A United North America...

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I think he'll agree with your first statement. Instead he would compare Canada to a Utopia.

Nowhere on earth is a utopia, as it is inhabited by man...we ruin everything, it's instinctive.
I think Canada is a great place to live and has a lot to offer its people, there are many issues I have with the current state of affairs, but all in all in a relative sense, I think Canada is closer to Utopia status than most of the rest of the world.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I think he'll agree with your first statement. Instead he would compare Canada to a Utopia.

Nowhere on earth is a utopia, as it is inhabited by man...we ruin everything, it's instinctive.
I think Canada is a great place to live and has a lot to offer its people, there are many issues I have with the current state of affairs, but all in all in a relative sense, I think Canada is closer to Utopia status than most of the rest of the world.

Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
If we were taken over by the US, I think there'd be a huge international uproar, of course it wouldn't do a thing. In principle I would look down on the US for such a shameful, unethical action going against all of america's founding principles.

Sure, there would be international uproar, but people will eventually forget about it. It'll probably end up better for the people, too. But I'm not calling for anything like that.

Why would you like to diverge from Canada, there are very valid reasons we have a tight relationship with each other.

I believe that the populations are going to continually diverge and would like to replace Canada with another country or group of countries.

I'm glad you aren't calling for that as you'd be fortunately wrong.
Would you like to address why Canadians would be better off under US rule, without pointing out unproven, unproffessional accusations of mental complexes.

How are our populations diverging?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
It wouldn't work for Canadian government. Compared to the United States, Canada is insignificant on almost every level. It would lose most of its power and just be taken over by the US. But then again, they could also get some actual voice at the global level. Imagine catapulting over being ranked along with Mongolia in global power and importance to the very top.

But I think that would definitely be better for the Canadian people.

If I was the US, a better possibility might be to just invade Canada and take it over in a day or two. The people will probably eventually appreciate the escape from mediocrity to eliteness. It would also avoid a lot of the whining and crying inferiority complex of Canadians and provide the world's largest cure of mental disease.

Canada's Global position is fine by me.

I think many people feel fine on the outside (as a fake facade), but really feel insecure regarding it. It's part of the inferiority complex.

I think in 5-10 years, the ex-Canadian people would be really happy.

Rise from mediocrity to greatness. Sounds like a nice deal to me.

bleh whatever. I think you're the one wih the complex, maybe not Inferiority, but equally as nasty.

I'm hurt.

As am I.

 

[CanOWorms]

No thanks! I don't think that Canada has anything meaningful to offer. How would this country even be united? Canada already has a lot of separatist tendencies. Plus, they also Queen worship. 😀

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
If we were taken over by the US, I think there'd be a huge international uproar, of course it wouldn't do a thing. In principle I would look down on the US for such a shameful, unethical action going against all of america's founding principles.

Sure, there would be international uproar, but people will eventually forget about it. It'll probably end up better for the people, too. But I'm not calling for anything like that.

Why would you like to diverge from Canada, there are very valid reasons we have a tight relationship with each other.

I believe that the populations are going to continually diverge and would like to replace Canada with another country or group of countries.

I'm glad you aren't calling for that as you'd be fortunately wrong.
Would you like to address why Canadians would be better off under US rule, without pointing out unproven, unproffessional accusations of mental complexes.

I've already given one reason - to actually be a part of significance instead or irrelevance.

How are our populations diverging?

The overall sentiment regarding the US in Canada is degrading and the inferiority complex keeps making it sickening. I see a complete breakdown of relations in the future due to this. Therefore I support shifting trade and activities to other countries. There is no specific reason why the US has to be a strong ally or partner with Canada, IMO.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

He has pride in his country...yes, but sandorski is a level headed guy who has lots of good opinions and information to add to these forums, more prominent examples of such hyperpatriotism can be seen in a lot of other american posters, it'd be nice if you were more critical of their comments, rather than a quality poster like sandorski.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
It wouldn't work for Canadian government. Compared to the United States, Canada is insignificant on almost every level. It would lose most of its power and just be taken over by the US. But then again, they could also get some actual voice at the global level. Imagine catapulting over being ranked along with Mongolia in global power and importance to the very top.

But I think that would definitely be better for the Canadian people.

If I was the US, a better possibility might be to just invade Canada and take it over in a day or two. The people will probably eventually appreciate the escape from mediocrity to eliteness. It would also avoid a lot of the whining and crying inferiority complex of Canadians and provide the world's largest cure of mental disease.

Canada's Global position is fine by me.

I think many people feel fine on the outside (as a fake facade), but really feel insecure regarding it. It's part of the inferiority complex.

I think in 5-10 years, the ex-Canadian people would be really happy.

Rise from mediocrity to greatness. Sounds like a nice deal to me.

bleh whatever. I think you're the one wih the complex, maybe not Inferiority, but equally as nasty.

I'm hurt.

As am I.

The thread didn't need a bump.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
I think he'll agree with your first statement. Instead he would compare Canada to a Utopia.

Nowhere on earth is a utopia, as it is inhabited by man...we ruin everything, it's instinctive.
I think Canada is a great place to live and has a lot to offer its people, there are many issues I have with the current state of affairs, but all in all in a relative sense, I think Canada is closer to Utopia status than most of the rest of the world.

Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

"Hyperpatriotism", what is that really?

Is that Canadians stating why they like being Canadians or is it just trolling from someone who doesn't care what Canadians think?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

He has pride in his country...yes, but sandorski is a level headed guy who has lots of good opinions and information to add to these forums, more prominent examples of such hyperpatriotism can be seen in a lot of other american posters, it'd be nice if you were more critical of their comments, rather than a quality poster like sandorski.

Excessive pride leads to hyperpatriotism. I don't particularly find him level headed - quite the opposite actually. The Canadian Mafia is not a pleasant bunch.

I've already said many times that many Americans are hyperpatriots and even referenced such an idea in this very thread. However, in this forum, there are many more Americans than Canadians. When an American displays his hyperpatriotism, there is a horde putting such a grotesque disease back into place. It's quite unfortunate that there aren't enough Canadians (as well as other nationalities) to effectively try to cure the other hyperpatriots.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
No thanks! I don't think that Canada has anything meaningful to offer. How would this country even be united? Canada already has a lot of separatist tendencies. Plus, they also Queen worship. 😀

We have tons of meaningful things to offer, you are our biggest trading partner, we have a gdp equal to 1/10th of the US's where most of our production is in the extraction of raw materials used in value added processing in the US.

I seriously think the US may have more to lose in the unification of the NA as american automotive manufacturers are making a killing up here due to lower operating costs, much better efficiencies and free trade agreements.

PS. I made a monarchy thread for you 😀

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: sandorski
"Hyperpatriotism", what is that really?

Is that Canadians stating why they like being Canadians or is it just trolling from someone who doesn't care what Canadians think?

Hyperpatriotism is exactly what it sounds like - an excessive amount of patriotism that leads to blindness when dealing with issues regarding such country.

It's not Canadians stating why they like Canada - it's a Canadian saying ridiculous things like Canada is a moral superpower, champion of human rights, or whatever other similar dreck.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

He has pride in his country...yes, but sandorski is a level headed guy who has lots of good opinions and information to add to these forums, more prominent examples of such hyperpatriotism can be seen in a lot of other american posters, it'd be nice if you were more critical of their comments, rather than a quality poster like sandorski.

Excessive pride leads to hyperpatriotism. I don't particularly find him level headed - quite the opposite actually. The Canadian Mafia is not a pleasant bunch.

I've already said many times that many Americans are hyperpatriots and even referenced such an idea in this very thread. However, in this forum, there are many more Americans than Canadians. When an American displays his hyperpatriotism, there is a horde putting such a grotesque disease back into place. It's quite unfortunate that there aren't enough Canadians (as well as other nationalities) to effectively try to cure the other hyperpatriots.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with pride when your country is indeed making great strides in being what all countries should aim for. Hyperpatriotism is usually generated by people thinking they are better than others, similar to what CanOWorms points out in Europe and some of their discrimination. With Canada, we are truly a multicultural country where many different people are integrated into one. Many wars and hate would be repressed if we could get these messages and ideas out to the world.

I don't think Canadians think they are better than others, I think they feel they can lead by example (but at the same time know their flaws).

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
There is absolutely nothing wrong with pride when your country is indeed making great strides in being what all countries should aim for. Hyperpatriotism is usually generated by people thinking they are better than others, similar to what CanOWorms points out in Europe and some of their discrimination. With Canada, we are truly a multicultural country where many different people are integrated into one. Many wars and hate would be repressed if we could get these messages and ideas out to the world.

I don't think Canadians think they are better than others, I think they feel they can lead by example (but at the same time know their flaws).

There is nothing wrong with 'nomal' pride. Hyperpatriotism is rotten to the very core. It is not only regulated to thinking you are better to someone, but also leaving you blind and ignorant.

Many countries are multicultural and I'm not even sure why you even brought that up as it has no relation to my post.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
There is absolutely nothing wrong with pride when your country is indeed making great strides in being what all countries should aim for. Hyperpatriotism is usually generated by people thinking they are better than others, similar to what CanOWorms points out in Europe and some of their discrimination. With Canada, we are truly a multicultural country where many different people are integrated into one. Many wars and hate would be repressed if we could get these messages and ideas out to the world.

I don't think Canadians think they are better than others, I think they feel they can lead by example (but at the same time know their flaws).

There is nothing wrong with 'nomal' pride. Hyperpatriotism is rotten to the very core. It is not only regulated to thinking you are better to someone, but also leaving you blind and ignorant.

Many countries are multicultural and I'm not even sure why you even brought that up as it has no relation to my post.

I'm trying to explain Canadian pride, and our multicultural, rights driven demographic is a good point. I'd like you to explain the differences between "'normal' pride" and "hyperpride", how it affects the world (not canadian psychie) and why you feel you are worthy of assigning this label

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose
Yeah, I think Canada is overall in a group of countries that would be closer to a Utopia than the rest of the world. I was just commenting on his hyperpatriotism. It's really sickening to see such comments come from anyone about any country.

He has pride in his country...yes, but sandorski is a level headed guy who has lots of good opinions and information to add to these forums, more prominent examples of such hyperpatriotism can be seen in a lot of other american posters, it'd be nice if you were more critical of their comments, rather than a quality poster like sandorski.

Thanks for the backup. Not to worry though, I can take it. 😉

 

[yllus]

Not a feasible idea for the next two or three decades, and that's mostly because politically and economically we're not yet that compatible.

The U.S. governmental system of states with a federal branch is far superior to the provincial/federal system of Canada when all other things are equal - we currently have what you Americans would refer to as the House of Representatives, but no Senate. That allows the larger population states to trample over the needs of the smaller provinces. Thing is, that is the best solution for Canada - our population is too tightly bunched around a couple of key areas to spread the power out evenly by geography. Can you imagine giving P.E.I. the same number of votes in a Senate as Ontario? It'd be bedlam! We have exactly two 'have' provinces, and the rest are 'have nots' that receive equalization payments to stay in the black. Let the leaders lead - it's been a successful strategy so far.

So we have two incompatible governmental systems that we don't dare mix. On the who's better issue, it really takes an inwards look at your own viewpoint before you get critical. Canada is a country one-tenth the size of the U.S. by population, and that's going to have major repurcussions in all areas of our relative power. Can't be as powerful in industry. Can't be as powerful in military. Can't be as powerful in competitive sporting events, even. Who would really expect us to without the average Canadian being the equal of ten foreigners?

 

[judasmachine]

well everyone knows my opinion...

we could just give it back to whom it really belongs.

[Midnight Oil]
The time has come
To say fair?s fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share
The time has come
A fact?s a fact
It belongs to them
Let?s give it back

How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep when our beds are burning
[/Midnight Oil]

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
well everyone knows my opinion...

we could just give it back to whom it really belongs.

[Midnight Oil]
The time has come
To say fair?s fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share
The time has come
A fact?s a fact
It belongs to them
Let?s give it back

How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep when our beds are burning
[/Midnight Oil]

😕

And no, I don't know your opinion.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: judasmachine
well everyone knows my opinion...

we could just give it back to whom it really belongs.

[Midnight Oil]
The time has come
To say fair?s fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share
The time has come
A fact?s a fact
It belongs to them
Let?s give it back

How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep when our beds are burning
[/Midnight Oil]

😕

And no, I don't know your opinion.

My opinion is that this is occupied country. I am NOT suggesting dismantling the nations and shipping them back to whence they came although I wouldn't complain either. Really just a lighthearted expression of an age old sentiment among my people.

 

[Stunt]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
Oh lighten up man

I am honestly confused by the post...😛

Edit. I get it now, after the explaination.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: Stunt

Originally posted by: judasmachine
Oh lighten up man

I am honestly confused by the post...😛

oh i thought you were just rolling your eyes at me, sorry. previous post is edited now.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Stunt
I'm trying to explain Canadian pride, and our multicultural, rights driven demographic is a good point. I'd like you to explain the differences between "'normal' pride" and "hyperpride", how it affects the world (not canadian psychie) and why you feel you are worthy of assigning this label

If you really think that Canada is a 'champion of human rights' and could be part of a' moral superpower' then there's no reason to even try to tell you the difference.

It's like saying 'The United States is a champion of freedom and democracy and should form a freedom council to help the world'. It's so laughable and yet some of you guys just eat it up if it references Canada.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: judasmachine
well everyone knows my opinion...

we could just give it back to whom it really belongs.

[Midnight Oil]
The time has come
To say fair?s fair
To pay the rent
To pay our share
The time has come
A fact?s a fact
It belongs to them
Let?s give it back

How can we dance when our earth is turning
How do we sleep when our beds are burning
[/Midnight Oil]

Good song, great band, but overall this is my home(though if I needed to I could always play my Race Card and be allowed to stay 😉 ).

BTW, I've always taken the message to that song differently, but now that I think of it, most likely incorrectly.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: RabidMongoose

Originally posted by: Stunt
I'm trying to explain Canadian pride, and our multicultural, rights driven demographic is a good point. I'd like you to explain the differences between "'normal' pride" and "hyperpride", how it affects the world (not canadian psychie) and why you feel you are worthy of assigning this label

If you really think that Canada is a 'champion of human rights' and could be part of a' moral superpower' then there's no reason to even try to tell you the difference.

It's like saying 'The United States is a champion of freedom and democracy and should form a freedom council to help the world'. It's so laughable and yet some of you guys just eat it up if it references Canada.

Most of the time the US *is* a champion of Freedom and Democracy. I don't know what your problem is, but you've got a chip on your shoulder, bigtime.