Blah blah blah....whatever, I don't see stealing bandwidth as wrong and never will no matter what you say. A neutral feedback is completely pointless for something as pointless as copying a damn picture. A feedback is by nature TRANSACTION related. Stealing bandwidth has nothing to do with the transaction. If he handled the transaction professionally and refunded your money or never took your money in the first place, then there is absolutely no reason to leave him a neutral as nothing negative happened to you in the first place. Especially if you made the bid with the intention to see what would happen or just to f*ck with the guy. Either no feedback or positive...anything else is just bein a jackass.
"If he handled the transaction professionally and refunded your money or never took your money in the first place, then there is absolutely no reason to leave him a neutral as nothing negative happened to you in the first place. "
- yet there's no reason to leave a positive either.
You know there is a difference between swiping a picture and actually linking to it directly on your site, right? You must think it would be OK for your neighbor to run a power cord from your house over to his to run a few appliances off your electric, too
alkemyst
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I think you are thinking I was talking to you...I was refering to the two others claiming 'they know ebay'.
I don't know what a mailbox has to do with a newspaper machine though....
I agree with direct linking being terrible, copying and rehosting not much better. Auction setups are hard to develop and nice looking ones get cut and pasted. I have had to warn a few ebayers that claimed they didn't steal from me, but I knew they did because all the link within the html resolved back to my site, esp the CSS stuff and supporting images for the pages.
You can't argue the fact that 1 auction is hardly any cost either, hardly any cost is still a cost.
When I was a web programmer commercially we had a lot of theft going on, most of the time we chalked it up to something not worth persuing plus a lot were 'student' and 'family' picture type sites (non-profit). Once however it caused us to mischarge our client (a large web provider/programming firm was linking our code/images as theirs). We warned them, changed our URL's and they still did it again ...we ended up taking off the client's bandwidth restriction/surcharges for excess and just charged them there normal rate. That is the problem with stealing a link.
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haven't heard from him. I've emailed him once after the auction, and once yesterday, asking for the total shipping costs of both of the projectors... no reply.
Originally posted by: CZroe
Yeah, we probably should.
You are such a party-pooper. Stealing bandwidth is just plain wrong. He needs to learn.
looks like he is using Amazon's pic of the item for his current auctions. I don't think they will be changing it, though, lol.
Brad
Brad
Originally posted by: Yo_Ma-Ma
You know there is a difference between swiping a picture and actually linking to it directly on your site, right? You must think it would be OK for your neighbor to run a power cord from your house over to his to run a few appliances off your electric, too
well said.
erikistired
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i pay for my bandwidth. it costs me money. so for me bandwidth = money, and therefore stealing bandwidth = stealing money. i have a problem with that. if someone broke into my house at night to steal money from me i'd probably shoot them (in self defense of course, considering i have a young daughter who i would protect at all costs, not to mention myself and my wife).
He has 2 current auctions for the projector now. The second is still using your link.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41842&item=2780530053
erikistired
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Should I send him an email and ask if I can have the 2 projectors sent to different addresses if I pay double the shipping b/c I'd like to send the free one to someone for a gift? Or should I not ruin the fun yet?
Or should I not ruin the fun yet?
CZroe
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It wasn't LukFilm's pic either. It's a public image. Otherwise, you'd have to say something about LukFilm's behavior too. Plus, the auction description was not copied word for word. It was, in fact, quite different but I didn't compare much. I trust LukFilms that at least some part of the description was copied, but it was different enough that I'd have to look again to confirm. A picture posted on the Internet is public. If you don't want someone downloading it, take it off the 'net or at the very least you better say so.
Since when did your attitude become universal? Look, once you put an image on the Internet, it's THERE. Unless you took certain steps, it's UNIVERSALLY available and you understood that when putting it up. The Internet is designed this way, and you should expect it. There is NOTHING illegal about linking to any page or part of the Internet so your argument about it being "stealing" is based purely on your peers giving you this opinion, or you encountered one of these "steps" (An image saying "This person is a bandwidth theif" or something). It was put on a server to be downloaded and no restrictions were made. The simple fact is, it's public. If you don't want anyone downloading it, you take it off the Internet. If you don't want anyone downloading it outside of the context it was posted in, you better take these steps or AT LEAST state that they are not allowed to in the auction. Oh, I'd better never link to a URL again... THAT'S STEALING BANDWIDTH BECAUSE SOMEONE SAID IT WAS! Watch me "steal" Alientank's bandwidth right now!! Actually, that's saving minendo's bandwidth and storage space, by not downloading it and uploading a second copy to his site for no reason. I've used that pic a few times already. I didn't create it, it was just appropriate and on-topic. I didn't "steal" jack.
Please step back and reevaluate your bias. Remember how the Internet was before all the territorial apes arrived?
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