A Trump supporter gets elected to the Australian senate

urvile

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Senator Fraser Anning makes an epic maiden speech in which he calls for a return to the white Australia policy and also calls for a final solution to the immigration problem. There is something special about using the same phrasing that led to the systematic slaughter of millions of Jews.

Obviously he knows who he is preaching to. That having been said there is no guarantee under Australian law when it comes to freedom of speech. Unless what is said is said under parliamentary privilege and he is certainly entitled to his opinion right? Far right?

https://www.theguardian.com/austral...lls-for-final-solution-to-immigration-problem
 

urvile

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It's interesting though that his speech led to both sides of Australian politics condemning him with both liberals and center left politicians (labor party) coming out against him. In my opinion though he is entitled to have his own far right racist opinions. It wouldn't be much of a democracy otherwise.

I do think that the success of trump has led to this. In Australia he is always going to be on the fringe in the US though he might be seen as a thought leader?
 

mikeymikec

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I tried reading wikipedia's entry on how this guy was voted in and I still don't understand what happened. I know next to nothing about Australia's political system. Was it a peoples' vote or a politicians' vote?
 

KMFJD

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H8'n Queensland, wtf is it about that place that breeds idiots like that and these guys

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Skyclad1uhm1

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-45191315

He quit the One Nation Party last year to join Katter's Australian Party, whose sole other parliamentary representative is leader Bob Katter.

Mr Katter said he supported Mr Anning's speech "1000%" but suggested that his colleague did not know much about the Holocaust.

"He's smart, but he hasn't read all the history books," Mr Katter told reporters.

Yeah, because unless you read the rare few history books that do mention it you can't possibly know what 'final solution' was used for...
 

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LNP voters are mindless and apathetic morons who don't have a clue about the policies of the parties they're voting for. Similar to the unhinged conservatards in the US, lies and appearing "strong" > feasible and realistic policies.

Pauline 'Pants Down' Hanson, for example, says she's for the average hardworking Aussie, yet votes inline with the LNP when it comes to policies that could affect said people. See: company business tax cuts. How does voting for taxcuts to multibillion $ businesses and banks (who have - as we have seen from this handicapped royal commission the LNP desperately tried to stop - been stealing money from their customers in very creative ways) help the average working Aussie? It doesn't, yet to ON and (lower quintile income) LNP voters it doesn't matter that they'll be hit hard with tax increases, or that their real wages are decreasing or that they'll be the ones having to cope with our deteriorating public services and infrastructure because of the misuse/straight out laundering of taxpayers money to shell corporations (see: $444m sent to a foundation filled with coal backers and only 9 employees).

They will never be able to connect the dots between the policies passed by their elected government and the effect it has on a micro level. It'll always be the "dirty unions"/"Shifty Bill"/"Labor's fault" no matter how many times these unsubstantiated LNP smear campaigns are proven wrong.
 
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Amused

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What's wrong with banning sharia law which calls for the death penalty for apostasy and free speech?

Would you be up to banning the private following of all religious law?

Idiots like you back the Christian religious right in the US yet think Sharia Law is a threat.

Meanwhile, Muslims follow their religion just like any other religion does while idiots like you have the vapors over it while backing people who would turn the US into Handmaid's Tale.
 
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dainthomas

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John Oliver did a story on that Katter guy. He makes Dump look like an actual stable genius.
 

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Question is, is what he is saying representing the majority of his constituents? If those who voted him in fully supports his message, then he should be free to bring that message forth, even of most normal people are reviled and disgusted by it. That is the power of democracy, representatives represent the people, good or bad. However, if he is just lone rangering it, and his people did not vote him in just so he can spot that nonsense, then get him the fuck out.
 

mikeymikec

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What's wrong with banning sharia law which calls for the death penalty for apostasy and free speech?

It's interesting how you ignored all the calls for actually banning a religion and fixated on the bit based on pure imagination.
 
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urvile

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I tried reading wikipedia's entry on how this guy was voted in and I still don't understand what happened. I know next to nothing about Australia's political system. Was it a peoples' vote or a politicians' vote?

Aus politics can be extremely convoluted. There were several senators who got booted due to having duel citizenship. This caused a byelection in which the booted senators can stand as well as their challengers. Senator Anning got voted in based on preferences another quirk of our system. Another part of our system is whoever is leader of the currently elected party is Prime Minister. We are currently having leadership spills where another federal member of the house of representatives from the same party challenges the current PM*. Good times.

This is essentially occurring because Malcolm Turnbull is a moderate Liberal and supports the Paris climate agreement. He also advocated the successful vote for Gay marriage. However there are powerful and far more conservative member's within his government who support the coal lobby and Christianity. So they seek to supplant him.

*this is what ever party holds the most seats in the house of representatives. However the governor general who is the queens representative can dissolve the houses of parliament which leads to a general election. This has happened once.

I wish they would fuck the queen (or king) off but we had a referendum about 25 years ago to do just that and it didn't happen.
 
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Aus politics can be extremely convoluted. There were several senators who got booted due to having duel citizenship. This caused a byelection in which the booted senators can stand as well as their challengers. Senator Anning got voted in based on preferences another quirk of our system. Another part of our system is whoever is leader of the currently elected party is Prime Minister. We are currently having leadership spills where another federal member of the house of representatives from the same party challenges the current PM*. Good times.

This is essentially occurring because Malcolm Turnbull is a moderate Liberal and supports the Paris climate agreement. He also advocated the successful vote for Gay marriage. However there are powerful and far more conservative member's within his government who support the coal lobby and Christianity. So they seek to supplant him.

*this is what ever party holds the most seats in the house of representatives. However the governor general who is the queens representative can dissolve the houses of parliament which leads to a general election. This has happened once.

I wish they would fuck the queen (or king) off but we had a referendum about 25 years ago to do just that and it didn't happen.
Today was one of the days I wish the Queen exercised the power to dissolve our parliament.

The last thing we need is a greater shift to the right that Darth Dutton would bring. Fucking weirdos they breed up in Queensland (sorry I know you aren't all like that). Hopefully he is ruled ineligible by the High Court. The only positive I can see would be an early election to boot out these idiots.