring health costs down. Has either candidate talked about trying to make health care cheaper for all by encouraging the public to be healthier?

people eating healthy would screw up the economy, think of all the people employed in the fast food industry. If people start to eat less fast food and more salads places like Burger King, McDonalds & Wendy's (to name a few) will be screwed and end up having to fire thousands of people to stay in business. Those people are mostly unskilled workers so they would probably end up on Welfare, which would end up costing more than we spend on Health Care. People being obese helps generate tens of thousands of jobs and stimulates the economy. Now there's no doubt being fat is bad health wise, but if people become healthy I think the jobs lost would outweigh the money spent on health care.

it's a double edge sword.

Now, I'm going to head to Wendy's for lunch so I can help stimulate the economy.

 

[marincounty]

Isn't it ironic that the president who is so healthy and in shape has given us the worst economy in decades?
I'd rather have Americans open up a book and learn something.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: marincounty
Isn't it ironic that the president who is so healthy and in shape has given us the worst economy in decades?
I'd rather have Americans open up a book and learn something.

Learn how to stay healthy by eating right and exercising daily.