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A troubling death

Nightfall

Golden Member
I will start at the beginning.

When I was in high school, I met someone named Ben. He was a Junior and we got along the day we met each other. He encouraged me to go out for the Cross Country team, which I did. He talked me into doing other sports while I was in high school. He looked out for me since high school was rough on me. I wasn't the most popular kid or the most liked, but he was always there for me and vice versa.

His senior year, I will never forget he came up to me the day before senior skip day and said I should skip with him and we will go to Cedar Point. We packed up the car that night and I spent the night as his place. We took off the next morning with a bunch of other seniors and had a blast at Cedar Point. I remember this day like it was yesterday.

After he graduated, we still took the time to hang out. However, he was going into the Navy Seal program and was going to be gone a couple years. We said our goodbyes not knowing if we would see each other again.

We sent a few letters back and forth, and then he was back 24 months later. His arm was broke in Seal training but he still completed the training and was a Seal for a while. He was honorably discharged after his 2 year agreement was over for medical reasons. It was still good to see him again after so long.

I was graduated by then and dating someone I knew in junior college. He started going back to school and met Melody who became his wife a year later. Their wedding decision came very fast, no ceremony. I found out they were married the day I told him I was going to transfer to a 4 year university to complete my degree. We had the most fun summer that year before I left.

When I got up to the university, it was back in 1993. I sent letters back and forth to him since he didn't have email at the time. Then, the letters stopped. I tried calling him a few times and couldn't find him. His parents moved to Arizona and knew he had left for EMT training but pretty much severed ties to them.

Time passes....

In 2000, I was with my brother in a hobby shop and I see Ben again. We talked for an hour about what happened to him, where he went, what he did, and so on. He had 2 kids, worked as an EMT, and was enjoying life. We exchanged phone numbers and email addresses as he was living 3 hours away from me.

We got a chance to see each other again a few times, but we talked mostly over email until about 2 months ago. We both have homes, jobs, families, and so on so I understood that he didn't have the time to hang out like we used to. He seemed to be doing well almost all the time I talked to exchanged emails with him. He talked about his kids and how funny they were. We would play Xbox Live together which we both agreed was a blast since we couldn't get together much anymore. Heck, I bought an Xbox for the explicit reason of playing Halo and Halo 2 with him. Even though I suck at controlling a FPS with a controller. I like the mouse/keyboard too much.

Two months ago, my emails were not being replied to which is strange. Usually he gets back with me a day or two later. I called and left a few messages and never got one return phone call. Then I find out yesterday he died. I was floored. I called his family who heard the news from his wife. Apparently, he was going through some psychological problems. He was hearing voices and it was causing him great agony. As long as he was on his medication, he was fine. Apparently, he went off his meds, left his wife, and was living with a coworker. He committed suicide in the end.

After I got the news, I was just shocked. Here was a guy that I knew since high school. I never suspected that he had those kinds of problems. He always seemed to have a level head on his shoulders. What would cause him to reach a point like this? Does this kind of thing manifest itself quickly or did he have it for years and did a good job hiding it?

Its a depressing end to a very happy friendship. Last night I couldn't sleep as I thought about all the good times we had together. My wife said I was talking in my sleep about it and kept waking her up. Today, I find myself feeling sad. Not only for the fact that he passed away, but for the fact that I never pressed him about coming over more often to see him. Being there for him so to speak. He was always there for me through my high school days which were rough. I never really returned the favor.

If there is one thing I have learned from this, it is to cherish the time you have on this planet. Really take the time to spend with your friends and family. Take nothing for granted.

Cliffs:
Met Ben in high school, became good friends.
Stuck together when he left for a few years
Still was good friends when he got back
Went to college and drifted apart again
Met each other 8 years ago and renewed our friendship
Stopped talking to me 2 months ago and committed suicide yesterday.
He was battling mental problems for a while
Questioning myself on what I could have done and why I didn't see it coming.
 
wow. sorry to hear that.
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there was nothing you could do for him really. you didn't know, and he didn't tell you. if he had asked for help then maybe you could have helped, but otherwise there was absolutely nothing you could do for him.
 
The last thing in the world you should be doing is to some how think you're responsible for his actions, he was his own person and you are your own.

I'm sorry to hear that things ended like that however.
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Originally posted by: rasczak
wow. sorry to hear that.
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there was nothing you could do for him really. you didn't know, and he didn't tell you. if he had asked for help then maybe you could have helped, but otherwise there was absolutely nothing you could do for him.

+1

Sidenote: this kind of creeps me out because my best friend growing up I met in elementary school and his name is Ben. He saved my life (literally) and then his family moved around 8th grade and we lost touch after that. We'd still catch each other once every 6 months or so via email, he was/is an EMT as well. I haven't heard from him in about a year now :\
 
From what you've said, and from what I know about mental disorder it was pretty unusual (but not unheard of) for him to commit suicide. Generally older or younger people get to that point not 30 yo parents. Suicide is usually a result of major depression which can happen at any time and be extremely difficult to deal with.

I do want you to know you're not at fault, and unless you were a constant companion in his life theres nothing you could have done. sounds like you were a good friend to him, and it's unfortunate he ended up on the path he did. Actions like suicide are the result of a delusional state, in that sense people of a stable mental disposition will never be able to understand them.
 
Sorry for your loss. It's good you had a great friend for as long as you did, and horrible that you had to lose that friendship this way. Man I can't imagine losing my best friend like that.

edit: also, Baked is a dick.
 
I swear this read like an internet chain mail. Sad story. Great read though.. like one of those chicken soup stories.
 
Very sorry to read about that. Hopefully, we won't have a bunch of know-it-alls chime in how the poor guy just needed exercise, sun, and to eat right and he could've just gotten over it. 🙁
 
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Sorry for your loss. It's good you had a great friend for as long as you did, and horrible that you had to lose that friendship this way. Man I can't imagine losing my best friend like that.

edit: also, Baked is a dick.

 
We had this kid when I was in high school that committed suicide. It was pretty shocking to a lot of people and his friends. I did not know him but knew of him. He was a honor student and everything. Left a suicide note on his pc. Think he shot himself. Really sad but I don't think anyone should blame themselves when someone commits suicide. It is there decision a lone. You can try to help but sometimes no matter what you do does not change the outcome. It could be because of the way society looks at them. Though if they care what other people think then they need to stop. There will always be people like that. If you can't live with it then you must learn to somehow. Not as difficult as it seems.

Though I feel a lot of people commit suicide because of society in general. Not sure what the suicide rate is everywhere but I wonder if it is the highest here ? I would not be surprised. It really is a sad thing to have people committing suicide because of the way society looks at you. Beyond awful. Though I am not putting all the blame on that because you have to learn to deal with it as well. I do feel society in general is warped. It would be really interesting to be able to ask all the people who committed suicide why they did it. I think a lot of the time we would be more surprised than we think. Thats the question though we will never have answered.
 
I agree pcslookout.

I am just about over the "What could I have done" phase and more into the "Why did he do it" phase. I guess I really didn't know him when it all came down to it. To really know a person, you have to spend a lot of time with them. I suppose this behavior could have manifested itself in the 8 years I was talking to him over the phone and with email. He probably did a good job hiding it too which surprises me.
 
Originally posted by: Nightfall
I agree pcslookout.

I am just about over the "What could I have done" phase and more into the "Why did he do it" phase. I guess I really didn't know him when it all came down to it. To really know a person, you have to spend a lot of time with them. I suppose this behavior could have manifested itself in the 8 years I was talking to him over the phone and with email. He probably did a good job hiding it too which surprises me.

You never truly know someone not even your spouse. Though I would think everyone has thought of suicide at least once. Maybe not seriously but I bet everyone has though sometimes it just out of stress or being tired of the same routine.
 
Originally posted by: Feldenak
Originally posted by: paulxcook
Sorry for your loss. It's good you had a great friend for as long as you did, and horrible that you had to lose that friendship this way. Man I can't imagine losing my best friend like that.

edit: also, Baked is a dick.

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I'm sorry for your loss. 🙁 You're going to feel lousy for awhile. You'll probably go from feeling really, really, heart-is-breaking sad, to feeling numb, to feeling like it was all just a bad dream and that he's not really dead, to feeling guilty about something you feel you should have done or should have done differently. You'll probably switch amongst those feelings hour by hour or minute by minute for the first few days, then day by day for weeks. Don't feel guilty about anything that was out of your control. It sounds like he might've been schizophrenic.

I know all of this from recent experience. One of my best friends died unexpectedly last December (heart attack in his sleep) and my cousin, who I lived next door to as a kid, died in February (accidental asphixiation.) Both were 39. I still cry occasionally when I think about them. There's a hole in my life where my best friend used to be and I don't have someone (besides my immediate family) to just talk to every day (I chat with my other friends less often than I did with him.) It's harder to get through an unexpected death of someone who is young than it is when the person is old and in poor health (three of my elderly relatives have died in the past 12 months, giving me a total of 5 deaths of family and friends.)
 
I'm sorry you lost a good friend.
You WERE there for him, in your own way. I'm sure he considered you a good friend too.
Sometimes nothing at all can be done for certain mental illnesses. They can be physiological in nature, and no amount of treatment can help. That in itself could be so depressing.
 
It really doesn't sound like there was anything you could have done, so try not to put blame on yourself for this. Sad story, though.
 
I had a friend, Donnie, in high school that eventually killed himself. it was my second year of college, we had lost touch, but i knew he was in the army. i hear about it from a mutual friend about 2 months after the fact. we spent a TON of time hanging out in late junior high, early high school and once i started working at 16 we just grew apart a bit. I remember going to his house to play basketball with the guys...or going to parties...or just hanging out having fun. always had a smile, always cracking a joke.

Well, fast forward to a couple weeks ago. My niece got confirmed and one of the kids in her confirmation class was my buddy's little brother. I saw the name pop up on the screen and knew it was him before i even saw him. He looks just like Donnie did...i couldn't believe it. I saw his dad, whom i never really knew that well, and i don't know...it really messed me up for a few days. It's like you forget about someone for like 10 years...and all of a sudden BAM something reminds you and it makes you really really think.

i don't know why i posted that...but Nightfall, i'm sorry for your loss. I wondered if there had been something i could have done as well. Only once did he appear that he might have needed help, and that was showing up to school our senior year with a few scrapes on his face. I asked what happened and he said "i got into a fight with my room". Our mutual friend told me that the girl he had loved since high school finally told him she didn't want anything else to do with him, and that was the spark that caused him to kill himself. I often wonder if i had tried to help that day in 12th grade or pressed the issue more, would he be alive today.
 
I contacted Ben's family today and talked to them at length about how Ben influenced my life. We talked about the good times and how much he meant to me and vice versa. I really didn't get the impression it was a two way street, but it was according to his parents.

His parents wanted me to track down one of his old coaches who he held in the highest regard. I did so and contacted him today. I set up a time for him to call Ben's parents and have some closure there as well.

Now it is time for me to have some closure.
 
You lost a friend but I can't imagine what those two poor kids are going thru. I have two little ones also and can't imagine putting them thru anything like that.
 
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