A thoughtless experiment

dawp

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http://reason.com/brickbat/2012/01/06/a-thoughtless-experiment
Officials in Gilbert, Arizona, have paid $37,500 to settle a lawsuit brought by the family of Kelly Shea. Shea was a student at Gilbert High School in 2008, where a police officer pulled her out of class and accused her of stealing an iPod. The officer then searched her backpack without permission. When Shea began to cry, the officer finally told her it was all just a part of an experiment designed by one of the teachers to see if boys and girls react differently to false accusations.

I wonder who gave the go ahead for this without any though of the possible consequences. very short sighted.
 

dawp

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makes ya kind of wonder how many other kids were subjected to this 'experiment' that we don't know about.
 

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They do this stuff all the time. google "students force to deficate in bucket" or similar phrases.
 

waggy

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WTF? what kind of idiot does that to a child? what kind of teacher things its a good idea.

teh police officer is a idiot too for doing it.
 

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How many people would they need to falsely accuse in order to get proper statistics? What a mess.
 

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Are humans so unsocialized thaty they now cry over a false accusation? A high school student even? Sounds like we need to do more of this and sooner. The searching that bag is illegal and against the consitution (not sure if its worth $37,000), but otherwise I'm all for what happened.

Our soceity has turned into pansies. I remember growing up in the late 1970's. Things were outright cruel back then compared to today, but, I'm sure glad I lived through some of it. I remember people saying "Sticks and stones" back then and actually made fun of you (and were encouraged to do so) for crying over words.
 
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Are humans so unsocialized thaty they now cry over a false accusation? A high school student even? Sounds like we need to do more of this and sooner. The searching that bag is illegal and against the consitution (not sure if its worth $37,000), but otherwise I'm all for what happened.

Our soceity has turned into pansies. I remember growing up in the late 1970's. Things were outright cruel back then compared to today, but, I'm sure glad I lived through some of it. I remember people saying "Sticks and stones" back then and actually made fun of you (and were encouraged to do so) for crying over words.

Sticks and stones baby, high five. People who cry and get "offended" by words are fucking pussies and lesser humans. They really are, they are far below us in terms of evolution.
 

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Sticks and stones baby, high five. People who cry and get "offended" by words are fucking pussies and lesser humans. They really are, they are far below us in terms of evolution.

Another byproduct of liberalism. Everyone's a star / winner / hero / champ. No one can criticize you. Everyone owes you. Nothing is your fault. You're entitled to what someone else has worked for. Any male that shows a nanogram of testosterone is a beast and must be immasculated.

No, not all on the left believe this way. But much of the above is pushed on us by the influential on the left.

No, I'm not advocating that we should be cruel to one another, but our children today need to grow a pair tbh.
 

rudder

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designed by one of the teachers to see if boys and girls react differently to false accusations

well no shit... everyone acts different. Some get scared and cry and some will tell the police officer to kiss their ass.
 

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Another byproduct of liberalism. Everyone's a star / winner / hero / champ. No one can criticize you. Everyone owes you. Nothing is your fault. You're entitled to what someone else has worked for. Any male that shows a nanogram of testosterone is a beast and must be immasculated.

No, not all on the left believe this way. But much of the above is pushed on us by the influential on the left.

No, I'm not advocating that we should be cruel to one another, but our children today need to grow a pair tbh.

If someone uses a police officer to do something like this to my child I would eat them alive. Is that manly enough? This is a person of power who can haul you off to jail and make your life hell, not the school janitor who thought he might have seen something. If people don't see the difference they aren't manly, they are stupid.
 

FerrelGeek

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If someone uses a police officer to do something like this to my child I would eat them alive. Is that manly enough? This is a person of power who can haul you off to jail and make your life hell, not the school janitor who thought he might have seen something. If people don't see the difference they aren't manly, they are stupid.

lol! Yes, it's manly enough. To the subject at hand, yes it was going overboard having a cop as part of this. Totally agree, and I would do the same as you. I was responding to other comments, not the op. My bad.
 

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lol! Yes, it's manly enough. To the subject at hand, yes it was going overboard having a cop as part of this. Totally agree, and I would do the same as you. I was responding to other comments, not the op. My bad.

No prob. The abuse of authority is something I've experienced first hand and wouldn't tolerate being done to my child. Growing up in the inner city I understand why kids run when the police chase them even if they did nothing.
 

BoberFett

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Are humans so unsocialized thaty they now cry over a false accusation? A high school student even? Sounds like we need to do more of this and sooner. The searching that bag is illegal and against the consitution (not sure if its worth $37,000), but otherwise I'm all for what happened.

Given the fact that authority figures have the ability to, and quite frequently seem to enjoy, ruin the life of innocent people I'd say she was understandably upset.

If a cop pulled you over in the middle of the day, had you walk a straight line, say the alphabet backwards, and told you to get in the back of the squad car and hope you have a good lawyer even though you were stone sober, do you think you'd just sit and take it? I bet you'd be crying harder than this girl.
 

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Given the fact that authority figures have the ability to, and quite frequently seem to enjoy, ruin the life of innocent people I'd say she was understandably upset.

If a cop pulled you over in the middle of the day, had you walk a straight line, say the alphabet backwards, and told you to get in the back of the squad car and hope you have a good lawyer even though you were stone sober, do you think you'd just sit and take it? I bet you'd be crying harder than this girl.

Of course I'd just sit and take it. What option would I have? But then again, I do have testicles, and police aren't that big and scary to me. If they were, I'd be scared to leave the house (even though Minnesota isn't so bad in this regard, fairly tame cops here.) Sorry, but I'm not going to live my life in fear of everything, as that is not a life at all. Thats for the chumps.

My most recent encounter was for arson (falsely accused, of course) because my "vehicle matched one in the area." And went through all the typical nonsense like you described above, changed for Arson of course. He didn't mention "lawyer" but he did say "the detectives would be contacting me." Of course they didn't. I think the feeling was closer to "choke slam" the punk ass cop (he looked to be about 22 years old and smug) rather than tears.