A Soy Burger maybe packing more than you expected

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Lifer
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Myth: A soy burger is healthier than a beef burger
Here's the problem: Soy, in all its forms, contains phytoestrogens--that is, plant estrogens. And while having some of the female hormone in our bodies is okay, and even normal, having high amounts of the plant version isn't. In fact, Australian researchers found that men who consumed a soy-rich diet had significantly lower testosterone levels than beef eaters. And as for red meat's artery-clogging reputation, a study published in the Journal of the American College of Nutrition showed that eating lean beef can help to lower LDL cholesterol levels while increasing HDL levels.

Reality check: At only 10 percent fat, ground round is the leanest hamburger meat at the market. It also has the potential to taste the worst, since less fat generally means less flavor. Stick with ground chuck, which, with 15 percent fat, still qualifies as lean. And make sure you pick a package with little "juice" pooled in the Styrofoam tray. "It comes from water in the protein molecules called 'free water,' which is released over time," says Mike De La Zerda, Ph.D., beef-quality manager for the Texas Beef Council. "The more free water that has drained into the package, the less juicy your burgers will be."


http://netscape.menshealth.com/cda/article/0,6916,s1-3-0-0-603,00.html


I got a kick out of lowered testosterone levels in men. Ha
 

Jzero

Lifer
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This supports my theory that too much of anything is bad. Moderation is key.
 

damiano

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I agree
I don't know why people are vegetarians

I don't know why people drink 5 diet cokes a day and wonder why they are fat

I wonder a lot of things ... oh well
 

damiano

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Originally posted by: Jzero
This supports my theory that too much of anything is bad. Moderation is key.

that's why I feel bad after 3 bottles of wine

and I thought it was good for the heart :p
 

notfred

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In fact, Australian researchers found that men who consumed a soy-rich diet had significantly lower testosterone levels than beef eaters

Is that bad? Does more testosterone make you more healthy? Your post implies so, but I see no evidence of that.
 

glugglug

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correlation is not causality.
It is more than likely IMO that the men consuming soy instead of beef were lacking testosterone to begin with, and this may have influenced their meal choice rather than the other way around.

Also, pretty much all beef in this country has estrogen injected into the cattle because it makes them bulk up. When you consume lots of this estrogen by frequently eating the meat, it causes man-boobs, no joke.
 

cjchaps

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Anyone who reads Men's Health knows that it is a very opinionated magazine. They also report studies of organizations which shouldn't be doing studies. For instance, they had something along the lines of:
"The NDC reports that americans are not consuming enough calcium, and should drink more milk.".

No -sh*t!! Of cource the NDC(national dairy council - they actually abbreviated in the article) will want people to drink more milk.

Bottom line: DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU READ!
 

LordUnum

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Originally posted by: glugglug
correlation is not causality.
It is more than likely IMO that the men consuming soy instead of beef were lacking testosterone to begin with, and this may have influenced their meal choice rather than the other way around.

Also, pretty much all beef in this country has estrogen injected into the cattle because it makes them bulk up. When you consume lots of this estrogen by frequently eating the meat, it causes man-boobs, no joke.
No, stop making sense! ;) :p

I :heart: Boca Burgers after getting a taste of one my mom was having due to her strict high-HDL-induced diet. She's slim as can be like my dad and I and can't even partake in the lean meats I enjoy anymore. Good thing fruits & veggies have always been her favorite food & snack. :)
 

Amused

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This explains why all the vegans I know are raging pussies.

:D