Originally posted by: cwjerome
Originally posted by: ericlp
" 10 years ago 0% made it. Maybe 10 years in the future 50% or more might make it.
But we all know the slogan... it's not a baby, its a choice. or is it the other way around? "
One can hope...
As for hate and cold / Natzi / kKK posts...
Etc...etc... Let's face it. Most of us 90% of us were born normal births, wouldn't you want the majority of child birth research and development to go to the majority of the kids growing up today?
I don't see the logic in giving most of it to births that have a very low success rate. I see it as impossible to please everyone. I think the normal births have a hard enough time as it is and more attention is needed to make sure they are secure in getting the best treatment... I don't see that as heartless and cold my view I suppose... I'd rather see the funds going towards the babies that have the highest success rates. I guess I have flawed logic. Go figure. I suppose if you actually worked in a hospital and saw what REALLY goes on... You'd see the light.
There a lot of people on life support right now that have less then 5% chance of making it. Most are taken off life support because most people know it's a waste of time and a lost cause. When you start talking of 1% it's pretty pathetic to even talk about it in my opinion.
I don't get your logic. You say "wouldn't you want the majority of child birth research and development to go to the majority of the kids growing up today?" Uh, isn't it more important to devote more resources to those that actually need them to survive? That's like saying cancer patients take up a lot of resources... so shouldn't those resources be directed towards the majority of healthy people who don't have cancer?
Such a heartless, Orwellian Utilitarianism.
And where is this 1% statistic coming from? This says "At 24 weeks, the survival rate is approximately 50 percent; at 25 weeks, the rate is approximately 70 percent. Past 26 weeks, the survival rate is often greater than 90 percent."
Here's another one:
"Overall, about 75% of 24 week babies given intensive care here survive. As noted in the last section, there are reasons that an individual baby's chances may differ from the overall figure. Depending on those same factors, we might guess an individual baby's chances for survival to be anywhere from 50% to 90%."
Another site:
"A reasonably easy to remember guide is that the survival rate is about 40% for all babies born at 24 weeks' gestation, 50% for those born at 25 weeks, 60% for those born at 26 weeks, 70% for those born at 27 weeks, and 80% for those born at 28 weeks."
And I encourage anyone to read
THIS... to understand the trauma parents often go through.
"There are many reasons that a pregnancy can end with premature delivery: preterm labor, incompetent cervix, premature rupture of membranes, placenta previa, toxemia are among the most common. The greatest majority of preterm births are not related to something the mother did or did not do.
It is rarely the mother's fault.
An increasing number of premature babies survive and thrive today. The statistics show that 20% of 24 weekers, 50% of 25 weekers, and between 70-80% of 26 weekers survive their early birth. The rates are much higher for babies born above 30 weeks, hovering around 95%."
We should always strive to save a human life that has a chance, whether it's a baby born at 26 weeks, 12 year-old in a car accident, or a 65 year old with a heart attack. Always. And if it is not considered to have a chance, those parents or spouses need to make that decision, not some faceless bureaucratic prick in some office somewhere.
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