A Time Machine and iPhone 6S+

Rubycon

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Let's say you are a time traveler. You already have the latest and greatest iPhone 6S+ today! ;)

Let's say you wanted to go back to impress someone. How far could you go back before its radio would no longer work on the older cellular networks? After all if you could use the phone part it would be more impressive. Wifi would be dead before ~2001 or so.

Of course if you had it jam packed with videos and such and headed back to the 40s it would cause quite a stir. :biggrin:
 

SKORPI0

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2006, well before the first iPhone was released. Show Steve Jobs the features/tech it has by Sept 2015. :awe:
 

Gunslinger08

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I think GSM and CDMA networks launched in the early 90s, so not that far back.

I think they would be more impressed with the screen and battery tech.

How far back would you have to go before you couldn't find home delivery of 120v/60hz power to charge it (or whatever else the standard charger accepts)?

It's an interesting thing to think about and reminds me of an article I read about the singularity. Technology is increasing at an insane rate right now. It took us thousands of years of civilization to get indoor plumbing as a standard in the 1st world. Some of our grandparents didn't have it into their early adult lives. Now we've gone from barely getting electricity into homes to incredibly mobile computers in most peoples pockets in 100 years.
 
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John Connor

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I'd go to the 1500's with a pictures and video of helicopters and show Leonardo Da Vinci. LOL
 

lxskllr

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I'd go back 1,000 years, and be wizard. I could probably rig a charger to keep the magic going. They'd treat me like a god.
 

Rubycon

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I think GSM and CDMA networks launched in the early 90s, so not that far back.

I think they would be more impressed with the screen and battery tech.

How far back would you have to go before you couldn't find home delivery of 120v/60hz power to charge it (or whatever else the standard charger accepts)?

Charging would be easy as the block can run a variety of systems - 50~60Hz sine wave 84~260V. Straight DC within those voltages may also work. And 5VDC direct is pretty simple. You could go back millions of years ago and still have sunlight that would work with photovoltaic cells. ;)

I'd go back 1,000 years, and be wizard. I could probably rig a charger to keep the magic going. They'd treat me like a god.

Or far worse if they saw some video today!

I'd go to the 1500's with a pictures and video of helicopters and show Leonardo Da Vinci. LOL

Well if you're going to kill everyone might as well involve a helicopter! :p
 
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Ketchup

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You could be like the guy in the Star Trek TNG episode "A Matter of Time." Find the right time to beat Jobs to the punch (but the network tech is available, obviously), sell it to Jobs, and then come back home and retire, or find something else to beat the creator to. Just don't get cocky and end up stuck in the wrong time.
 

Eug

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Jimmy Kimmel did the reverse.

He had their guy go out with the new iPhone "6s" and wowed passers by with this technology, despite the fact it was actually an original 2G iPhone.
 

mmntech

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GSM launched in parts of Europe in 1991, while CDMA was first introduced in 1995. Not that you could do much other than make phone calls. If you showed 10 year old me some of the more technologically advanced mobile games, I'd lose my mind. But I'd probably still think Candy Crush was stupid.

How far back would you have to go before you couldn't find home delivery of 120v/60hz power to charge it (or whatever else the standard charger accepts)?

Europe standardized 220v/50Hz by 1900. I believe North America had settled on 110v/60Hz around the same time. The two prong unpolarized plug on the chargers seem to date back to about 1915. So you could take your phone back in time 100 years and still be able to charge it.

If you took a modern smartphone that far back, people would think it was witchcraft. Just showing them a video would blow their minds. Yes they had moving pictures back then, but colour AND sound?!
 

John Connor

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I'd go back 1,000 years, and be wizard. I could probably rig a charger to keep the magic going. They'd treat me like a god.


I've always thought about going back in time with just one machine gun and a bunch of ammo. I could wipe out how lines of infantry! LOL

Or I thought about an Apache helicopter. Can you imagine if we had a simple Apache heli. on the D-Day invasion? Those pill boxes would be gone!
 

John Connor

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If you took a modern smartphone that far back, people would think it was witchcraft.


LOL It be awesome to take one to 1692 Salem Mass. and show the Puritans. I'd then fire an AR-15 in the air and say, what you gonna do about it? :colbert:
 

John Connor

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Damn! I don't own a smartphone, butt seeing the compassion how the hell do people fit that shit in their pocket? It amazes me at all the people I see with one. Even seen a girl who must have been in her 20's have one hanging out of her back pocket. Can't leave home without it.
 

ViRGE

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Let's say you wanted to go back to impress someone. How far could you go back before its radio would no longer work on the older cellular networks?
Unfortunately you couldn't go back any farther than 2012. That's when the Nano SIM was introduced, which is what the iPhone has used (since 2012, in fact).

Going back farther than that, your radio would still work until the early 90s when 2G GSM was introduced, but you wouldn't be able to make any calls since the not-yet-in-existence identification number of your future SIM wouldn't be recognized by the networks of the time. And of course you wouldn't be able to get a SIM appropriate for carriers of the time. Even cutting it down wouldn't work since the Nano SIM is thinner than the original SIM, so you wouldn't be able to stuff a larger SIM in there.

Oh, and for any of you thinking of going back to the early 20th century, take a line conditioner. Power delivery of the time was not very stable. We didn't have microelectronics, and the machines/lights of the era were not very sensitive to fluctuations.

Extra PSA for time travelers: your money isn't good in the past. Take things that are cheap now but can be pawned for decent money in the past. Used video game consoles, certain other older electronics, things like that.
 
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disappoint

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Let's say you are a time traveler.

Wait, stop right there, who says I'm not? I've been a time traveler for a long time now! I've always traveled 1s per second into the future. I don't see how you can travel back in time though. It just doesn't work like that. You can only vary how fast you move forward through time but there's no going backward as far as I know.

The question I have is, we are moving through space pretty quickly sitting here on Earth because of Earth's movement through space. How much older would we be if Earth were standing still in space? Hmmm...
 

Kaido

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Rubycon is asking a hypothetical question, but I'm guessing she's figured out how to make time travel work & is looking for fun ideas to troll people with when she goes into the past :D
 

blankslate

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Rubycon is asking a hypothetical question, but I'm guessing she's figured out how to make time travel work & is looking for fun ideas to troll people with when she goes into the past :D

There's no reason she can't get rich and troll people; come on now....


^_^


*e2a*

I would go back a year or so and say to Lew that bend thing is a fluke try to bend my phone... then laugh when he fails.

the backplate of the 6c is over twice as strong as the one for last years model thanks to new material and slight changes in design.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSMUGGu7l-4
^differences in backplates of 6 and 6s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChUsy8gWwvo
^measuring the force required to bend the back plates of the 6 and 6s.

It's nice to know that Apple greatly increased the strength of the body of the new 6s

Sort of like a non-admission admission of an issue.


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JimKiler

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Unfortunately you couldn't go back any farther than 2012. That's when the Nano SIM was introduced, which is what the iPhone has used (since 2012, in fact).

Going back farther than that, your radio would still work until the early 90s when 2G GSM was introduced, but you wouldn't be able to make any calls since the not-yet-in-existence identification number of your future SIM wouldn't be recognized by the networks of the time. And of course you wouldn't be able to get a SIM appropriate for carriers of the time. Even cutting it down wouldn't work since the Nano SIM is thinner than the original SIM, so you wouldn't be able to stuff a larger SIM in there.

Oh, and for any of you thinking of going back to the early 20th century, take a line conditioner. Power delivery of the time was not very stable. We didn't have microelectronics, and the machines/lights of the era were not very sensitive to fluctuations.

Extra PSA for time travelers: your money isn't good in the past. Take things that are cheap now but can be pawned for decent money in the past. Used video game consoles, certain other older electronics, things like that.

I remember in the early 2000's my wife's analog cell phone was no longer going to work with AT&T's (or was it Cingular) digital network. So would a digital phone work on the analog network in the 1990's?