A Very Depressing (and frightening) Poll Results

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UltraQuiet

Banned
Sep 22, 2001
5,755
0
0
What is the difference between silencing people who may say something you don't want to hear and attacking a cuontry because you are afraid of what they MIGHT do? What is the difference is searching people on the presumption they might be carrying a bomb without probable cause?

If you really don't know the difference then I have seriously overestimated your intelligence.
 

silverpig

Lifer
Jul 29, 2001
27,703
12
81
I think many people keep in mind the right to free speech that the KKK etc have. In this way, some people may want free speech limited further.
 

tcsenter

Lifer
Sep 7, 2001
18,949
575
126
Do you think the Constitution goes too far in the free speech rights it guarantees?
The problem with polls of excessive unspecificity is that its impossible to interpret what people may have actually had in mind when they answered. Some of these people may have had a particular example in mind, as opposed to a sweeping change in 1st Amendment interpretation, where some 'form' of expression was held to be protected as free speech but many people agree the logic is a real stretch even for the 1st Amendment. The possibilities are endless.

I actually agree that the COURTS go too far in their interpretation and construction, not the constitution. The constitution is nearly perfect, it is people who are heavily flawed (as Lincoln commented similarly on).

At the core of 1st Amendment 'free speech' and 'press' is POLITICAL speech and press. That was the 'speech' and 'press' the framers had directly in mind. All other non-political forms of speech, press, or expression are very much secondary considerations and can be regulated or restricted to varying degrees depending on the state interest.

For example, strip clubs. As fond as I am of beautiful women shaking their assets at me while I wave money at them, to say that exotic dancing cannot be regulated or restricted because it is 1st Amendment expression is a REAL stretch.
 

JellyBaby

Diamond Member
Apr 21, 2000
9,159
1
81
I'm not a fan of polls, especially "quicky" questions like those with only "yes or "no" response options.

What it amazing, though, is the 3% and 5% who are "unsure". Any citizen should easily be able to answer both poll questions. Ignorance is still rampant even after the trillions of dollars thrown at education over the years.
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: silverpig
I think many people keep in mind the right to free speech that the KKK etc have. In this way, some people may want free speech limited further.

So you're going to limit your own right and everyone else's right to free speech just because you won't turn the chanel, turn off the radio, or get up and go elsewhere if you hear propaganda that you don't like!? :disgust: :|

nik
 

NikPreviousAcct

No Lifer
Aug 15, 2000
52,763
1
0
Originally posted by: JellyBaby
I'm not a fan of polls, especially "quicky" questions like those with only "yes or "no" response options. What it amazing, though, is the 3% and 5% who are "unsure". Any citizen should easily be able to answer both poll questions. Ignorance is still rampant even after the trillions of dollars thrown at education over the years.

Just because education may seem to be well funded doesn't mean that the funds are properly disposed of - or that the quality of material being taught is secure, either.

nik