Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Mine is cool with the fact I won't buy them and the fact I don't do v-day.
you better marry that one before she gets away!
you better marry that one before she gets away!
Aharami
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u gotta think at the bigger picture. its not that the Jewellery store are holding out on the diamonds. its the wholesalers like DeBeers. A man doenst walk in to a jewellery store that often. When he does, looking for that special diamond that he took out a $10K loan for at 14% interest, the Jewellery store better have something in stock to lure the guy in. Cuz otherwise the store just lost its ONLY chance to sell that poor chap. Thats why Jewellery stores ALWAYS have diamonds handy. But after they have lured you in with their selection, they open up the book and show you what you could be getting. Guy falls for it hook line and sinker and before you know it, guy has to take out another loan to order a better diamond from the catalog.
Its DeBeers thats holding out, causing a lack of supply to the Jewellery stores. But they hold out JUST enough so that the stores have just enough diamonds to cause a high demand. This in turn makes diamond a "rare item" which keeps the price of the rock high
Sentimental values are always hard to explain. Debeers just happen to be the most commercially successful company at promoting "shiny rocks".
Aharami
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ok a girl's perspective....was talking to my gf over AIM and asked her the following:
me (8:56:26 PM): why do girls want diamonds so bad?
her (8:57:06 PM): engagement ring? or just diamonds
her (8:57:27 PM): hmmm . cause their pretty!
me (8:57:38 PM): esp for eng rings. but in general
her (8:58:59 PM): well...cause i guess ist tradition in a way? diamond engagement ring. its symbol that she can always wear showing off that this is the big rock that my man gave me
her (9:00:07 PM): its shiny and elegant on us. yea ur right their are other pieces of jewelry just as nice. like rubies and opals
me (9:00:39 PM): so girls would rather follow a tradition that costs $8K+ than lets say a nice house?
her (9:01:09 PM): i dont think it costs that much?!
her (9:01:29 PM): maybe 4 or 5K
me (9:01:30 PM): hahahaha
her (9:09:48 PM): well a lot of girls think the bigger the diamond is too..the more the guy loves them
me (9:10:01 PM): hah!
her (9:10:04 PM): like they're worth it kind of thing
me (8:56:26 PM): why do girls want diamonds so bad?
her (8:57:06 PM): engagement ring? or just diamonds
her (8:57:27 PM): hmmm . cause their pretty!
me (8:57:38 PM): esp for eng rings. but in general
her (8:58:59 PM): well...cause i guess ist tradition in a way? diamond engagement ring. its symbol that she can always wear showing off that this is the big rock that my man gave me
her (9:00:07 PM): its shiny and elegant on us. yea ur right their are other pieces of jewelry just as nice. like rubies and opals
me (9:00:39 PM): so girls would rather follow a tradition that costs $8K+ than lets say a nice house?
her (9:01:09 PM): i dont think it costs that much?!
her (9:01:29 PM): maybe 4 or 5K
me (9:01:30 PM): hahahaha
her (9:09:48 PM): well a lot of girls think the bigger the diamond is too..the more the guy loves them
me (9:10:01 PM): hah!
her (9:10:04 PM): like they're worth it kind of thing
JulesMaximus
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Well, even the trickle they supply the stores with is still so much that diamonds aren't really rare at all. We're just told so often that diamonds are rare and valuable that a lot of people end up believing it, even when evidence to the contrary is all around.
If you could suddenly walk through town and pick up fists full of diamonds in the gutters people would be murdering each other in the street over them for quite a while I guess. It's retarded.
JulesMaximus
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Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Mine is cool with the fact I won't buy them and the fact I don't do v-day.
Originally posted by: Aharami
ok a girl's perspective....was talking to my gf over AIM and asked her the following:
me (8:56:26 PM): why do girls want diamonds so bad?
her (8:57:06 PM): engagement ring? or just diamonds
her (8:57:27 PM): hmmm . cause their pretty!
me (8:57:38 PM): esp for eng rings. but in general
her (8:58:59 PM): well...cause i guess ist tradition in a way? diamond engagement ring. its symbol that she can always wear showing off that this is the big rock that my man gave me
her (9:00:07 PM): its shiny and elegant on us. yea ur right their are other pieces of jewelry just as nice. like rubies and opals
me (9:00:39 PM): so girls would rather follow a tradition that costs $8K+ than lets say a nice house?
her (9:01:09 PM): i dont think it costs that much?!
her (9:01:29 PM): maybe 4 or 5K
me (9:01:30 PM): hahahaha
her (9:09:48 PM): well a lot of girls think the bigger the diamond is too..the more the guy loves them
me (9:10:01 PM): hah!
her (9:10:04 PM): like they're worth it kind of thing
Remind her that the diamond engagement ring "tradition" is a 20th century invention.
what acemcmac's gf is going to get
so much as one more fvcking hiccup between now and then though and I'll put it on another girl's finger :|
so much as one more fvcking hiccup between now and then though and I'll put it on another girl's finger :|
Here's the jist on Diamond supply and demand...
Customer: Can you appraise this diamond for me?
Jeweler: Well isn't that a beaut. Lemme see.
...
Jeweler: The appraisal value of the diamond if $4,500. Here's what you want to look for in a diamond. Check clarity,..blah, blah, blah...
Customer: Thanks. So how much will you give me for it?
Jeweler: Oh, for that one... About $120-$140.
Customer: What!@?
Ask any jeweler. Diamonds are extremely plentiful. They just have such a tight lock on them by debeers. That's why I can't wait till Apollo and Gemesis cultured diamonds really hit the mainstream. They are only selling them as jewels to recoup costs until they can sell them for semiconductor applications. Debeer's freaked out when they started showing up at jeweler conventions and built a $250,000 machine that could detect if a diamond is cultured. So I promise you that a jeweler/woman could never tell the difference.
The lattice structure of cultured diamonds, especially Apollo's, is almost perfect. The only thing they are still working on, the last time i checked, was making them clear instead of yellowish colored. But tinted diamonds are normally worth more anyway.
Customer: Can you appraise this diamond for me?
Jeweler: Well isn't that a beaut. Lemme see.
...
Jeweler: The appraisal value of the diamond if $4,500. Here's what you want to look for in a diamond. Check clarity,..blah, blah, blah...
Customer: Thanks. So how much will you give me for it?
Jeweler: Oh, for that one... About $120-$140.
Customer: What!@?
Ask any jeweler. Diamonds are extremely plentiful. They just have such a tight lock on them by debeers. That's why I can't wait till Apollo and Gemesis cultured diamonds really hit the mainstream. They are only selling them as jewels to recoup costs until they can sell them for semiconductor applications. Debeer's freaked out when they started showing up at jeweler conventions and built a $250,000 machine that could detect if a diamond is cultured. So I promise you that a jeweler/woman could never tell the difference.
The lattice structure of cultured diamonds, especially Apollo's, is almost perfect. The only thing they are still working on, the last time i checked, was making them clear instead of yellowish colored. But tinted diamonds are normally worth more anyway.
we all got gf's who say they don't want diamonds or jewelry... then you open that box with the sparkly and their eyes glaze over
or they see their friends/coworkers with the bling and start to think
what can you do
or they see their friends/coworkers with the bling and start to think
what can you do
ScrapSilicon
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Propose with a kitten instead. What chick could say no to that?
(Just be sure not to kill the kitten before you pop the question.)
Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
Propose with a kitten instead. What chick could say no to that?
(Just be sure not to kill the kitten before you pop the question.)
I would never harm a kitten, but my current gf is allergic. It'd have to be a puppy, but I'm scared of the damned things.
Originally posted by: MrNutz
Here's the jist on Diamond supply and demand...
Customer: Can you appraise this diamond for me?
Jeweler: Well isn't that a beaut. Lemme see.
...
Jeweler: The appraisal value of the diamond if $4,500. Here's what you want to look for in a diamond. Check clarity,..blah, blah, blah...
Customer: Thanks. So how much will you give me for it?
Jeweler: Oh, for that one... About $120-$140.
Customer: What!@?
Ask any jeweler. Diamonds are extremely plentiful. They just have such a tight lock on them by debeers. That's why I can't wait till Apollo and Gemesis cultured diamonds really hit the mainstream. They are only selling them as jewels to recoup costs until they can sell them for semiconductor applications. Debeer's freaked out when they started showing up at jeweler conventions and built a $250,000 machine that could detect if a diamond is cultured. So I promise you that a jeweler/woman could never tell the difference.
The lattice structure of cultured diamonds, especially Apollo's, is almost perfect. The only thing they are still working on, the last time i checked, was making them clear instead of yellowish colored. But tinted diamonds are normally worth more anyway.
Thats exactly the route im going when it's time to get the rock. Im gonna buy a huge one, and its going to be cultured.
I find the idea intriguing, but what if your soul get's trapped inside? I mean, how cool would it be to dissolve into the ether, partaking of the essences of all things, while you become more powerful than you can possibly imagine? By being burnt and scattered, in as soon as a few weeks you could be the glint on a hummingbird's wing, the glow of a firefly, and the top of a giant sequoia, all at the same frikkin time! But instead you're stuck inside a crumby rock for all eternity. Is a diamond forever? You better hope not.
Dang.. you beat me too it. You can always give her a diamond o' grandmother on a ring.
ScrapSilicon
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your soul leaves long before the cremation at the parlorOriginally posted by: Wallydraigle
I find the idea intriguing, but what if your soul get's trapped inside? I mean, how cool would it be to dissolve into the ether, partaking of the essences of all things, while you become more powerful than you can possibly imagine? By being burnt and scattered, in as soon as a few weeks you could be the glint on a hummingbird's wing, the glow of a firefly, and the top of a giant sequoia, all at the same frikkin time! But instead you're stuck inside a crumby rock for all eternity. Is a diamond forever? You better hope not.
JulesMaximus
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