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Manhattan On a Tank of Gas: Escape Hybrid Takes on Nightmarish Traffic Jams with Clean Efficiency

NEW YORK -- "It's a commuter's nightmare." That's the way Mary Ann Wright describes the extreme driving test that begins April 5 for the all-new Ford Escape Hybrid. Starting in midtown Manhattan during the morning rush-hour, the Escape will be driven up, down and across the island over some of America's most congested streets and avenues. Wright won't stop the test until the Escape Hybrid's gas tank is completely dry. That may take up to 36 hours of non-stop driving.
"We've designed the 'Manhattan on a Tank of Gas' drive event to see how many miles an Escape Hybrid can be driven on one tank of gas in some of the worst conditions for fuel efficiency most drivers would ever face," said Wright, chief program engineer for the Ford Escape Hybrid.

Escape Hybrid is the world's cleanest and most fuel-efficient sport utility. Available at the end of this summer, it combines the fuel economy and emissions benefits of a "full" hybrid with the go-anywhere capability, toughness and spaciousness of the Ford Escape, America's favorite small SUV. Escape Hybrid is the first hybrid electric vehicle that can comfortably accommodate five adults and their gear. "No-compromise utility separates Escape Hybrid from other 'green' vehicles," Wright said. "Escape Hybrid can provide an economical solution to a problem commuters face every day -- bumper-to-bumper gridlock that can bleed a normal car's fuel tank dry," she said. "At the same time, Ford Escape Hybrid is a practical and livable environmental solution to help address air quality problems in our cities, as well as the global warming issue."

Making the epic Manhattan drive particularly impressive is the fact that the Escape Hybrid's gas tank holds just 15 gallons of fuel. "Other vehicles might start out with more fuel but they will go through it a lot more quickly," Wright said.


Results of the 'Manhattan on a Tank of Gas' event will be announced April 7 at the New York International Auto Show.
An SUV that Excels in the City
The 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid is expected to be rated at between 35-40 mpg on the EPA city cycle -- an improvement of at least 75 percent over the EPA city fuel economy rating of 20 mpg for the conventional V-6-powered Ford Escape, the best-selling small SUV in America. Escape Hybrid's fuel-efficient four-cylinder engine combines with an electric drive system to deliver acceleration performance similar to that of the V-6 Escape.

While a conventionally powered vehicle burns fuel and creates emissions while idling at a red light or bogged down in stopped traffic, the Escape Hybrid's engine shuts down at rest to conserve fuel. When the light turns green or traffic moves forward, Escape Hybrid's 70-kilowatt traction motor generator can launch the vehicle on clean electric power. When needed, the generator can smoothly start the gasoline engine in less than 400 milliseconds, without the increased emissions produced in starting up a conventional engine. Escape Hybrid also conserves energy in stop-and-go driving by reclaiming energy during braking to charge its hybrid storage battery to be used later during acceleration.

"Near Zero" Tailpipe Emissions
Escape Hybrid is an extremely clean vehicle to operate, producing 97 percent less hydrocarbon and oxides of nitrogen emissions than vehicles that meet today's nationwide Tier I emissions standard. That's clean enough to qualify the 2005 Escape Hybrid for the stringent Advanced Technology Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle (AT-PZEV) standards.

Escape Hybrid achieves the AT-PZEV standards by combining an efficient powertrain with an exhaust catalyst system that is very effective at lowering smog-forming emissions.

Indeed, the Ford Escape Hybrid is as environmentally friendly as a vehicle that runs solely on electric power. That's because a battery-electric vehicle needs to be plugged in to be recharged, and that electricity must be generated by a power plant, creating some smog-forming emissions. The Escape Hybrid, on the other hand, never needs to be plugged in. Its battery is continually recharged by an ingenious system that reclaims energy when the brakes are applied.

The Escape Hybrid also produces as little as half the amount of carbon dioxide (CO2) -- a harmless gas in terms of ground-level air quality but a primary "greenhouse gas" when it drifts into the Earth's upper atmosphere. An accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is widely believed to be producing a global warming effect. CO2 and water vapor are produced in the clean combustion of any type of carbon-based fuel, so the only effective way to reduce a vehicle's CO2 emissions is to reduce the amount of fuel consumed. Fuel-efficient hybrid-electric vehicles can substantially reduce CO2 emissions.

Ford Motor Company and other automakers are working on long-term research projects to someday make practical hydrogen-powered vehicles that will not produce any greenhouse emissions. In addition to the Escape Hybrid, PZEV Focus and Focus Diesel being produced today, Ford has developed a Focus hydrogen internal combustion engine (H2ICE), a hydrogen hybrid research vehicle (H2RV) and a Focus Fuel Cell Vehicle (FCV) that is operating in demonstration fleets in the U.S. and Canada. Ford is the only automaker with such a full-range of production vehicles and research efforts intended to move society to a hydrogen-powered future.

Be sure to check back on April 7 for the fuel efficiency results of the 'Manhattan on a Tank of Gas' event.
 

Tom

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The regular Escape is a very nice smaller SUV, one of the best in class.
 

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imagine how less OPEC dependant we would be if everybody drove a hybrid. no more war for oil.

oil could actually be cheap again, despite the two largest US energy giants merging 4 years ago. (sure a monopoly will pass the savings on to us...so let's make that monopoly bigger)
 

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
imagine how less OPEC dependant we would be if everybody drove a hybrid. no more war for oil.

oil could actually be cheap again, despite the two largest US energy giants merging 4 years ago. (sure a monopoly will pass the savings on to us...so let's make that monopoly bigger)

yeah, because every corner i come to has 3 exxon mobile stations at it...

oh wait



they're making a diesel focus?
 

Spencer278

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i would pass it is still an oversized useless SUV, that gets better gas milage but would never pay for the price difference.
 

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
i would pass it is still an oversized useless SUV, that gets better gas milage but would never pay for the price difference.

they're not that big...
 

dirtboy

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Originally posted by: charrison
Dave has sad ford will not make these.

That's right! He did say Ford, GM & Chrysler will all be out of business by the end of the year.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Wouldn't he need to get a job first?

:confused:

:beer::D

Very Cool, it's a start.

Yes, would have to get a job first and in fact checked out a job at a nearby convenience store today that has a high turnover. I stopped in to get a gallon of milk and loaf of bread and they had a Help Wanted sign in the window. I thought minimum wage was $6.25 a hour, wrong, it's $5.15 and that's all they are paying. The milk and bread came to $6.95, would have to work two hours or more after taxes just to be able to afford milk and bread. Don't think I'll be getting that Ford Escape anytime soon.


 

Strk

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Wouldn't he need to get a job first?

:confused:

:beer::D

Very Cool, it's a start.

Yes, would have to get a job first and in fact checked out a job at a nearby convenience store today that has a high turnover. I stopped in to get a gallon of milk and loaf of bread and they had a Help Wanted sign in the window. I thought minimum wage was $6.25 a hour, wrong, it's $5.15 and that's all they are paying. The milk and bread came to $6.95, would have to work two hours or more after taxes just to be able to afford milk and bread. Don't think I'll be getting that Ford Escape anytime soon.


$6.75 here

Anyways, while hybrids are a good thing to see, it will be better when GM gets a feasible fuel cell car working.(I know they have prototypes up and running already)

Also, it would be nice to see the US embrace diesel like the EU has. I remember reading we are going to get some new restrictions soon, which should help us towards what they have over in the EU.(low-sulfer fuel, more efficient and clean engines) Or, we could even say "screw you OPEC!" and use biodiesel and still get 45+mpg :)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: gsaldivar
Wouldn't he need to get a job first?

:confused:

:beer::D

Very Cool, it's a start.

Yes, would have to get a job first and in fact checked out a job at a nearby convenience store today that has a high turnover. I stopped in to get a gallon of milk and loaf of bread and they had a Help Wanted sign in the window. I thought minimum wage was $6.25 a hour, wrong, it's $5.15 and that's all they are paying. The milk and bread came to $6.95, would have to work two hours or more after taxes just to be able to afford milk and bread. Don't think I'll be getting that Ford Escape anytime soon.


$6.75 here

Anyways, while hybrids are a good thing to see, it will be better when GM gets a feasible fuel cell car working.(I know they have prototypes up and running already)

Also, it would be nice to see the US embrace diesel like the EU has. I remember reading we are going to get some new restrictions soon, which should help us towards what they have over in the EU.(low-sulfer fuel, more efficient and clean engines) Or, we could even say "screw you OPEC!" and use biodiesel and still get 45+mpg :)

The Sand Thugs and Auto Execs they own would never allow the Conversion process that is needed to retrofit every filling Station with Hydrogen so we won't see the Oil "Alternative" in our lifetime.

They are content running hybrids because they still use the existing infrastructure, just less of it but their profits remain the same because they jacked prices up like Europe. Every bit of it is all "Pre-Planned" to a T.

 

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Originally posted by: Spencer278
i would pass it is still an oversized useless SUV, that gets better gas milage but would never pay for the price difference.

I will pay it (partly because I get a good deal on any Ford vehicle I buy). Since people want SUVs, I can be a greater agent for change by showing them how what they want can be better.

People who buy SUVs are not going to be convinced to switch to an Insight.

 

dmcowen674

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The News reported this morning that you can't even get a hybrid now if you wanted one since the backlog is now up to 8 months or longer for most of the Hybrids. They also showed many SUV drivers parking their SUV's in favor of getting little Gas Economizers like Saturns, Neons and Civics.
 

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The regular Escape is a very nice smaller SUV, one of the best in class.
Not to be an arse, but . . .

Honda CR-V, Toyota RAV-4, Honda Element, Subaru Forester, Jeep Liberty, Nissan Xterra, Hyundai Santa Fe, Isuzu Rodeo, Kia Sorento, and Jeep Wrangler are all more reliable vehicles than the Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute. Although due to recent improvements in reliability (the Escape is now up to average), Consumer Reports does recommend the Escape.
 

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674

The Sand Thugs and Auto Execs they own would never allow the Conversion process that is needed to retrofit every filling Station with Hydrogen so we won't see the Oil "Alternative" in our lifetime.

They are content running hybrids because they still use the existing infrastructure, just less of it but their profits remain the same because they jacked prices up like Europe. Every bit of it is all "Pre-Planned" to a T.

what the fvck. jacked prices up like europe? auto execs owned by "sand thugs"? really, what the fvck.
 

jhu

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Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
imagine how less OPEC dependant we would be if everybody drove a hybrid. no more war for oil.

oil could actually be cheap again, despite the two largest US energy giants merging 4 years ago. (sure a monopoly will pass the savings on to us...so let's make that monopoly bigger)

i agree, except that it would require an increase in gas prices in order for more people to buy hybrid vehicles.
 

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I'm holding out for the Toyota Highlander hybrid, which they say will be out in 2005. 270hp, 0-60 in under 8, three rows of seating (it's the same size as a regular highlander, and it's supposed to get an average of just under 30mpg in mixed driving.

Once we finish paying our most recently purchased car off, I've got my sights set on that one,

cumhail
 

PingSpike

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Originally posted by: Strk
Still not buying Ford ;)

The Lexus RX400h is sexy though.

Indeed.

Hybrids are a good start, but they just aren't cost feasible yet. Gas prices would have to spike pretty damn high for anyone to get excited about them enough to have a serious market. Frankly, I just think they have more parts that will want to break on them, and I certainly don't need a Ford with more parts to break. I'm still more excited about hydrogen fuel cells.
 

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NEW YORK -- After being driven non-stop for 37 hours as part of an extreme driving test throughout Manhattan, taking on traffic congestion, morning and evening rush hours, the all-new 2005 Ford Escape Hybrid traveled an amazing 576 miles on a single tank of gas during this epic drive. The Escape Hybrid, the world?s first hybrid sport utility vehicle, averaged more than 38 miles per gallon.

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